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Retailer who sold to Holmes getting backlash
SF Chronicle ^ | Tuesday, July 24, 2012 | JIM SALTER

Posted on 07/24/2012 5:20:27 PM PDT by absalom01

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TacticalGear.com filled an order received on July 2 from Holmes, who allegedly opened fire inside an Aurora, Colo., theater on Friday, killing 12 people. Holmes paid $306.79 for an urban assault vest, two magazine pouches and a tactical knife.

Chief Executive Officer Chad Weinman said despite its name, the urban assault vest is not bulletproof, but is simply a vest made for carrying accessories. ...

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aurorashooting; banglist; batmanshooting; holmes
Two things: the kooks have decided to hound the internet based company that sold this psycho the vest he wore because...well, I guess it looks scary. The meme that's been developing is that while the guns may be bad enough, what's even worse is that people can buy body armor, even though, as this article points out he wasn't actually wearing body armor. It was just a nylon vest that "looked tactical". What's next, demonizing Royal Robbins 5.11 pants?
1 posted on 07/24/2012 5:20:30 PM PDT by absalom01
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To: absalom01

Meanwhile, the unemployed John Holmes was funded by a grant from the US Gov’t.


2 posted on 07/24/2012 5:25:07 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: absalom01

How the heck are they supposed to know? Misinformation by the MSM all around is causing more harm to innocent people than to Suspect A.


3 posted on 07/24/2012 5:26:30 PM PDT by madison10
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To: madison10

Exactly. The media continue to cover themselves in honor /sarc.


4 posted on 07/24/2012 5:28:55 PM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You can never do more, you should never wish to do less.)
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To: absalom01

http://tacticalgear.com/blackhawk-urban-assault-vest


5 posted on 07/24/2012 5:29:55 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: absalom01

Despite the harassment, they got lots of free publicity. They people who rant at them were not going to buy stuff from them anyway.


6 posted on 07/24/2012 5:31:43 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can't be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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To: absalom01

A scary vest and an ugly gun AND a deadly tactical knife.

SHUDDER!


7 posted on 07/24/2012 5:31:50 PM PDT by OSHA (One despises and wants to destroy the United States, the other is a dead terrorist.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

True, as Obama has said, he did not get the money to buy the weapons and gear by himself, Obama and the federal government paid him to buy them.


8 posted on 07/24/2012 5:36:23 PM PDT by Sea Parrot (Don't ever think that the reason I am peaceful is because I forgot how to be violent)
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To: absalom01

That reminds me...I need to put in another order at Sportsman’s Guide.


9 posted on 07/24/2012 5:37:40 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Repeal The 17th
I notice that the vest hasn't been reviewed yet. I wonder if Holmes will write a review. He doesn't have anything else to do now.
10 posted on 07/24/2012 3:59:32 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney ( New book: RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY. Buy from Amazon.)
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To: OSHA

Scary?

I’m thinking of ~all~ the camera equipment I could stuff in those pockets.

Sure beats lugging around 4 or 5 different bags...LOL


11 posted on 07/24/2012 3:59:38 PM PDT by Salamander (I laugh to myself at the men and the ladies who never conceived of us billion dollar babies.)
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To: absalom01
He didn't buy that equipment for himself, the Department of Health and Human Services bought that equipment for him.
12 posted on 07/24/2012 4:02:09 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: Sea Parrot

lolz... well said.


13 posted on 07/24/2012 4:02:52 PM PDT by TheDon (The Democrat Party, the party of the KKK (tm))
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To: absalom01

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http://tacticalgear.com/news/colorado-shooting/
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A Statement Regarding The Colorado Shooting
News July 23 2012 — By Staff
A Statement Regarding The Colorado Shooting
A post from our CEO regarding the tragic shooting at an Aurora, Colorado movie theater.

On July 2, 2012 TacticalGear.com received an order from James Holmes, the alleged shooter in the Colorado theater massacre. His order included an urban assault vest, two magazine pouches and a tactical knife spending a total of $306.79. Mr. Holmes elected to pay an additional $15.63 for UPS 2nd Day Air to expedite his order. We processed this order as any other, and Mr. Holmes signed for the associated package on July 5 at 2:21 p.m. local time.

In the wake of the tragedy, we have done our best to cooperate with the media and law enforcement agencies by passing on any relevant information. We have since been inundated with countless phone calls, emails and interview requests. Much of this communication has been quite hostile and threatening in nature. We have been falsely accused of selling Mr. Holmes firearms and ammunition over the Internet illegally without conducting the mandated background checks. Some members of our customer relations team have been brought to tears by people insisting that we have “blood on our hands.”

In an effort to combat this falsehood, myself and our Chief Operating Officer conducted a series of interviews in an attempt to clear up any misconceptions. We reiterated that TacticalGear.com primarily serves the law enforcement community and that we are proud to supply these heroes with the tools they need to keep our communities safe. During the course of these interviews, we were repeatedly questioned about what steps we were taking to prevent the general public from acquiring tactical gear in the future. In response to this line of questioning, statements were made that some have perceived as anti-gun and anti-2nd amendment.

We want to set the record straight and publically state that we fully support the 2nd amendment. The spirit of what we were trying to communicate was that tactical clothing and equipment should not be put in the same category as firearms and ammunition. Firearms and ammunition are subject to considerable regulation, and the notion that tactical gear should be as well is outrageous. Unfortunately, in some instances our choice of words were poor and misguided. For this, we accept full responsibility and sincerely apologize to anyone that took offense to these comments.

I am very proud of TacticalGear.com. It is a great company with a great staff. Each day we wake up thinking about how we can better serve our customers the gear they need when they need it. We work tirelessly to achieve these goals, and we are passionate about what we do. Many of us are avid gun owners and enthusiasts. We frequently visit the local shooting range and keep firearms in the office. We wholeheartedly support the freedom Americans enjoy to legally purchase guns and ammunition. I personally believe that if some members of the audience had concealed carry weapons at hand that night perhaps less blood would have been shed. No amount of gun control is going to prevent a sociopath hell-bent on terrorism from hurting a large group of people.

Our thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families of this horrific event. If you have any questions or comments about this issue please direct them to us via email at pr@tacticalgear.com.

-Chad Weinman
CEO, TacticalGear.com


14 posted on 07/24/2012 4:06:22 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: absalom01

They should be a lot more concerned about the guns that were allowed to walk to mexico where hundreds were killed.


15 posted on 07/24/2012 4:19:10 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: PapaBear3625

Yep. The media act like some big mouth lazy kooks on the internet = backlash.
lol
Whatever.


16 posted on 07/24/2012 4:23:13 PM PDT by snarkytart (http://www.freerepubli224%2C1)
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To: absalom01

What about the people who sold him dinner, lunch or breakfast that day, giving him the energy to pull the trigger? Or the place that sold him gasoline? Or the person that sold him the automobile he arrived in? Or his first grade teacher who taught him to read so he could put together those bombs? What about his shoe store? He probably wouldn’t have done this barefooted!


17 posted on 07/24/2012 4:29:42 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: absalom01

This proves that businesspeople are not only greedy and evil, they deliberately withhold their secret mind-reading powers just to make an extra buck.


18 posted on 07/24/2012 4:30:52 PM PDT by Mygirlsmom (Whaddaya mean I didn't build this tagline????)
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To: snarkytart
Over the years, I've had occasion to have personal knowledge about a few different things that have wound up being covered by the media. In every single case, at least one material error has been included (often going uncorrected) in every story. In this case, it's worse. I have to wonder if they've gotten even one thing right about this horrible mess.
19 posted on 07/24/2012 4:42:58 PM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You can never do more, you should never wish to do less.)
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To: absalom01
Gee. . . guess people out there are waking up to the terrible threat of MALL NINJAS !!!

First, scary black guns, and now SCARY BLACK CLOTHES !! Horror of horrors, when will it end ???

(sarcasm intended)

20 posted on 07/24/2012 4:49:03 PM PDT by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border. I **DARE** you to cross it. . . .)
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To: absalom01

To liberals, appearances are more important than reality. When a wannabe puts on an imitation bullet proof vest or an imitation Presidential Seal, they are willing to pretend that both are real.

21 posted on 07/24/2012 4:53:11 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Sea Parrot
True, as Obama has said, he did not get the money to buy the weapons and gear by himself, Obama and the federal government paid him to buy them.

An exhaustive audit of Holmes' financial sources/resources should be a high priority.

22 posted on 07/24/2012 4:59:16 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: Steely Tom
He didn't buy that equipment for himself, the Department of Health and Human Services bought that equipment for him.

That may explain it.

23 posted on 07/24/2012 5:01:03 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: absalom01

Let’s go after the companies that sell hoodies!


24 posted on 07/24/2012 5:01:08 PM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: absalom01

I expect we’ll see the feminists, gays, occutards, and liberals of all professions writing about how they’ll never buy anything from Tacticalgear.com ever again!


25 posted on 07/24/2012 5:03:16 PM PDT by Rebelbase (The most transparent administration ever is clear as mud.)
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To: absalom01

We’ve had 50+ murders in Milwaukee this year. Many by gun. Many affecting minorities. Many by people with previous records who are free due to “second chance” and early release bleeding hearts.

When do the flags go to half mast for the thousands murdered due to failed Democrat policies in American voter inner city ghettos?


26 posted on 07/24/2012 5:19:03 PM PDT by sbMKE
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To: Salamander; All

Photo vests have been around for years.
Made by Domke. See here: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/369323-REG/Domke_733_001_Photogs_Vest_Small_Black_.html
Looks pretty tactical to me!


27 posted on 07/24/2012 5:38:16 PM PDT by Afisra (It's easier to gun proof a child than child proof a gun!)
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To: absalom01
"Chief Executive Officer Chad Weinman said despite its name, the urban assault vest is not bulletproof, but is simply a vest made for carrying accessories. ..."

Good info there, but emphasis should also be on the fact that no body armor is bulletproof.


28 posted on 07/24/2012 5:41:23 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: familyop
Well, that's true, of course. But what I found so outrageous was that the media didn't confound, say, a level II balistic vest with "bulletproof". They confounded a light nylon shell with a ballistic vest, period.

And then used that as a hook to somehow demonize an internet vendor for selling a product that he never even sold

Every time I think they've hit bottom, they break out the shovels and start digging.

29 posted on 07/24/2012 7:22:00 PM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You can never do more, you should never wish to do less.)
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To: absalom01

Yes. That’s a good point.


30 posted on 07/24/2012 7:51:06 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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