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Obama talks of limiting some gun use in wake of Colorado massacre
FoxNews ^ | July 25, 2012 | FoxNews

Posted on 07/25/2012 8:10:49 PM PDT by Innovative

President Obama has added his voice to the push for limits on Americans' gun use in the wake the massacre last week at a movie theater in Colorado.

Obama, speaking Wednesday evening to the National Urban League, affirmed his belief in Americans' right to own guns, but he singled out assault rifles as better suited for soldiers than civilians.

"I believe the Second Amendment guarantees an individual the right to bear arms," Obama said. "But I also believe that a lot of gun owners would agree that AK-47s belong in the hands of soldiers, not on the streets of our cities."

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Just wait until Obama's second term...
1 posted on 07/25/2012 8:11:01 PM PDT by Innovative
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2 posted on 07/25/2012 8:12:36 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Innovative

This jerk doesn’t even know what an AK is.


3 posted on 07/25/2012 8:14:40 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Innovative
Obama forgot that the British took away the Patriots guns....many being the same that the British Army owned

AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO BEAR Arms.

4 posted on 07/25/2012 8:15:35 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Innovative

This moron just like the rest of the Lib’s don’t realize that it’s the illegal guns in the hands of street hoods that are doing all the killing.


5 posted on 07/25/2012 8:17:40 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("Ambition Without Talent Is Sad - Talent Without Ambition Is Worse")
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To: Innovative

Josh Sugarmann
Violence Policy Center Director

“Assault weapons... are a new topic. The weapons’ menacing looks, coupled with the public’s confusion over fully-automatic machine guns versus semi-automatic assault weapons — anything that looks like a machine gun is assumed to be a machine gun — can only increase the chance of public support for restrictions on these weapons.”

-Josh Sugarmann, “Assault Weapons: Analysis, New Research and Legislation”, March 1989


6 posted on 07/25/2012 8:17:48 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Innovative

“Just wait until Obama’s second term... “

Yeah. In his first act he took Romney’s socialized healthcare plan and idea for an auto bailout.

Maybe in the 2nd term, he could use Romney’s assault weapons ban in Mass as a blueprint.


7 posted on 07/25/2012 8:18:17 PM PDT by vmivol00 (I won't be reconstructed.)
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To: Innovative

“but he singled out assault rifles as better suited for soldiers than civilians.”

Indeed they are more suited to the soldier. However, by a clear understanding of term “arms” used in the 2nd Ammendment. Those very “assault rifles” are protected by the 2nd Ammendment. It was the intent of the 2nd Ammendment to ensure that citizens had possesion of “military” weapons so they could defend themselves, their community, their state, and their country if called upon. The 2nd Ammendment protects the right of individual citiznes to have “military” type arms like “assault” rifles. Any other reading of the language would be ridiculous.


8 posted on 07/25/2012 8:18:39 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Innovative

Not sure if it matters anymore, but if the Founders wanted us to be able to fend off subjection why should we not have AK-47’s AND anything else that’s useful for such a purpose?


9 posted on 07/25/2012 8:18:52 PM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: Sacajaweau
The English colonies were planted in a part of North America designated by Spain's KIng Philippe II/III as a sort of refuge for European Protestants.

They, and he, already knew that your rights ~ all of them ~ rested on your right to keep and bear arms.

This place started out with rights to possess weapons, even the largest firearms.

If somebody doesn't like it he or she should go somewhere else!

10 posted on 07/25/2012 8:20:35 PM PDT by muawiyah
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“The president, however, suggested Wednesday that it “shouldn’t be controversial” to make the case that a “mentally unbalanced” person shouldn’t be able to get a gun so easily.”

So, is Obama prepared to suggest that we make people’s mental health history a public record? So, I (an FFL) will be able to check to see if my gun customer has ever been treated by a psychologist and that will be grounds for denying them their 2nd Amendment civil liberties?

Interesting. I wonder how the typically liberal members of the medical/mental health care profession will feel about that. What if the person has never been to a mental health care profession, but they’re acting “odd.” Would Obama be OK with a system where friends, parents, co-workers could report people they BELIEVE are unstable and that person would then be denied basic rights? So much for due process (not to mention the presumption of innocence and privacy concerns).

Quite a can of worms he’s kicking around there.


11 posted on 07/25/2012 8:21:00 PM PDT by stranger and pilgrim
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To: Innovative

Why Barack, I’m perfectly copacetic with banning the use of guns to shoot up an audience in a movie theater!


12 posted on 07/25/2012 8:21:18 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: avenir
"Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man gainst his own bosom. Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American...[T]he unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people."

Tenche Coxe, founding father.

/johnny

13 posted on 07/25/2012 8:21:39 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: onedoug

Obama doesn’t know what the 2nd Amendment is either — he thinks is only to preserve “hunting and shooting tradition”...

“Obama said he believes in the Second Amendment’s protection of gun rights and that that hunting and shooting are part of a “cherished national tradition.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20120725/us-presidential-campaign-guns/


14 posted on 07/25/2012 8:21:43 PM PDT by Innovative (None are so blind that will not see.)
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To: Sola Veritas

If Obama wants to read the 2nd that way I expect my own taxpayer paid AK 47 with a full supply of Ammo to be delivered by tomorrow.


15 posted on 07/25/2012 8:22:19 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Innovative
He's always had it in for us "bitter clingers".

First he's coming for our guns, then our Bibles.

He hates America.

FUBO!!!


16 posted on 07/25/2012 8:22:52 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Innovative
Obama’s soldiers (the brothers said he would side with if push came to shove) with do carry AK47s. US soldiers don't.
17 posted on 07/25/2012 8:23:12 PM PDT by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the White House)
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To: onedoug
"But I also believe that a lot of gun owners would agree that AK-47s belong in the hands of soldiers, not on the streets of our cities"

America's top gun salesman 5 years running uses reverse psychology to pump up AK-47 knockoff sales. Way to go Zer0!

18 posted on 07/25/2012 8:23:49 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: SkyDancer

“This moron just like the rest of the Lib’s don’t realize that it’s the illegal guns in the hands of street hoods that are doing all the killing.”

Oh, he definitely realizes it. That is precisely why he armed the sinaloa cartel.


19 posted on 07/25/2012 8:25:18 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Paladin2

If more decent citizens were volunteer soldiers (if that’s what having such a weapon makes them) in the troubled cities, these cities would soon become far less troubled.


20 posted on 07/25/2012 8:25:27 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: Innovative

“Obama said he believes in the Second Amendment’s protection of gun rights and that that hunting and shooting are part of a “cherished national tradition.”
____________________________________________________________

And that means he is absolutely full of shit. Because he’s all about ‘projection’ and does the ABSOLUTE OPPOSITE of what he says. Typical Commie. He doesn’t give a DAMNED about ‘American traditions’. Full STOP!!!!!!!!!!


21 posted on 07/25/2012 8:26:07 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Bocephus hits a home run! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt_vjPqAVzI)
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To: Innovative
The leftwing koo-koo base is p*ssed that the president hasn't taken full advantage of the Colorado tragedy to push their anti-2nd Amendment agenda.

Obama is obviously in trouble with them, otherwise the last thing he'd do before the election is come down on the side of gun control.

22 posted on 07/25/2012 8:26:56 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Innovative
“Just wait until Obama’s second term...”

If that comes to pass then we may need to stop talking about the Second Amendment and start exercising it. After all, this great gift that the Founding Fathers gave us is essentially worthless if we have not the courage to use it.

23 posted on 07/25/2012 8:28:31 PM PDT by Jay Redhawk (Zombies are just intelligent, good looking democrats.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

It’s always been interesting to me that the US allowed an AK-47/household in Iraq but none at home.


24 posted on 07/25/2012 8:29:04 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Innovative

Then he should take away college grants and stipends too. As it appears that Holmes used his stipend money to make his purchases for guns, ammunition, and the booby trap material in his apartment. So when they say...guns kill people, we can say...no, free money kills people.


25 posted on 07/25/2012 8:29:11 PM PDT by CitizenM (Obama - The architect of the decline of the U.S.)
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To: musicman

camel’s nose.... tent...


26 posted on 07/25/2012 8:29:30 PM PDT by man_in_tx (Islam is a Hate Crime. (Blowback: Faithfully farting towards Mecca five times daily!))
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To: Innovative

Someone needs to send the Kenyan ***hole a copy of the Bill of Rights.


27 posted on 07/25/2012 8:29:45 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Without the Second Amendment, the other twenty-six will cease to exist.)
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To: MestaMachine

Chi-Congo should tell us something. The mayor said to the gangs to not shoot kids - meaning it’s okay to off each other. I read where Rush said since the beginning of the year 270 people have been shot in Chi-Congo.


28 posted on 07/25/2012 8:32:02 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("Ambition Without Talent Is Sad - Talent Without Ambition Is Worse")
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To: avenir

Cannons (at least on ships, not sure about land) were okay for private citizens back then.


29 posted on 07/25/2012 8:32:28 PM PDT by 21twelve
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To: Innovative

Really, this is terrific... I mean, it is for “the children.”

Also, we all really need to thank the following outstanding New Yorkers for contributing to the atmosphere of hysteria that made Obamao feel safe to talk about banning weapons: 1.) Michael Bloomberg; 2) Bill O’Reilly; and 3) Michael Savage (yes, really: Michael Savage).

Let’s hear it! Thanks, guys! /s

Okay, so Savage is an “ex-” New Yorker.


30 posted on 07/25/2012 8:32:57 PM PDT by man_in_tx (Islam is a Hate Crime. (Blowback: Faithfully farting towards Mecca five times daily!))
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To: Jay Redhawk

“Just wait until Obama’s second term...”

“If that comes to pass then we may need to stop talking about the Second Amendment and start exercising it. “

I would much rather if people would do the easy and simple thing: get out and VOTE in November, making sure that Obama is not reelected — it must be easier and surer to just cast a vote for Romney, the ONLY reasonable way of ensuring that Obama won’t get another unconstrained 4 years to destroy the country as we know it.


31 posted on 07/25/2012 8:33:02 PM PDT by Innovative (None are so blind that will not see.)
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To: Innovative

Now just what would the Kenyan muslim usurper know about the 2nd Amendment?
He is NOT one of us...never was one of us and never will be one of us. He knows it and so do we.
He has no standing or credibility on this issue whatsoever.


32 posted on 07/25/2012 8:34:10 PM PDT by lgjhn23
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To: onedoug

He know it be one of the 57 states;-)


33 posted on 07/25/2012 8:34:18 PM PDT by SgtBob (Freedom is not for the faint of heart. Semper Fi!)
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To: Innovative
AK-47 wasn't mentioned as one of the firearms used in the theater shooting. From what I read, the shooter's “assault” rifle jammed and he used his Remington 870.
34 posted on 07/25/2012 8:34:18 PM PDT by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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To: Innovative

We do limit USE. It is illegal to USE them to murder people.

What Obama wants to limit is POSSESSION.


35 posted on 07/25/2012 8:34:17 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Innovative

36 posted on 07/25/2012 8:35:38 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Innovative

AK-47 in the hands of soldiers? I remember a time when the only soldiers that had AK-47 were the enemy.


37 posted on 07/25/2012 8:35:49 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: onedoug
It's downright embarrassing that the dolt does not know it is already illegal for American’s to own an AK-47 (by definition a selective fire weapon) without a Class III license.

I think he is really that dumb. He probably has never used a firearm in his life.

38 posted on 07/25/2012 8:36:55 PM PDT by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the White House)
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To: stranger and pilgrim

The Aurora shooter had no history of mental illness or criminal conduct before last week. How would Mr. Obama’s plan have stopped him?


39 posted on 07/25/2012 8:38:18 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Thanks. Good stuff.


40 posted on 07/25/2012 8:38:44 PM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: antiRepublicrat

And nobody mentions, that if there had been people carrying firearms in the first few rows, they most likely would have shot him and prevented most of the carnage.

The solution is for MORE people to carry guns and be trained to use them.


41 posted on 07/25/2012 8:39:15 PM PDT by Innovative (None are so blind that will not see.)
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To: Innovative

“”But I also believe that a lot of gun owners would agree that AK-47s belong in the hands of soldiers, not on the streets of our cities.”

Hereintheheartland believes the White House belongs in the hands of someone who has a basic understanding and respect of the Constitution; and not in the hands of a Marxist.


42 posted on 07/25/2012 8:40:35 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland ("The writing is on the wall - Unions are screwed. reformist2 10:04 PM #27")
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To: 21twelve

Interesting.


43 posted on 07/25/2012 8:41:34 PM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: Innovative
and with that alone, another few thousand guns will be sold tomorrow... salesman of the decade!!!
44 posted on 07/25/2012 8:42:59 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Remember Charlton Heston?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0B_UZNtEk4


45 posted on 07/25/2012 8:43:59 PM PDT by Innovative (None are so blind that will not see.)
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To: onedoug

never interrupt an enemy when he is making an error. What an idiot for jump into this issue right before the election.


46 posted on 07/25/2012 8:45:44 PM PDT by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: Innovative

When the police, and any military likely to be used to control American civilians, are prohibited from semi-auto armaments within our borders, I’ll agree with this fool of a President.


47 posted on 07/25/2012 8:46:39 PM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Innovative
Voting is a device that can serve as a great safety valve, and stop a nation from plunging into chaos and violence. Now, however, the nation is inhabited by dependents, idiots, and malcontented morons who have a right to vote. I fear we may be outnumbered so badly that even if we get a great conservative turn out, to vote for a RINO, we may have no chance of beating the lord of the plantation.
48 posted on 07/25/2012 8:47:45 PM PDT by Jay Redhawk (Zombies are just intelligent, good looking democrats.)
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To: Innovative

The Founder's Intent

49 posted on 07/25/2012 8:49:09 PM PDT by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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To: 21twelve; avenir


50 posted on 07/25/2012 8:49:14 PM PDT by Iron Munro ("Jiggle the Handle for Barry!")
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