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Virginia’s Goode could be Romney’s undoing
Human Events ^ | 7/23/2012 | John Gizzi

Posted on 07/24/2012 6:28:39 PM PDT by xzins

While many on the right fear that Constitution Party presidential candidate Virgil Goode might just draw enough votes in his native Virginia to tip the Old Dominion’s 14 electoral votes from Mitt Romney to Barack Obama, the former six-term congressman made it clear he doesn’t care.

Goode, in fact, feels that “in many ways, for conservatives, it might be better to have Obama as president next year rather than Romney.”

The 65-year-old Goode spoke to Human Events last week as he and his supporters were in the process of gathering the 10,000 signatures they need to submit before the Aug. 24 deadline to qualify for Virginia’s November ballot. Founded by Conservative Caucus chairman and venerable conservative leader Howard Phillips, the Constitution Party is so far on the ballot in 17 states. Right now, Goode told us, the party is making attempts to secure ballot positions in other key states such as Arkansas, Alabama, Iowa, Kentucky, and Pennsylvania — the home state of the Constitution Party’s vice presidential nominee Jim Clymer.

But what has clearly set off alarm bells among conservatives lately is the scenario of Goode making the ballot in Virginia — where he won the 5th District U.S. House seat as a Democrat, Independent, and Republican from 1996 until his narrow defeat in 2008. Polls show the state, which Obama narrowly carried over John McCain in 2008, seesawing between the president and his Republican opponent in 2012. A just-completed Quinnipiac Poll showed Obama and Romney tied among likely Virginia voters, with each getting 44 percent — down from Obama’s 47 to 42 percent edge in the same poll in June.

Of particular concern to Republicans is Goode’s strength in his home turf: the Danville-Charlottesville area that he represented in Congress and previously as state senator. Four years after he lost the closest House race, the former congressman remains popular in his former turf. In addition, his hard-line stance on immigration, strong emphasis on limited government and focus on following the U.S. Constitution seems more likely to woo Virginians who would otherwise vote for Romney than those inclined to Obama.

“If I’m on the ballot in Virginia, I could cost Obama a lot of votes — possibly as much as or even more than Romney,” Goode told us, repeating a line that many third party contenders have taken over the years. “There are a lot of life-long Democrats (in the Fifth District) who say they’ll hold their nose and vote for Obama. But as the fellow in the filling station up the road told me, ‘I’m a Democrat, but if you’re on the ballot, Virgil, I’m voting for you.’”

We recalled how much as it was widely interpreted that Obama’s victory by a plurality over John McCain in North Carolina in 2008 was due to votes for Libertarian Bob Barr. We then pointed out to Goode that, regardless of his interpretation, pundits and political analysts would almost certainly interpret a narrow Obama win in Virginia to a strong Goode showing and asked how he would feel then.

“In many ways, for conservatives, it might be better to have Obama as president next year rather than Romney,” replied Goode, explaining that “it would be tougher to get through Congress some bad things under Obama than it would under Romney.”

“Take one for the team? Not me brother!”

Recalling how the president announced earlier this year his order not to pursue deportation of illegal aliens who complete high school or join the military, Goode noted that “Romney wouldn’t come out against the short-term amnesty. He was just going with the wind. If Obama were president, Republicans in Congress would oppose him on things like this on principle and almost unanimously. But if Romney were president, he would probably get it through (Congress).

“Remember how (Republican presidential candidate Rick) Santorum explained his vote for the No Child Left Behind (federal education program under George W. Bush) by saying: ‘Sometimes you’ve got take one for the team.’ That’s the argument Romney would use with Republicans to get them to pass things they normally wouldn’t oppose.”

As a Democrat in Congress in the 1990s, Goode pointed out that he voted a strong right-to-life line despite the fact that the Democratic leadership was in the other camp on the abortion issue. As a Republican from 2002-08, he said, “I was urged to ‘take one for the team’ and vote for CAFTA (a free trade agreement). I didn’t think it was good for the country and I opposed it. Sometimes you have to show some backbone.”

As a Democrat, Goode in the House scored unusually high ratings of 84 percent and 83 pe cent with the American Conservative Union; as an independent and later a Republican, his ratings went higher and his lifetime ACU average in 96 percent.

In carrying the banner of the Constitution Party, Virgil Goode is again not “taking one for the team.” Whether he qualifies for the Virginia ballot Aug. 24 and how well he does in his home state will surely be watched there, as well as by Republicans nationwide.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2012swingstates; constitutionparty; elections; formerdemocrat; formerrino; goode; goode2012; obama2012; romney; takeoneforteam; thirdparty; thitdparty; va2012; virgilgoode
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To: xzins
Goode, in fact, feels that “in many ways, for conservatives, it might be better to have Obama as president next year rather than Romney.”

That's an idiotic and irresponsible statement. Obama has been a disaster for conservative policies on so many levels, it will decades to clean up what Obama wrought, and I believe in fact that we will never be able to undo some of Obama's damage from 4 years. 8 years?!?! forget it!

21 posted on 07/24/2012 6:44:19 PM PDT by WOSG (REPEAL AND REPLACE OBAMA. He stole AmericaÂ’s promise!)
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To: Colofornian

“...Obama & Romney are political twins...”

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To say “no they are not” would be a massive understatement.
That was all I had to read. You better pray that Romney wins, regardless of what you think of his politics. It is that simple and that obvious. God, where do they come from?


22 posted on 07/24/2012 6:44:29 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: muir_redwoods

Read post #1

It’s in your candidate’s court. He’s going to recant gay couples, gay adoption, RomneyCare with its abortion funding, and amnesty OR Romney is toast.

Conservatives, especially social conservatives, will turn elsewhere.


23 posted on 07/24/2012 6:45:45 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

So do I put the Goode sign in the front yard or just get an Obama one ‘cuz Goode can only assure an Obama victory? At least with the Obama sign, after Goode assures an Obama reelection, the powers that be that spied on my house using Google Earth or some sort of drone can give me something out of the Obama stash!


24 posted on 07/24/2012 6:46:09 PM PDT by MacMattico
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Goode......Perot 2.0

He thinks 4 more years of Obama will be a good thing for the GOP???

Hey Goode, will it be a good thing for the country???? SHEEESH!!!!

Hint: 3-4 SC judges.


25 posted on 07/24/2012 6:46:20 PM PDT by ak267 (The Law Of the Sea Treaty...LOST...must be defeated...CALL YOUR SENATORS!!!)
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To: EagleUSA

see #23


26 posted on 07/24/2012 6:46:47 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

Excuse me,
seems like a lot of turds in the punchbowl here.

ABO!
Don’t screw it up!


27 posted on 07/24/2012 6:47:03 PM PDT by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: Carry_Okie
My vote for Romney in California would be virtually meaningless.

Exactly...which IS the case in about 14 other states as well...

It's basically around 15 "for sure" Obama states; around a dozen toss-up states; and then 23 "for sure" Romney states.

That means that true conservative FREEPERs in all but those dozen toss-up states have ANY reason to vote for a pro-abort liberal socialist healthcare pioneer like Romney...their vote would either be "meaningless" (Obama states); or won't hurt Romney (those 23+ conservative states).

28 posted on 07/24/2012 6:47:40 PM PDT by Colofornian (Saying Mitt would keep past political promises is like prophesying that Gumby won't bend anymore)
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To: xzins; All
Goode and anyone planning to cast a vote for him are co-conspirators with Obama.

I hope Republicans have learned something from the 6 years of having controlled the elected branches. They hadn't done that in generations and 'success' and some corruption (Tom DeLay) went to their heads.

No, having saying we have nothing to fear from four more years of Obama is preposterous and Goode damned well knows it.

29 posted on 07/24/2012 6:47:57 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Pontius Pilate 'voters' are arrogant, delusional, lilly-livered collaborators.)
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To: xzins

I spent many years on the local, state and national level supporting these third party candidates, sending them money, making phone calls and handing out yard signs. If you are happy to get 8-10% of the vote and want to insure that a known Socialist/Communist stays in office, do it. I will never be part of this crap again.


30 posted on 07/24/2012 6:49:18 PM PDT by kempster
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every time an article like this comes up some (a) nutjob, (b) paid shill, (c) malcontent comes out of the woodwork to hijack the thread, cause chaos, then quietly walk away when things are over.


31 posted on 07/24/2012 6:50:20 PM PDT by ak267 (The Law Of the Sea Treaty...LOST...must be defeated...CALL YOUR SENATORS!!!)
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To: ak267; MacMattico

See post #23

Forget the signs: why not try holding your candidate’s feet to the fire instead of getting away with the “gay couples, gay adoption” stuff?

Give me just one link to Romney denouncing the Pentagon’s decision to let our military march in a gay pride parade in uniform. Maybe it exists. I can’t find it.

Put it up here for all to see.


32 posted on 07/24/2012 6:50:44 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

Moronic. Perot gave Clinton the presidency.


33 posted on 07/24/2012 6:52:21 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: xzins
Goode, in fact, feels that “in many ways, for conservatives, it might be better to have Obama as president next year rather than Romney.”

Virgil is a moron. The harm that Obastard could do in four more years as president would be immeasurable.

34 posted on 07/24/2012 6:52:32 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: Carry_Okie
My vote for Romney in California would be virtually meaningless.

If Goode winds up on the CA ballot, ALL California FREEPERs should vote for him...even if they have to write in his name...

Goode is on 17 ballots thus far...and has just submitted signatures for VA...which would be his 18th state...

Not sure what his 17th state was...the first 16 states Goode gained access to the ballot are: Colorado, Florida, Idaho, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Nevada, Ohio, Oregon, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Utah, Wisconsin, and Wyoming

35 posted on 07/24/2012 6:53:29 PM PDT by Colofornian (Saying Mitt would keep past political promises is like prophesying that Gumby won't bend anymore)
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To: newzjunkey

Chaplains are not allowed to wear their military uniforms at pro-life parades.

Officers are not allowed to wear their military uniforms when speaking on their own time in churches.

No one is permitted to wear their military uniform at any assembly or parade that has any political agenda at all.

BUT, the Pentagon allowed gay military to wear their military uniforms at a gay pride parade.

Show me a link to Romney’s denunciation of that decision.

Show me your letter to Romney denouncing his silence if there is no link to a Romney denunciation.

Show me your letter denouncing his endorsement of gay couples and gay adoption.

You ABO’s claim you will hold his feet to the fire.

Show me.


36 posted on 07/24/2012 6:54:51 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

see #36


37 posted on 07/24/2012 6:55:44 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

Goode would make a good VP choice: assuring the Va votes and playing ‘Cheney’ to Romney’s ‘Bush’.

Hey, ‘strange bedfellows’ and all...


38 posted on 07/24/2012 6:55:47 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: xzins
“Conservatives will turn elsewhere”.

In the end, the only “elsewhere” is Obama. We can't survive another 4 years of O. And if Obama is elected again we probably won't survive another four years!

39 posted on 07/24/2012 6:56:28 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: xzins

I hope Goode and his backbone are very happy together. I know people who are supporting this nonsense and I won’t meet with them anymore. They simply have no conception of the danger we are in.


40 posted on 07/24/2012 6:56:44 PM PDT by firebrand
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