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Tea party leader says all Muslims a ‘threat’ to U.S.; seeks recall of McCain
AZCapitolTimes.com ^ | July 23, 2012 | Jeremy Duda

Posted on 07/25/2012 6:27:19 AM PDT by TexasCajun

A prominent Phoenix tea party leader who believes Muslims cannot be trusted to be loyal to the United States and should not be working for the federal government is incensed with U.S. Sen. John McCain’s defense of a top State Department official and is eying a recall drive against Arizona’s senior senator.

Wes Harris, the founder and chairman of the Original North Phoenix Tea Party, said he plans to take out a recall petition against McCain. While Harris has many problems with McCain, a mass email he sent out focused solely on the senator’s recent defense of Huma Abedin, a top aide to U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. Harris accused Abedin of having ties to an Islamic extremist group, and he objected to the fact that a Muslim was working for the State Department in the first place.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: harris; jerk; mecain; rino
“Have you ever read the Quran? I suggest you do so, because anyone that is a Muslim is a threat to this country, and that’s a fact,” Harris told the Arizona Capitol Times. “There is no such thing as a moderate Muslim. If they are Muslim they have to follow the Quran. That’s their religion and that’s their doctrine.”
1 posted on 07/25/2012 6:27:28 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: TexasCajun

It’s about friggin time (!)


2 posted on 07/25/2012 6:29:23 AM PDT by ransacked
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To: TexasCajun

Islam is not a religion,
It is a ideology based on world domination masquerading as a religion.
No other religion requires total submission or death.
Islam does.!
ISLAM IS TERRORISM BY IT’S VERY NATURE


3 posted on 07/25/2012 6:31:32 AM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: TexasCajun
Muslims cannot be trusted to be loyal to the United States

Muslims cannot be TRUSTED .... PERIOD.

4 posted on 07/25/2012 6:32:09 AM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: TexasCajun
Muslims cannot be trusted to be loyal to the United States

Muslims cannot be TRUSTED .... PERIOD.

5 posted on 07/25/2012 6:32:13 AM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: ransacked

“Tea party leader says all Muslims a ‘threat’ to U.S.; seeks recall of McCain”

When Muslims world wide avow allegiance to and agreement with radical Muslim leaders who routinely and publicly announce their plan for the destruction of everything NOT Muslim, how can this guy be wrong?


6 posted on 07/25/2012 6:34:12 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: TexasCajun

While I agree 100% with the sentiment, U.S. Senators are not subject to recall under any circumstance.

And A Tea Party member should know this.


7 posted on 07/25/2012 6:35:49 AM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: bill1952

Yeah that’s what I was thinking.


8 posted on 07/25/2012 6:37:09 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: TexasCajun
Wes Harris, the founder and chairman of the Original North Phoenix Tea Party, said he plans to take out a recall petition against McCain.

>>Arizona Constitution, Article 8: Every public officer in the state of Arizona, holding an elective office, either by election or appointment, is subject to recall from such office by the qualified electors of the electoral district from which candidates are elected to such office. Such electoral district may include the whole state.

A US senator is not an official of the state of Arizona. He is an elected official of the United States. His term of office is settled by the US Constitution, which gives him six years. No state constitution or law can change that.

9 posted on 07/25/2012 6:37:28 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: TexasCajun
I disagree that ALL Muslims are a threat to this country.

Having said that, Hillary should have vetted her little girlfriend a bit better and not selected her for the position she currently has. Even if they can't tie her directly to the Muslim Brotherhood, she has close family members who have been. That's enough of a threat to disqualify her for any type of position where she would have access to information that could threaten national security.

10 posted on 07/25/2012 6:39:29 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: TexasCajun

Can ANYONE here(or anywhere) well me exacally WHAT John McCain has EVER done right in his PATETIC life?


11 posted on 07/25/2012 6:40:50 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: TexasCajun

Oh how sad the liberals were on 9-11. S/

They wrung their hands, cried, made maudlin speeches and promises. The very moment we began to see what islam is, they cried “profiling” and closed ranks around muslims against their own constituents, but the country as a whole.

It isn’t only muslims that can’t be trusted, it’s liberal democrats that would sell their own children down the river for a vote. It isn’t only McStain that has to go, it is every politician that defends this cult to the detrement of our country, and our lives.

God bless the US Military who are giving all they have to protect not only those who love them, but those that are to gutless to speak the truth.


12 posted on 07/25/2012 6:41:48 AM PDT by mardi59 (THE REBELLION IS ON!!!)
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To: ransacked

He’s got my vote for recall!!!!


13 posted on 07/25/2012 6:52:05 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: TexasCajun

I hope this gets really interesting. Sen. McCain has gone off the rails again and I fear he is becoming a little out of touch.


14 posted on 07/25/2012 7:07:01 AM PDT by WellyP (question!)
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To: TexasCajun
U.S. Sen. John McCain and the Ruling Elite defend top State Department official
Ruling Class Has Another Hiss-y Fit
Ruling Class defended Alger Hiss -- to this day -- despite clear evidence of Soviet involvement 60 years ago
15 posted on 07/25/2012 7:10:24 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: TexasCajun

... and this is a mere requote of what muslims tell us all the time, that it is their doctrine to destroy the US as we know it and impose Islam... but we keep acting stupid.


16 posted on 07/25/2012 7:13:40 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: Sherman Logan
"....A US senator is not an official of the state of Arizona. He is an elected official of the United States...."

What a crock of s--t.............

That jackass is not elected as an at-large representative of America you nincompoop. He doesn't represent the people of these united States of America. He represents the citizens of Arizona. He is a two-bit elected blowhard from the State of Arizona.

17 posted on 07/25/2012 7:16:45 AM PDT by Robert Drobot (Quaeras de dubiis, legem bene discere si vis)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

They want it both ways. They want to be campaigning as Senators, not as equal candidate to anyone challenging their decisions... and, besides, they are unprofessional and political in all they do, so McCain and the establishment are fair game cowards.


18 posted on 07/25/2012 7:25:20 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: Robert Drobot; Sherman Logan
That jackass is not elected as an at-large representative of America you nincompoop. He doesn't represent the people of these united States of America. He represents the citizens of Arizona.

Before you start the next time you should be certain of the facts.

Fact is McCain IS a representative of the US at large and is not subject to recall at all, nor to any state laws to the contrary.

While I do not like the amendment that makes this so, it is law and he doesn't have to do squat for Arizona if he chooses not to.

19 posted on 07/25/2012 7:27:16 AM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: Robert Drobot

17th Amendment, US Constitution: “The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each State, elected by the people thereof, for six years”

Please show me where the Constitution makes allowance for the people of the state to recall their senator, thereby reducing his term from the prescribed six years.

The Arizona Constitution, in its provision for recall, states that they apply to “elected officials in the State of Arizona.” A senator or congressmen is not an elected offial in the state of Arizona, he is an elected official of the US government. Federal constitution and law applies, not state law.

BTW, what does it say about the intelligence and character of a person whose very first response to someone who disagrees is to (try to) insult him?


20 posted on 07/25/2012 7:31:49 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: TexasCajun

McCain is against America. Recall him.


21 posted on 07/25/2012 8:12:31 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: US Navy Vet

“Can ANYONE here (or anywhere) tell me exactly WHAT John McCain has EVER done right in his PATHETIC life?”

One thing comes to mind (and so far, one thing only).....
McCain launched Sarah Palin to national prominence four years ago.

Other than that.....crickets.


22 posted on 07/25/2012 8:20:49 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (If Guns Kill People then Cars Drive Drunk)
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To: bill1952; Sherman Logan; All
"Recalls against federal officials are not legally binding, and McCain would not be required to leave office if Arizona voters rejected him in a recall election. But state law allows federal elected officials to file statements with the Arizona Secretary of State’s Office pledging to resign if they lose a recall election, and McCain has filed such a statement.

"No federal elected official in Arizona has ever faced a recall election. McCain critics on both sides of the aisle have pursued several unsuccessful recalls against him in recent years." -- AZCapitolTimes.com

23 posted on 07/25/2012 8:26:38 AM PDT by Robert Drobot (Quaeras de dubiis, legem bene discere si vis)
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To: Sherman Logan

The Constitution enumerates the powers given to the government. If the Constitution does not specifically prohibit a state from recalling a senator then it is left to the state. Some states allow for recall of senators although it has never been done and would be extremely difficult and be drawn out (the jackass in question would be timed out on his term). The Constitution only addresses how long the term shall be, a term is no longer than 6 years before requiring the senator to run again, but does not specify anything about that term being inviolate. If a senator commits murder and is sent to prison is the state stuck with his name on the ballot even though he cannot serve? If a senator is appointed as an ambassador does he/she retain the seat for the rest of the six years? If a senator dies, do they prop the corpse in the seat until the six years is up? Arizona should press to test and go forward with recalling midget-mind mclame.


24 posted on 07/25/2012 8:28:55 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: TexasCajun

The voters of Arizona are not about to recall Mc Cain. If anything, they will elect him for another term.


25 posted on 07/25/2012 8:31:41 AM PDT by sport
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To: TexasCajun
(recall)

The Tea Party needs good people, good people who do their home work.

26 posted on 07/25/2012 8:40:29 AM PDT by yoe
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To: US Navy Vet
"Europeans killed 6 million Jews. In return they got 40 million Muslims."........McCain is not the sharpest knife in the drawer....he professes to be pro Israel but defends those who demand Israel's demise. McCain is a politician and as a politician he just wants your vote....I really can't say what the little Bantam rooster has done other than crash three jet planes and spend some awful time at the Hanoi Hilton...he is easily swayed.
27 posted on 07/25/2012 8:52:12 AM PDT by yoe
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To: US Navy Vet

Shot down a few bad guys during VN????

Not much else that I’ve ever heard about.

When he was nominated for POTUS, I was more embarrassed then the cycle they put Bob the Bore Dole up.


28 posted on 07/25/2012 8:57:23 AM PDT by CanuckYank
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To: Robe

I mentioned this before, but as early as the early 80s, when a friend in the CA Air National Guard was going through War College programs for advancement, he told me that ALL the conflict scenarios being studied then - EVEN THIRTY YEARS AGO NOW - were based on threats originating in the sands of the Middle East, raghead/muslim nations.

ALL OF THE SCENARIOS - EVERY POTENTIAL MAJOR CONFLICT.

Think about that for just a few seconds ..... Arab Spring, Muslim BroHood, the infection of US Gubmint and Educational Institutions and Society in general was well known THIRTY YEARS AGO and was ALLOWED TO CONTINUE ......


29 posted on 07/25/2012 9:04:32 AM PDT by CanuckYank
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To: TexasCajun
“Have you ever read the Quran? I suggest you do so, because anyone that is a Muslim is a threat to this country, and that’s a fact,” Harris told the Arizona Capitol Times. “There is no such thing as a moderate Muslim. If they are Muslim they have to follow the Quran.

Many "Christians" hold beliefs directly contradictory to the Bible. Yes, religiously tolerant "Muslims" are heretics - but it's a good heresy and I see no value in rubbing their noses in it.

30 posted on 07/25/2012 9:15:31 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: TexasCajun
The Truth About Islam

The history of Islam's practitioners speaks for itself. Islam, by the very nature of its own doctrine, history and by the actions of its followers has shown itself to be the existential enemy of Western civilization. Dr. Andrew Bostom's The Legacy of Jihad: Islamic Holy War and the Fate of Non-Muslims provides insight into the Islamic mindset and what its ascendancy might mean for the rest of us:

Lee Harris' outstanding work, The Suicide of Reason: Radical Islam's Threat to the West explains why and how the West's days may be numbered. We are our own worst enemy unless we face up to the hard choices necessary to remain a free and prosperous people.

If anyone is still having trouble wrapping their minds around the fact that Western civilization does in fact have mortal and existential enemies, take a quick turn through Lee Harris' Civilization and Its Enemies

Let us also dispense with the idea that Islam is a religion. Islam is not so much a religion as it is a supremacist, totalitarian political ideology, a destructive and murderous meme impervious to moderation or change, and with a narrowly circumscribed set of rituals that define every aspect of its followers’ lives. As for 'tolerance', here's a quote from the Muslim Brotherhood and their mission in the U.S, calling for...

"...a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and sabotaging its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God’s religion is made victorious over all other religions."

Speaking to the “Islam is a religion of peace," assertion that we hear from Muslims and ignorant (yes, ignorant) Westerners, when Muslims assert that Islam is a “religion of peace” they are not engaging in al taqqiya, they are actually making an assertion in good faith.

The problem lies in the fact that Islam has, from the Western point of view, a defective concept of peace. In semitic languages like Arabic, the consonants are the “root” of the word: islam = submission, and salam = peace have the same root, slm.

The only concept of peace in Islamic jurisprudence is the peace between the conqueror and the conquered, between master and slave. There is no concept of a negotiated peace between nations in Islamic law (note that law is the defining property of Islam—their clerics are jurists, schools of Qu’ranic interpretation are called fiqh, a legalistic term)—Muslims may negotiate a “hudna” or armistice of limited duration with non-Muslim, but not a definitive enduring peace.

In that regard, Islam was, is and will continue to be a serial murderer of entire cultures and peoples. This is precisely what Islam has done throughout its entire 1400 year history. This is what it has done whenever it has finally gotten the upper hand in whatever culture it has infiltrated. This is what has been inextricably interwoven into the DNA of its operating system. Those whom Islam does not destroy, it enslaves, diminishes and impoverishes. Islam strives for the conversion, enslavement or death of all who do not conform to its cruel and sadistic vision of Mankind. Advocates of Islamic ‘reform’ are sadly mistaken and deluded. Islam cannot be ‘reformed’ in the light of our Western values of humanity and freedom. Were that so, it would no longer be Islam. For its psychopathic and brutal misogyny alone, Islam is an abomination and worthy only of extinction.

The best and most concise description of the Islamic mindset was laid out almost as an aside by noted historian and philosopher, Carroll Quigley in his landmark Tragedy and Hope: A History of the World in Our Time. Here, he describes what he characterized as The Pakistani-Peruvian axis. An excerpt from that work is shown below:

Another aspect of Arabic society is the scorn of honest, steady manual work, especially agricultural work. This is a consequence of the fusion of at least three ancient influences. First, the archaic bureaucratic structure of Asiatic despotism, in which the peasants supported the warriors and scribes, regarded manual workers, especially tillers of the soil, as the lowest layer of society, and regarded the acquisition of literacy and military prowess as the chief roads to escape from physical drudgery. Second, the fact that Classical Antiquity, whose influence on the subsequent Islamic civilization was very great, was based on slavery, and came to regard agricultural (or other manual) work as fit for slaves, also contributed to this idea. Third, the Bedouin tradition of pastoral, warlike nomads scorned tillers of the soil as weak and routine persons of no real spirit or character, fit to be conquered or walked on but not to be respected. The combination of these three formed the lack of respect of manual work that is so characteristic of the Pakistani-Peruvian axis.

Somewhat similar to this lack of respect for manual work are a number of other aspects of traditional Arab life that have spread the length of the Pakistani-Peruvian axis. The chief source of many of these is the Bedouin outlook, which originally reflected the attitudes of relatively small group of the Islamic culture but which, because they were a superior, conquering group, came to be copied by others in the society, even by the despised agricultural workers. These attitudes include lack of respect for the soil, for vegetation, for most animals, and for outsiders. These attitudes, which are singularly ill-fitted for the geographic and climatic conditions of the whole Pakistani-Peruvian area, are to be seen constantly in the everyday life of that area as erosion, destruction of vegetation and wild life, personal cruelty and callousness to most living things, including one’s fellow men, and a general harshness and indifference to God’s creation. This final attitude, which well reflects the geographic conditions of the area, which seem as harsh and indifferent as man himself, is met by those men who must face it in their daily life as a resigned submission to fate and to the inhumanity of man to man.

Interestingly enough, these attitudes have successfully survived the efforts of the three great religions of ethical monotheism, native to the area, to change these attitudes. The ethical sides of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam sought to counteract harshness, egocentricity, tribalism, cruelty, scorn of work and of one’s fellow creatures, but these efforts, on the whole, have met with little success throughout the length of the Pakistani-Peruvian axis. Of the three, Christianity, possibly because it set the highest standards of the three, has fallen furthest from achieving its aims. Love, humility, brotherhood, cooperation, the sanctity of work, the fellowship of community, the image of man as a fellow creature made in the image of God, respect for women as personalities and partners of men, mutual helpmates on the road to spiritual salvation, and the vision of our universe, with all of its diversity, complexity, and multitude of creatures, as a reflection of the power and goodness of God – these basic aspects of Christ’s teachings are almost totally lacking throughout the Pakistani-Peruvian axis and most notably absent on the “Christian” portion of that axis from Sicily, or even the Aegean Sea, westward to Baja California and Tierra del Fuego.

Throughout the whole axis, human actions are not motivated by these “Christian virtues,” but by the more ancient Arabic personality traits, which become vices and sins in the Christian outlook: harshness, envy, lust, greed, selfishness, cruelty, and hatred.

Quigley believed that Islam possessed an “ethical” aspect. However that may be, it is overshadowed and essentially silenced by the actions of its adherents. As I have previously stated, Islam is an abomination and worthy only of extinction.

31 posted on 07/25/2012 9:26:33 AM PDT by Noumenon (I will not pay the Obama jizya.)
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To: CanuckYank

He was a “Light” Attack Naval “Aviator” He didn;t “Shoot” down CRAP!


32 posted on 07/25/2012 9:29:14 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: TexasCajun

GOOD!


33 posted on 07/25/2012 9:48:46 AM PDT by READINABLUESTATE ("We must hang together, gentlemen...else, we shall most assuredly hang separately." - Franklin)
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To: RJS1950
If a senator commits murder and is sent to prison is the state stuck with his name on the ballot even though he cannot serve?

Yep. Though if he doesn't resign, the Senate can remove him.

If a senator is appointed as an ambassador does he/she retain the seat for the rest of the six years?

The traditional approach has been for senators to resign, but if he didn't, I'm not sure there's any mechanism other than the Senate itself by which he can be removed. Unless being out of the country qualifies as a "vacancy" under the 17th.

If a senator dies, do they prop the corpse in the seat until the six years is up?

17th Amendment again: "When vacancies happen in the representation of any State in the Senate, the executive authority of each State shall issue writs of election to fill such vacancies: Provided That the legislature of any State may empower the executive thereof to make temporary appointments until the people fill the vacancies by election as the legislature may direct."

You will, however,note that while the 17th contains provisions delegating filling of vacancies to the state executive and legislative entities, there is no such provision for recall.

IMO recalling a senator might not be a bad idea, but would require a (federal) constitutional amendment.

34 posted on 07/25/2012 10:16:17 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: RJS1950

Congressional Research Service report on whether sitting members of Congress can be recalled.

http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL30016.pdf

Answer: No.


35 posted on 07/25/2012 10:21:35 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: TexasCajun

Better yet, recall (repeal) the 17th Amendment.

The House was formed to represent the people. The Senate was formed to serve the interests of the states, hence the (original) selection of senators by their respective state legislatures. Senators are now nothing more than higher-profile representatives, no different than Congresscritters.

But doing away with the 17th, we would gives the states back their voices and (I believe) slash the amount of money “contributed” but out-of-state people and organizations. And we all know how “contributions” seem a lot like investments.

So, just keep laughing at McLame. He isn’t running for another term anyway, is he?


36 posted on 07/25/2012 6:55:54 PM PDT by DNME (Tired of being polite about it? Time for action? Reawaken the Sons of Liberty!)
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To: TexasCajun

Anyone who calls a threat a ‘threat’ could be a threat.


37 posted on 07/25/2012 6:59:16 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: WellyP
I hope this gets really interesting. Sen. McCain has gone off the rails again and I fear he is becoming a little out of touch.

I think the word you were looking for is SENILE!

38 posted on 07/25/2012 7:00:40 PM PDT by SMM48
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To: US Navy Vet

THX for the heads up, I’m victim of the Myth. And please clarify what “Light” Attack Naval “Aviator” specifically was/is.

;-}


39 posted on 07/26/2012 9:01:50 AM PDT by CanuckYank
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To: CanuckYank

“Light” Attack Naval “Aviator” is any US Navy or Marine Corps “Aviator(they don’t like being called “Pilots”)” that flys/flew A-4s(1960s-mid 1980s), A-7s(Late 1960s-early 1990s) or F/A-18s(1980s-now).


40 posted on 07/26/2012 9:09:11 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: US Navy Vet

THX


41 posted on 07/26/2012 9:54:17 AM PDT by CanuckYank
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To: CanuckYank

Don’t know where i got the “shot some bad guys down “ impression, but I gather all he did (after a pretty sloppy and expensive early flying career) was to drive tactical high speed bombers (A4s) during VN.

It appears his only real claim to fame was the Hanoi Hilton experience, and while I have deep sympathy for the horrific experiences while he was held by the Cong, I think he milked it WAY beyond it’s inherent value to the US Citizenry.

His latest rant about Michelle Bachman shows just how cowardly he has become, joining the PC crowd instead of calling spades what they are.

But then they used the same tar and feathers routine to destroy McCarthy as well. (sigh........)


42 posted on 07/26/2012 10:07:58 AM PDT by CanuckYank
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To: bill1952; cripplecreek
U.S. Senators are not subject to recall under any circumstance

Did the law regarding recall change ?

Because in 2001, we Arizonans had collected the lion's share of recall petitions against McAmNasty....but then 911 happened, and the recall drive was discontinued.

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43 posted on 07/26/2012 10:38:30 AM PDT by repentant_pundit (Sammy's your uncle, but he behaves like a spoiled rotten kid.)
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To: repentant_pundit

They collected petitions to recall my congressman a few years back too. When they threw a tantrum about the secretary of state refusing to accept them, the judge told them that collecting signatures was fine but that didn’t make recall a legal option.


44 posted on 07/26/2012 11:35:25 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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