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Rep. Ellison Calls For ‘Reasonable Gun Controls’ Following Colo. Shooting
WCCO (CBS Minnesota) ^ | July 24, 2012 | Pat Kessler

Posted on 07/24/2012 10:25:51 PM PDT by voteNRA

A Minnesota congressman is calling for important changes to federal firearm laws in the wake of the movie theater massacre in Colorado.

Democrat Keith Ellison says the U.S. should not just restrict assault weapons but it should also set limits on some gun clips, ammunition and body armor.

“Reasonable gun controls,” Ellison said. “It’s time.”

Ellison said Tuesday that you don’t need a bulletproof vest and an assault rifle to go hunting. He’s supporting laws to restrict some of the items the Colorado shooter used in his deadly rampage. .....

(Excerpt) Read more at minnesota.cbslocal.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: 112th; 2012; banglist; brc; cair; cmsa; democrats; ellison; guncontrol; gungrabbers; islam; islamiclawmaker; keithellison; liberalfascism; muslim; muslimbrotherhood; noi; youwillnotdisarmus
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muslim brotherhood endorsed Congressman Ellison chimes in with his desire to disarm.

Pretty much open commenting at the story (alias and made up email is all it takes) - have fun

While we're at it, here is my favorite picture of Mr. Ellison from a demonstration in Washington right around the time he showed up.

ellison-cuffed

1 posted on 07/24/2012 10:26:03 PM PDT by voteNRA
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To: voteNRA
Make it a felony not to own a gun after the age of 12 and have had training on how to use them!!!
2 posted on 07/24/2012 10:28:33 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: MplsSteve

Minnesota’s favorite congressman ping


3 posted on 07/24/2012 10:29:00 PM PDT by voteNRA (A citizenry armed with rifles simply cannot be tyrannized)
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To: voteNRA

Just like taxes, there is no definition of reasonable where liberals are concerned.


4 posted on 07/24/2012 10:29:21 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: voteNRA

every infringement on the constitution is reasonable to people that want to control you


5 posted on 07/24/2012 10:29:31 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: voteNRA

The second amendment was not intended to protect people’s right to hunt, but their right to defense of life, liberty and property. People can hunt with arrows and knives. We need guns to ward off criminals and tyrants.


6 posted on 07/24/2012 10:31:00 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: voteNRA

I call for a “reasonable” lobotomy and a strait jacket for Rep. Muzzie here..


7 posted on 07/24/2012 10:31:00 PM PDT by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: voteNRA
Ellison said Tuesday that you don’t need a bulletproof vest

He didn't have one. He had a vest with pockets.

Maybe we should ban movie theaters. After all, they have been trouble for ages.

We had to pass laws against someone yelling "Fire"! Some one could get trampled.

It was a one off case Ellison.

8 posted on 07/24/2012 10:32:16 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: voteNRA

The only good Ellison is a handcuffed Ellison.


9 posted on 07/24/2012 10:34:15 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: mylife
"He didn't have one. He had a vest with pockets."

I haven't been following closely, is it confirmed that all he had was a tactical vest and not the armor plates that were first reported?

10 posted on 07/24/2012 10:35:56 PM PDT by voteNRA (A citizenry armed with rifles simply cannot be tyrannized)
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To: voteNRA

I support gun control too.

I control what guns I purchase and own.

You control what guns you purchase and own.

The government gets to keep the hell out of our way.


11 posted on 07/24/2012 10:38:21 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Remove all Democrats from the Republican party, and we won't have much Left, just a lot of Right.)
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To: P-Marlowe
Ellison said Tuesday that you don’t need a bulletproof vest and an assault rifle to go hunting.

Depends on what you're hunting for.

12 posted on 07/24/2012 10:38:30 PM PDT by oldbrowser (As long as Obama's records are sealed, any discussion of Romney's past is off limits.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
"The only good Ellison is a handcuffed Ellison."

Amen Secret Agent Man!

Here's another from the incident of Ellison cuffed and getting stuffed in the van

ellison-paddywagon

13 posted on 07/24/2012 10:39:08 PM PDT by voteNRA (A citizenry armed with rifles simply cannot be tyrannized)
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To: voteNRA

The only “reasonable” gun control would be keeping them out of the hands of sociopaths. I don’t think that would be possible, so I prefer gun rights because good people outnumber the bad.


14 posted on 07/24/2012 10:39:25 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Tories in- now the REAL work begins!)
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To: voteNRA

What I have never understood is how these Pu**y’s get through the day handing kitchen knifes to make a dinner, load their darling baby’s in a car that can go 120 MPH, fill it with gasoline, run right at another car going 70 mph just feet away, then drop the babies off with someone they don’t even know, and guns, scare them.

Hmmphh! Go figure.


15 posted on 07/24/2012 10:39:25 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: voteNRA

We need to ban “gun free” zones. They only leave the good people disarmed.

I’m not surprised this muzzie congress critter wants to disarm Christians and Jews.


16 posted on 07/24/2012 10:39:54 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (If Guns Kill People then Cars Drive Drunk)
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To: voteNRA

It was a simple tactical vest.


17 posted on 07/24/2012 10:41:03 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: voteNRA

Ban Pockets!

This Holmes Guy was a wingnut.

You could ban rocks and the SOB would have still popped.


18 posted on 07/24/2012 10:43:21 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife
We had to pass laws against someone yelling "Fire"!

Not to nitpick, but that is a crime just about anywhere. Under the Criminal Code of Canada, it is illegal to "produce a false alarm of fire", and that applies not just to pulling an alarm but also to shouting "fire". It involves serious jail time.

19 posted on 07/24/2012 10:43:29 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Tories in- now the REAL work begins!)
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To: voteNRA; mylife

I saw a report in the National Post that said he was wearing full body armour and a tactical helmet.


20 posted on 07/24/2012 10:45:27 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Tories in- now the REAL work begins!)
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To: voteNRA
"“Reasonable gun controls,” Ellison said. “It’s time.” "

I agree.

Every civilian should reasonably control their own gun. Use as prescribed - for protection.

21 posted on 07/24/2012 10:47:07 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: voteNRA

Even if the jackass had been wearing armor, had he been hit by a couple CHL folks, he would have been rattled.


22 posted on 07/24/2012 10:47:07 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: DoughtyOne

When I think “gun control” it means hitting the target and nothing else.


23 posted on 07/24/2012 10:47:30 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Tories in- now the REAL work begins!)
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To: voteNRA

hey.. wait... This is not about Michele!


24 posted on 07/24/2012 10:49:01 PM PDT by cableguymn (For the first time in my life. I fear my country's government.)
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To: mylife
"It was a simple tactical vest."

Good to hear, the initial armor plates that were reported would be hard to deal with

25 posted on 07/24/2012 10:50:14 PM PDT by voteNRA (A citizenry armed with rifles simply cannot be tyrannized)
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To: mylife

You certainly put that into perspective. The only thing you missed was the family vacation where they stuff their loved ones into an aluminum tube surrounded with kerosene.


26 posted on 07/24/2012 10:50:59 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Tories in- now the REAL work begins!)
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To: Squawk 8888

Canada is moving toward more gun rights, but they have a bad habit on 1st amendment rights.

My point is that if someone shouts fire in a theater it is ridiculous to pass laws on theaters or speech that are draconian.


27 posted on 07/24/2012 10:51:57 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: cableguymn
"hey.. wait... This is not about Michele!

LOL, sorry I forgot the "/s" after "favorite"

She sure has gotten under old ellison and the rest of the DFL's collective skin this week though!

28 posted on 07/24/2012 10:53:37 PM PDT by voteNRA (A citizenry armed with rifles simply cannot be tyrannized)
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To: voteNRA
"assault weapons"

Any weapon used to assault someone can be called an assault weapon.

29 posted on 07/24/2012 10:54:42 PM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: Squawk 8888

Nobody thinks a thing of it.

For all the tragedy that this jackass committed, I would suggest that the family car and pool kill way more on a yearly basis.

Should we ban them?


30 posted on 07/24/2012 10:54:50 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

Maybe midnight shows should be banned.
Theaters should be limited to only 25 people at a show.
In a gun free zone, all doors should be locked when the movie starts.
No cell phones.
No children after 8pm.
Ban pockets.


31 posted on 07/24/2012 10:55:26 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: voteNRA

I believe the company that sold it was

www.tacticalvest.com

They are being harassed.
The Poor girls on the phone are in tears.

They did noting wrong.


32 posted on 07/24/2012 10:59:22 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

I agree. IIRC your Supreme Court ruled that the “fire” scenario is not a free speech issue because it is not speech, but incitement, and incitement is an action. That goes back to our common English Common Law heritage, which to this day is a recognized part of my country’s Constitution (most of Canada’s Constitution is unwritten, based on precedent from English Common Law and the Napoleonic Civil Code).

You are right that we are improving on gun rights, but vis-a-vis 1st Amendment there is also good news:

1. We never had the bogus church/state separation, so there is not nearly as much trouble about displays of faith in the public square.

2. The worst violation of free speech, section 13 of the Human Rights Code, is in the process of being repealed.


33 posted on 07/24/2012 11:00:40 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Tories in- now the REAL work begins!)
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To: Squawk 8888; mylife
"I saw a report in the National Post that said he was wearing full body armour and a tactical helmet."

I saw a similar report and was wondering what type of carry piece would suffice for that kind of armor. The two I came up with (and I don't know if they would succeed) was a .357 or perhaps the FN-5.7. - any thoughts?

I have been told that the shooter was only wearing a simple tactical vest (no armor) so my question above is only for education and doesn't necessarily pertain to the Colorado incident.

34 posted on 07/24/2012 11:01:50 PM PDT by voteNRA (A citizenry armed with rifles simply cannot be tyrannized)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

Quite honestly, I don’t know how this jackass got in though an emergency ESCAPE door.

They are supposed to work one way.
They provide regress but not egress.


35 posted on 07/24/2012 11:03:12 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: voteNRA

I read a statement from the Company that sold the vest today.

That said it was NOT Body armor.

Just a tactical vest


36 posted on 07/24/2012 11:06:08 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

Maybe defense free zones should be banned.


37 posted on 07/24/2012 11:07:19 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife
"They are being harassed. The Poor girls on the phone are in tears."

I'm sorry to hear that, you're right they did nothing wrong - they just sell sporting accessories. This has to be really hard to get over, even though they should feel no guilt.

38 posted on 07/24/2012 11:07:50 PM PDT by voteNRA (A citizenry armed with rifles simply cannot be tyrannized)
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To: mylife

That’s an interesting point. From the perspective of a theatre owner, I would not want anyone to gain entry that way because of the potential loss of revenue.


39 posted on 07/24/2012 11:08:11 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Tories in- now the REAL work begins!)
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To: voteNRA

These idiot dems are about to learn that the 2nd Amendment is the true third rail of American politics. Saw some polls - the numbers are good (for us), with over 60% AGAINST more “reasonable” gun control...


40 posted on 07/24/2012 11:10:32 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: mylife

I got that mylife, I was just posing a “what if” question of what round would best be suited if he was wearing armor (as initially reported by some)


41 posted on 07/24/2012 11:10:45 PM PDT by voteNRA (A citizenry armed with rifles simply cannot be tyrannized)
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To: voteNRA

Anything would have got his attention.

It’s like throwing a 1200 to 1500 fps brick at him.

The armor may stop penetration, but that jasper would be rattled enough to throw him of his game.


42 posted on 07/24/2012 11:14:14 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: dalereed
Make it a felony not to own a gun after the age of 12 and have had training on how to use them!!!

If 12 year olds are going to be taught how to put a condom on properly, they should also be taught how to safely handle a gun.

43 posted on 07/24/2012 11:14:22 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Eric Holder's NAACP rally against the voter ID laws required the press to bring govt issue photo ID.)
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To: voteNRA

All I know is they will all still hit like bricks.


44 posted on 07/24/2012 11:16:57 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: voteNRA

Right, the media has slowly come out with the corrections about it not being body armor.

When the initial story went out, it was used to poo poo the notion that concealed carrying audience members could have stopped/dropped him.

Also heard someone saying that the only use for armor piercing bullets is to shoot cops. Except this guy wasn’t a cop.


45 posted on 07/24/2012 11:18:47 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Eric Holder's NAACP rally against the voter ID laws required the press to bring govt issue photo ID.)
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To: piytar
"These idiot dems are about to learn that the 2nd Amendment is the true third rail of American politics. Saw some polls - the numbers are good (for us), with over 60% AGAINST more “reasonable” gun control..."

Absoutley correct piytar, and I think its probably well over 60%

On a side note, I was at the local Gander Mountain on Saturday (day after) and the gun floor was packed. I talked to the guy behind the counter and he told me gun sales were way up compared to the week before and ... get this ... people were interested in, and buying up all of the lasers and tactical lights they had.

Got to love REAL Americans, when dealt with a problem like defending ourselves in a dark theater we improvise instead of crying for government to "protect us"

46 posted on 07/24/2012 11:19:32 PM PDT by voteNRA (A citizenry armed with rifles simply cannot be tyrannized)
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And then again who ever popped him first could be the next to go down, drawing attention to themselves.

But body armor won’t protect you indefinitely.


47 posted on 07/24/2012 11:22:14 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

I’m curious if there was a security camera outside the theater (or indoor) at the exit. People have been sneaking into theaters for ages.

Additionally there are often security cameras on the roof pointed at the parking lots to observe those breaking into cars (since the owners are tied up for hours).


48 posted on 07/24/2012 11:22:14 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Eric Holder's NAACP rally against the voter ID laws required the press to bring govt issue photo ID.)
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To: a fool in paradise

I know there was a camera on the outside.

He parked right beside the emergency door.


49 posted on 07/24/2012 11:24:46 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

My “everyday” weapon comes in 9mm, I was thinking my SIG would be better than nothing in the situation but if those plates were level-4 wouldn’t a 9 just bounce off?


50 posted on 07/24/2012 11:25:05 PM PDT by voteNRA (A citizenry armed with rifles simply cannot be tyrannized)
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