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In wake of tragedy, lawyers step in: Colorado shooting survivor plans suit, says publicist
Yahoo News - The Outlook ^ | July 25, 2012 | Liz Goodwin

Posted on 07/25/2012 4:10:13 PM PDT by QT3.14

Torrence Brown Jr., one of the Aurora movie shooting survivors, is planning on suing the theater, confirmed his family's publicist on Wednesday. "We're going to make sure whoever is accountable is going to take responsibility for this tragedy," Cassandra Williams of Wet PR said. She said that Brown, who was friends with 18-year-old AJ Boik, one of the shooting victims, is handling the criticism his suit has sparked. "We know it goes with the territory, so he's fine," Williams said. She added that Brown, 18, is seeking therapy and is emotionally distraught after the shooting.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: aurora; banglist; batman; cinemark; colorado; holmes; jamesholmes; lawsuit; liability; theatremassacre

1 posted on 07/25/2012 4:10:17 PM PDT by QT3.14
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To: QT3.14

More to follow is a fact.


2 posted on 07/25/2012 4:11:23 PM PDT by QT3.14 (We live in an era with Smart Phones and Dumb People)
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To: QT3.14

Barracuda already circling.....


3 posted on 07/25/2012 4:12:17 PM PDT by njslim (St)
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To: QT3.14
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4 posted on 07/25/2012 4:13:53 PM PDT by CodeToad (History says our end is near.)
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To: QT3.14
Who do you sue and on what grounds?

The only possible suit I could see is if the theater disallowed C&C permit holders to carry in the building and then I would think you would need to be permit holder and in the building at the time of the shooting to have standing.

5 posted on 07/25/2012 4:16:41 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: QT3.14

Sue them for prohibiting CCW holders from exercising their legal and constitutional right of self-defense.


6 posted on 07/25/2012 4:16:59 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: QT3.14

I hope a judge or jury tells him to go pound sand.


7 posted on 07/25/2012 4:17:33 PM PDT by Clock King
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To: njslim
The bodies weren't cold and some of the potential barracuda were already circulating ~ remember that the New York Daily News was the first on the block blaming guns. Then there was Senator Lautenberg, also blaming guns.

Mort Zuckerman owns the news. Lautenberg has extensive holdings. Both have friends and relatives with substantial holdings of all kind.

I suggested some enterprising young legal team would undoubtedly be searching for connections between Cinemark Holding and all the senior active partners who can be stripped to their skivies in court ~ so it would be logical for some of them to squawk first and blame somebody else.

Other news media have gotten into the same game ~ including the crowd who own shares in the Washington Post ~ and they, too, have sought to blame others for the Aurora shootings.

8 posted on 07/25/2012 4:17:33 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: QT3.14

Note that Torrence was not shot. I say he and his family and their publicist need to go jump in a lake. “Something bad happened to other people ... give me money!” Bleep that.


9 posted on 07/25/2012 4:17:48 PM PDT by Tax-chick (You have all been given written notice of my mid-life crisis. You have, understand?)
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To: Mad Dawgg; QT3.14
BAD LOCK ON DOOR ~ INADEQUETE LOCK ON DOOR ~ WRONG LOCK ON DOOR ~

The theater management selected the locking/door closure mechanism for their benefit (to keep people from slipping in to beat paying for tickets), and to let people get out. They totally ignored audience safety!

10 posted on 07/25/2012 4:21:33 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: QT3.14

is seeking therapy


I hope she finds it.


11 posted on 07/25/2012 4:22:04 PM PDT by Leep (Enemy of the Statist)
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To: Mad Dawgg
Who do you sue and on what grounds?

He sued: (1) the shooter's doctors, for prescribing him antidepressant drugs and not adequatley monitoring him (a dubious claim); (2) the theater, for not adequately guarding the exit door the shooter came in through (also pretty dubious); and (3) (I'm not kidding, but I wish I was) the movie studio for releasing an "ultra-violent movie" that attracted a psychotic shooter (an absolutely frivolous claim that should get the lawyer sanctioned).

12 posted on 07/25/2012 4:23:18 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Leep

Oops...HE.

Anyhow, he apparently found a lawyer.


13 posted on 07/25/2012 4:24:04 PM PDT by Leep (Enemy of the Statist)
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To: QT3.14
publicist?!
14 posted on 07/25/2012 4:25:20 PM PDT by verum ago (A good physical therapist is half friend, half sadist.)
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To: Mad Dawgg

Reading the article before posting would answer your question.


15 posted on 07/25/2012 4:27:24 PM PDT by QT3.14 (We live in an era with Smart Phones and Dumb People)
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To: verum ago
publicist?!

Wondered about that also. Geez! Needs one for the upcoming book, tv appearances, lecture tour and product endorsements? /sarc

16 posted on 07/25/2012 4:32:56 PM PDT by QT3.14 (We live in an era with Smart Phones and Dumb People)
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To: QT3.14

Like maybe the shooter? What are they going to take, the balance of his government funded grant, our tax money?


17 posted on 07/25/2012 4:37:32 PM PDT by 23 Everest (When seconds count. The police are just 23 minutes away. 831 Bonnie)
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To: 23 Everest

I hear the resale value of Hyundai is good.


18 posted on 07/25/2012 4:39:40 PM PDT by 23 Everest (When seconds count. The police are just 23 minutes away. 831 Bonnie)
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To: Clock King
I hope a judge or jury tells him to go pound sand.

He should sue on the grounds that because law abiding citizens were prohibited from carrying guns into the theater, the theater implicitly guaranteed their safety.

Obviously they failed to take even reasonable precautions to guarantee the safety of the movie goers.

THIS could be the first of hundreds of cases all across the US which begins to shift the blame to those who prevent us from carrying.

19 posted on 07/25/2012 4:42:24 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Liberals, at their core, are aggressive & dangerous to everyone around them,)
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To: Lurking Libertarian
I was hoping he was suing the Gub'ment for giving the nutter a 20K plus grant which he apparently used to buy his weapons and ammo.

(hahah that would have been a hoot!)

20 posted on 07/25/2012 4:46:59 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I agree but they had better be sure they can win before they fight that battle. We need a rock solid victory on this front. Losing would set a bad precedent for our cause.


21 posted on 07/25/2012 4:58:32 PM PDT by RC one (this space intentionally left blank)
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To: QT3.14

I would sue the theater and the town for not permitting CCW.

Legally speaking, this lawyer will probably focus on the lack of security. As a public venue, theaters are responsible for keeping a safe environment (making sure that people don’t trip over things, access to fire exits, building maint., etc).


22 posted on 07/25/2012 4:59:14 PM PDT by Retired Greyhound (.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Exactly. Not sure why this doesn’t happen more often.

If individuals or groups are prohibited as policy from their right of self defense, then that responsibility, and liability, naturally falls upon whomever made that call, simple as that. “In loco parentis”, iirc. It’s plain as day.


23 posted on 07/25/2012 5:07:09 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: QT3.14

I’m sure they’ll settle. Ten million dollars for the lawyers, and two free passes to the Cinemark Theater of their choice for each of the victims.


24 posted on 07/25/2012 5:09:22 PM PDT by Argus
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To: Mad Dawgg
Who do you sue and on what grounds?

Although I don't know what angle they'd use, the one that would get the liberal/socialist/democrats panties in a big wad would be if they sued because "The theater wouldn't let us protect ourselves (no gun zone) therefore the theater should have guaranteed our safety by whatever means necessary."

25 posted on 07/25/2012 5:16:07 PM PDT by Traveler59 ( Truth is a journey, not a destination.)
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To: QT3.14

The Fu#ckin lawyers are nothing but a bunch demorats looking for more money to fund their hero in the White House. What SCUM
they appeal to greed and are the epitomy of evil like their hero. God Help us.


26 posted on 07/25/2012 5:28:54 PM PDT by jesseam (eliev)
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To: QT3.14

The Fu#ckin lawyers are nothing but a bunch demorats looking for more money to fund their hero in the White House. What SCUM
they appeal to greed and are the epitomy of evil like their hero. God Help us.


27 posted on 07/25/2012 5:28:54 PM PDT by jesseam (eliev)
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To: muawiyah

One of the people in the theater said that someone (maybe the killer?) got up and left the theater through the door 20 minutes or so before the killer came in. Hard to blame that on the theater.


28 posted on 07/25/2012 5:35:55 PM PDT by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: The Truth Will Make You Free
No it isn't.

The coming lawsuits will blame all sorts of things on the theatre, but all of them will definitely mention the door ~ that witness is going to be very popular.

29 posted on 07/25/2012 5:38:26 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: The Truth Will Make You Free
The witness, as I recall, didn't put a time limit on anything. He simply said the guy on the end of the front row (next to him) got up to answer a cellphone call (or so it seemed) and went out that back exit door.

Then the next thing he saw there was a guy dressed up and tossing grenades.

Yes, it's the door ~ Holmes had his car parked right there at the back presumably to make it easy to get his gear and guns.

There are door latch designs that cannot be defeated without sounding an alarm.

30 posted on 07/25/2012 5:42:20 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: jesseam
The big money guys behind Cinemark are mostly Democrat party donors.

What's wrong with picking their pockets.

31 posted on 07/25/2012 5:44:17 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: jesseam

I used to tell people that a few good lawyers around were a good thing. I can’t hardly say that anymore. Far too many of them and so many scumbags. Our saying goes around here in TX, That it is just 98% of the lawyers that give all the rest of them a bad name........................


32 posted on 07/25/2012 5:48:04 PM PDT by Quickgun (Second Amendment. The only one you can put your hands on.)
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To: RC one
? This is hardly precedental. Back in the 1960s the entire building code in the United States (UBC and BOCA) was changed to require the use of exterior door locking mechanisms that could not be defeated by a simple chain.

That occurred after the explosion at the Indianapolis Coliseum that killed several dozen people when natural gas from a cannister used on a popcorn maker was released and then exploded under the stadium seats.

The problem in Aurora, and probably a whole huge bunch of theater exit doors is that there is NO ALARM system to report a door propped open. I"m pretty sure none of them can be defeatd with a simple chain, but this one may have been defeated with a small rock or a piece of tape!

33 posted on 07/25/2012 5:52:22 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Mad Dawgg

When it first happened, several Freepers brought up the issue that Holmes propped open the exit door and no alarm sounded.

I don’t know if Holmes found a way to defeat the alarm, if the alarm was not working, or if the door just didn’t have an alarm period.

In any of those three instances, the theater could be found at fault.

They’re in deep doodoo.


34 posted on 07/25/2012 5:55:24 PM PDT by randita (Either the politicians fix our fiscal insanity, or the markets will.)
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To: randita
In every multiplex theater I've ever been to, those side exits are not "Emergency Exits," with alarms. They are just exits, that patrons can use to leave the theater without going back out through the lobby. Obviously, they cannot be opended from outside, but they are made to be used in the regular course of business.

I know this through observation, and not because we used to sneak friends in through them at some time in a misspent youth.

35 posted on 07/25/2012 6:06:22 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: Trailerpark Badass

In you theater, is there perhaps an alarm on a timer so that before the movie and while the movie is playing, the door cannot be opened without an alarm sounding? Then when the movie is over, the alarm is off?

I guess this will all come to light.

If the theater operated under normal industry wide standards regarding the exit door, then they probably can’t be found at fault on these grounds.

But if it is found that it did not implement industry wide standards regarding exit doors or that the exit door mechanism was not maintained, lawyers will crucify them.


36 posted on 07/25/2012 6:20:31 PM PDT by randita (Either the politicians fix our fiscal insanity, or the markets will.)
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To: muawiyah; The Truth Will Make You Free
The witness, as I recall, didn't put a time limit on anything.

Timeline given by chief at press conference:


37 posted on 07/25/2012 6:43:57 PM PDT by QT3.14 (We live in an era with Smart Phones and Dumb People)
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To: QT3.14

That’s not the witness ~ obviously the cops are going to work up the timeline for this ~


38 posted on 07/25/2012 6:47:09 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: QT3.14

Wait a minute there QT PIE; you called that statement /sarc, I call it 100% accurate. Just wait about 6 or 8 months then you will probably see ten different docudramas and at least a movie about it. Some people are going to try to get rich off of other peoples misery, always happens.


39 posted on 07/25/2012 7:10:03 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: QT3.14

40 posted on 07/25/2012 10:44:03 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Mad Dawgg

I’ve read BS about Holmes using grant money to buy weapons. I’m very familiar with grant money spending as I sell scientific equipment to universities. Unless the Univ. of Colorado issued a purchase order to the gun shop for an AR15 after going out for competitive bids (unless Holmes wrote up a sole source justification!), there is no way that grant money could be used for weapons. Of course, he did use his personal money which probably came from some grad student paycheck, but that is still personal money even though it had a gubmint origin.


41 posted on 07/30/2012 10:03:01 AM PDT by zagger
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To: zagger
You should research the term fungible. Because the very nature of money is indeed "fungible" by the Gub'ment giving him a grant to spend on research his own money was free to spend on guns.

Same argument goes for Gub'ment money going to Planned Parenthood. Even if they earmark the money for everything BUT Abortions its still allows them to spend "other" money they would've needed elsewhere (that the Gub'ment money went towards)on abortions.

42 posted on 07/30/2012 10:42:51 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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