Skip to comments.Obama: "Our Union May Not Be Perfect, But It Is Perfectible"
Posted on 07/26/2012 5:03:06 AM PDT by Sir NapsalotEdited on 07/26/2012 5:04:30 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
"And I confess the progress didn't come quickly, and it did not come easily," President Obama said about his time as a community organizer in Chicago. "Sometimes it didn't come at all. There were times where I thought about giving up and moving on. But what kept me going day in and day out was the same thing that has sustained the Urban League all these years. The same thing that sustains all of you. And that is the belief that in America, change is always possible. That our union may not be perfect, but it is perfectible."
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"What Is Perfection?"
"By Whose Standard?"
Thinking that human institutions can be perfected is a sign of godlessness.
Yes, and I'm looking forward to a big change in November!
Dear Obama...Please don’t refer to it as “our”. You belong in kenya. A village there has reported a missing idiot and would welcome your return.
“Progress” and “progressivism” is code for the erosion of Constitutinoally guaranteed freedoms and the rise of collectivism, Marxism, communism, central planning, and authoritarian rule by people who believe they are smarter than the great unwashed. This language allows an enemy of the state to hide in plain site using the term “progressive”. We have enemies both foreign and domestic within the White Crib.
“our union may not be perfect, but it is perfectible”
To consider it and then allow such a statement to come out of one’s mouth in front of others is a clear example of perfect stupidity.
I question also, Sir Napsalot ... by who's standards.
The Biblical definition of 'perfect' means, mature.
zero is the epitome of a boy king, no where NEAR mature.
Yahoo search results for "Fundamentally Transforming The United States Of America":
"Change will not come if we wait for some other person or if we wait for some other time. We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that we seek"-- BARACK OBAMA
From the website of the Communist Party, USA...
(prior to the election)
"The Communist Party USA views the 2008 elections as a tremendous opportunity to defeat the policies of the right-wing Republicans and to move our country in a new progressive direction.
The record turnout in the Democratic Presidential primary races shows that millions of voters, including millions of new voters, are using this election to bring about real change. We wholeheartedly agree with them."
After the election....
A Landslide Mandate For Change
A breakthrough election
Congratulations on an extraordinary history making election!
We can think back with pride to decades of hard work toward our strategic goal of a big enough, broad enough and united enough labor and all-peoples movement that could overcome the ultra-right blockage to all progress. That all peoples movement has come to life, it is dynamic and it has the potential to keep growing.
The election of Barack Obama and a strengthened Congress creates new conditions in our country. There is now the possibility to shift gears and move forward. This new day requires us to further develop our tactics in order to continue to deepen and broaden labor and peoples unity.
There are thousands of experiences that we all have had in these momentous days, some large, some small, all of which express the enormity of change in thinking and readiness for involvement that is underway and that steels us for the battles ahead.
The tears of joy we all shared as crowds gathered to watch the election results here and throughout the world dramatize the new moment we are in.
July 1, 2009...
Change is Here, Change is Coming
Sam Webb, National Chair, Communist Party, USA:
Let me begin with a simple observation: If the last 30 years were an era of reaction, then the coming decade could turn into an era of reform, even radical reform. Six months into the Obama presidency, I would say without hesitation that the landscape, atmosphere, conversation, and agenda have strikingly changed compared to the previous eight years.
In this legislative session, we can envision winning a Medicare-like public option and then going further in the years ahead.
We can visualize passing tough regulatory reforms on the financial industry, which brought the economy to ruin.
We can imagine the troops coming home from Iraq and Afghanistan while U.S. representatives participate in a regional process that brings peace and stability to the entire region.
In the current political climate, the expansion of union rights becomes a real possibility.
Much the same can be said about winning a second stimulus bill, and we sure need one, given the still-rising rate, and likely long term persistence, of unemployment.
Isnt it possible in the Obama era to create millions of green jobs in manufacturing and other sectors of the economy in tandem with an attack on global warming?
Cant we envision taking new strides in the long journey for racial and gender equality in this new era, marked at its beginning by the election of the first African American to the presidency?
And isnt the overhaul of the criminal justice and prison system a system steeped in racism no longer pie-in-the sky, but something that can be done in the foreseeable future?
All these things are within reach now!
"Barack Obama told supporters that
'change has come to America' as he
claimed victory in a historic presidential election."
I do not want any improvements advocated by someone who thinks “you didn’t build your business” or “when you spread the wealth around, everyone benefits” or married to someone who is “proud of America for the first time” only when her husband is a candidate for the White House.
I want improvements favored by those who think the Constitution is the greatest secular document in human history and that nothing done by the collective is a match for individual initiative unleashed when individual freedom is respected. Unfortunately, Sarah, Newt, Fred, the Ricks, Herman, Jim, and the other good options are not available this year. I’ll settle for Mitt, grudgingly.
"The tears of joy we all shared as crowds gathered to watch the election results here and throughout the world dramatize the new moment we are in."
Obama State of the Union: He got the ball rolling:
From the Washington Times, April 30, 2012:
New Obama slogan has long ties to Marxism, socialism
Many Communist and radical publications and entities throughout the 19th and 20th centuries had the name "Forward!" or its foreign cognates. Wikipedia has [since deleted] an entire section called "Forward (generic name of socialist publications)."
"The name Forward carries a special meaning in socialist political terminology. It has been frequently used as a name for socialist, communist and other left-wing newspapers and publications," the online encyclopedia explains.
The slogan "Forward!" reflected the conviction of European Marxists and radicals that their movements reflected the march of history, which would move forward past capitalism and into socialism and communism.
The Obama campaign released its new campaign slogan Monday in a 7-minute video. The title card has simply the word "Forward" with the "O" having the familiar Obama logo from 2008. It will be played at rallies this weekend that mark the Obama re-election campaign's official beginning. ..."
"In a private conversation about the planned U.S.-led NATO missile defense system in Europe, President Barack Obama asked outgoing Russian President Dmitry Medvedev for space on the issue.
This is my last election, Obama told Medvedev. After my election I have more flexibility.
I understand. I will transmit this information to Vladimir, Medvedev said, referring to incoming President Vladimir Putin."
Obama was talking with Russian President Dmitry Medvedev when neither of them realized that their conversation was being picked up by microphones. Here is what they said:
Obama: On all these issues, but particularly missile defense, this, this can be solved, but its important for him to give me space.
Medvedev: Yeah, I understand. I understand your message about space. Space for you ...
Obama: This is my last election. After my election, I have more flexibility.
Medvedev: I understand. I will transmit this information to Vladimir.
This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility. That statement tells us much about the presidents mindset.
The specific mention of missile defense is worrisome enough. Mr. Obama has retreated from the missile defense plan that was negotiated with European allies during the George W. Bush administration. Apparently, he is signaling Moscow that he intends to retreat further. The clear implication from the presidents comments is that he cannot tell the American people before the election what he plans to do after the election.
In addition, there is the phrase on all these issues, implying more is at stake than just missile defense.
Article: Obama plans double cross on missile defense
When it comes to keeping America safe, we shouldnt be too flexible:
Police State = Perfection
Looking at Chicago today Obama truly is an absolute failure. Not sure what he thinks he accomplished.
When you use words like "failure" you have to keep in mind that the commie's goal is to destroy the America we know. ie, "Change", "Fundamental Transformation", "Forward", etc, etc.
Communists who attempt to create a “perfect” society typically run up huge body counts in the process. There is no perfection in this world.
Straight out of Marx I believe.
Perfecting the "union" requires perfecting it's members. Hitler had that goal as well and you know how that worked out. Lenin and Stalin had a similar solution: just kill off those who don't accept your system and slowly but surely the populace and the "union" will be "perfected". Well that didn't work out either.
Humans aren't perfectible. Liberals believe they are and they believe they have the necessary knowledge to guide us to that perfection. In fact they have demonstrated time and again a tragic lack of a basic understanding of human nature and human motivation. Obama is just the latest example of that failure. And our nation is poorer as a result. Four more years of Obama will make us poorer yet.
Hey Hussein - The longer YOU'RE running it, the LESS I want to be a part of it!
“...but it is perfectible.”
Totalitarianism is not only hell, but all the dream of paradise— the age-old dream of a world where everybody would live in harmony, united by a single common will and faith, without secrets from one another. Andre Breton, too, dreamed of this paradise when he talked about the glass house in which he longed to live. If totalitarianism did not exploit these archetypes, which are deep inside us all and rooted deep in all religions, it could never attract so many people, especially during the early phases of its existence. Once the dream of paradise starts to turn into reality, however, here and there people begin to crop up who stand in its way. and so the rulers of paradise must build a little gulag on the side of Eden. In the course of time this gulag grows ever bigger and more perfect, while the adjoining paradise gets even smaller and poorer.
If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary.
Mere words can not express my contempt and disdain for this failed, marxist, pusillanimous pustule of a community organizer who somehow managed, with deceit and manipulation of people’s basest emotions, the position of “Leader of the Free World”.
I am so DISGUSTED.
Your culture will be adapted to service us. Resistance is futile!
Another spectacularly self-revealing blunder by 0. The perfectibility of society is at the core of such socialist/leftist dogma as the Port Huron Statement, which was a major milestone on the path of the Students for a Democratic Society and similar radical organizations that led to campus violence, draft dodging, anti-war agitation and ultimately, America’s humiliating loss of Vietnam.
One can draw another connecting line on the chart showing Obama’s web of connections with socialist radical ideology, groups and individuals straight from his latest comments and back to Port Huron, SDS and what he really means when he says “we want to fundamentally change the United States”. Another connection? SDS leader, Weather Underground terrorist and Obama pal, Bill Ayers.
The only specific community organizing I’ve ever heard Obama talk about was when he ran a jobs fair, to which not a single person showed up, even though youths were playing basketball on the street outside.
I’d love to see the list of his greatest achievements as a community organizer.
Not true — Satan was an angel before the fall.
Yeah. Utopia. What could possibly go wrong?
Pol Pot's "Year Zero", perhaps?
Zerobama-Nomics has this country well on the road to a peasant economy, and Zerobama "care" will remove those pesky unborn, sick and elderly who dare to clutter up Obama-Topia.
Religion is under direct assault, and under Zero's reign, the US Constitution is being "perfected" (aka ignored).
God help America.
Holy carp, first reply nailed it. A demonstrable sign of godlessness.
The equivalent of dusting off Tim McVeigh or Major Hassan and turning them into "respected" professors and presidential pals.
“As you can see, Marxian thought regards human beings as perfectible and human goodness as suppressed and distorted by existing society.”
Let me guess: We just need four more years of 0blama and implementation of 0bammiecare, then it’ll be perfect. All those others who’ve tried this marxist experiment just didn’t do it right; THIS time for sure!
The last refuge of a liberal- hope for perfection in their own eyes.
He threatened to sue Citibank for redlining mortgages.
Then we had the housing bubble.
“There were times where I thought about giving up and moving on.”...
Don’t let the door hit you in the ass...
GraceG’s Law: All “Utopias” are by definition “Dystopias”.
This is the most fundamental error in Marxist thought and philosophy. Marx was wrong about this and, as a result, the whole Marxist system falls like a house of cards. It requires perfectible humans. There aren't any.
It’s kind of silly for him to be pushing for change when he is the incumbent...
Imperfect people create an imperfect society, which must then be overthrown by other imperfect people, who create another imperfect society...
It would be a futile exercise, indeed, were it not for the existence of the chosen few, who have already achieved perfection (Obama, of course, comes to mind). These saviors of mankind, due to their unique brilliance and superior consciousness, are perfectly equipped (in their own minds) to lead (or force) the rest of us along the path to utopia. /s
ALL schemes to perfect mankind through forcible government actions have ultimately led to tyranny and murder. Why would OBozo's scheme turn out any differently?
one only has to look at history to see where the liberals are moving to in this country.
Course may will deny it, many have no clue about it but follow based on their emotion but we only have to look at their NAZI tactics right now towards chick=fi=a.
What the far left are doing is boycotting, imtimidating, using power to stop them pening like Boston ,Chicago .
Control the message, use their power in the media to not imnform on the truth.
It’s so frigging obvious that the NAZI’s did the same to the Jews . The only thing different right now is death camps etc.
Nazi thuggery by the homostapo and the far left and sadly many on the far left or the left can’t even see past their emotion or their e-mail from move on.org
Another crazy statement that sums up in one sentence who Obama really is.
This is straight out Utopianism.
Not sure how one can claim to be Christian and advocate Utopianism at the same time?
FRom the mouths of babes.. Our _Resident CommieCzar lets it rip.
Oh, and it is anti-American,too. The idea that perfection is possible is a BIG lie.
The founders knew this and is why it is the pursuit of happiness and not perfection.
Decades ago. The first official mark goes back to the early 1970s. The birth of the modern environmental movement. Are you aware that the protection of the environment was placed as the most important issue more than freedom, sovereignty of nations environmentalism became the fixture of a full on assault against any nations own self determination.
Those who have spoken out against Agenda 21 and there have been members of the military and intelligence communities who have they understood the implications. These people are not conspiracy nuts. These people are patriots who understand the threat. The country the United States, is under siege. It has been going on for a long time. Decades of planning. And now the planning stage is being transitioned into the implementation stage. Right now. Its happening now.
WSI: And you are absolutely convinced of that? Its happening now the election of Barack Obama was the signal? Implementation of this globalization plan commenced at that time? Fully commenced? Right?
MI: Yes sir.
UM: How? (Pause) The implementation? How does that work. By force? Using our own military against us?
MI: No. That would be too much of a risk most of our military personnel are good men and women. They signed up. They took an oath. And they are doing their job. Remember, I indicated some inside the military were part of this globalization movement. Not all. Not most. But some.
UM: But some of these inside the military they have influence?
MI: Yes. Appointed to positions of authority. By this administration.