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Judge says it's OK to use your seized phone to impersonate you and entrap your friends
boingboing ^ | July 19, 2012 | Cory Doctorow

Posted on 07/24/2012 8:56:18 PM PDT by carenot

A federal judge has upheld the practice of police using seized phones to impersonate their owners, reading messages and sending sending entrapping replies to contacts in the phone's memory, without a warrant. The judge reasoned that constitutional privacy rights don't apply to messages if they appear on a seized device -- even if the messages originated with someone who has not been arrested or is under suspicion of any crime:A federal appeals court held that the pager owner's Fourth Amendment rights against unreasonable search and seizure were not violated because the pager is "nothing more than a contemporary receptacle for telephone numbers," akin to an address book. The court also held that someone who sends his phone number to a pager has no reasonable expectation of privacy because he can't be sure that the pager will be in the hands of its owner.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; duplicate

1 posted on 07/24/2012 8:56:28 PM PDT by carenot
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To: carenot

There is no information behind this article.

Who, what, where, when, why, how?


2 posted on 07/24/2012 9:04:06 PM PDT by AlmaKing
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To: AlmaKing

Somebody did something somewhere just because somehow.

...probably...or maybe not. Maybe it’s a trick article.


3 posted on 07/24/2012 9:15:18 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: AlmaKing
I was able to derive the wwwwwh from what I read.

Who is the federal judge.

What is upholding sneaky rat-bastard perversion of the 4th Amendment.

Where is not so clear, but federal.

When is now.

Why is based on specious reasoning based on unclear understanding of the difference between messaging and pagers.

How is because the judge can.

/johnny

4 posted on 07/24/2012 9:16:22 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: carenot
I don't have a clue as to where this happened, if it did.

Sorry I didn't research before posting. I don't remember how I happened on the site.

5 posted on 07/24/2012 9:17:02 PM PDT by carenot (We'd rather hold on to the myth than fight for the reality)
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To: AlmaKing
I have to admit Cory writes in a packed-array style. Love his books. I re-read them from time to time, because I always get more out of them.

/johnny

6 posted on 07/24/2012 9:18:30 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: carenot

If the supposed sender of the texts/emails is not who it is, how can they prove that the one who replied is who they think it is?

Turnabout is fair play.


7 posted on 07/24/2012 9:30:29 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Legalize Freedom!!)
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To: carenot

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/07/its-legal-cops-seize-cell-phone-impersonate-owner/


8 posted on 07/24/2012 9:52:11 PM PDT by Piranha (If you seek perfection you will end up with Democrats.)
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To: Piranha

State judge, not Federal judge.


9 posted on 07/24/2012 9:53:04 PM PDT by Piranha (If you seek perfection you will end up with Democrats.)
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To: carenot

How about cops can shoot felony stupid and stop shooting dogs and law abiding citizens? I’m okay with that.

Felony stupid (as opposed to misdemeanor ignorance) is shot.


10 posted on 07/24/2012 10:36:18 PM PDT by KitJ (Shall not be infringed)
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To: AlmaKing

When they don’t need a warrent to do this, there is no reason for a who, what, why, where, and when.

If the article is correct and if I understand it correctly, the judge claimed that the police can take your phone and send messages to your contacts in a effort to set you and them up for crimes if they choose to do it. No warrent necessary. I would guess they need cause to take your phone and that is handled with an arrest.


11 posted on 07/24/2012 10:53:20 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: carenot

Interesting logic here...

I imagine that if this is upheld then the numbers of people using these devices might just plummet.

It’s only one more step to make it legal for the police to just handle both sides of a text conversation and use that as evidence in a ‘kangaroo’ trial to bring about convictions.


12 posted on 07/25/2012 3:50:29 AM PDT by The Working Man
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