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Rinos and liberals are trying to roll back the gains in Wisconsin by administratively requiring more than the law does to obtain a CCW.

Wisconsin came close to Constitutional carry last year, and that is the direction they are more likely to move toward.

One correction: Wisconsin reached 118,000 permits in 8 months at most. The system will have been in place 9 months at the first of August.

1 posted on 07/26/2012 7:50:19 AM PDT by marktwain
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---Ron Stacy has 92 hours under his belt -- far more than the recommended four hours and he's still learning. "I think all the training you can get would be what you need," said Stacy, who believes you should train for more than minimum of four hours.--

--heavy thinker of the morning award----(sarc)

2 posted on 07/26/2012 7:55:44 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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How much training does it take to stick a gun in a robber’s belly and pull the trigger? You can substitute rapist or ax-murderer for robber, if you prefer.

How long should you need to wait before being allowed to defend yourself?

Being truly proficient with a handgun can be a lifelong pursuit. Does that mean no one still breathing should be allowed to defend themselves?


3 posted on 07/26/2012 7:57:51 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Liberalism: "Ex faslo quodlibet" - from falseness, anything follows)
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Guess the printer messed up on my copy of the Bill of Rights because the Second Amendment I have makes no reference to a training requirement...hope I can get a refund...:-)

The admin morons trying to write regs that have no basis in the law are asking to get their hats handed to them by a judge.


4 posted on 07/26/2012 8:06:43 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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Do you have a reason to be so optimistic about Constitutional Carry?


6 posted on 07/26/2012 9:36:14 AM PDT by Principle Over Politics
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This does point out a problem, but more a cultural problem.

Wisconsin has been without gun liberty for so long that the “familial gun culture” has been lost. This is the passing of gun knowledge from generation to generation, and is important for the proper use and maintenance of firearms.

However, this is mostly just an assumption on the part of the public.

Importantly, Arizona ignored this, figuring the public is responsible enough to figure it out themselves, and they are right. However, this being said, eventually it benefits us all if some voluntary means exists to get a high level of gun training.

This is so that, even though most everyone can be a gun user, we need more gun experts, not just gun professionals, but people who understand things such as “the legal environment”, gun tactics, guns as a part of martial arts, when to use guns and when not to use them, etc. Even “gun fitters”, to help people figure out which guns are best for them as individuals.

But requiring it? Not so much.

The idea is to culturally reintegrate guns into American life. Why not have marksmanship clubs in schools? Why not have gun ranges in municipal areas, even if they are mostly underground (literally) in industrial parks? Why not raise girls to have guns as part of their ordinary wardrobe?


7 posted on 07/26/2012 9:45:07 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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