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Electoral College tie possible in Obama-Romney race
CNN ^ | July 26 2012 | Peter Hamby

Posted on 07/26/2012 11:47:52 AM PDT by ElPaseo

An Electoral College tie.

It's the white whale of American elections: elusive, mythical and never realized. But could it finally happen this year?

The likelihood that President Barack Obama and Mitt Romney will each net 269 electoral votes in November, instead of the 270 needed to win, is actually not so farfetched -- and for close observers of the Electoral College system, a tie would set off a wave of constitutional and political mayhem that would make the 2000 Florida recount seem like a tidy affair.

Check out the CNN electoral map and calculator

Election results in key states would immediately be subject to legal challenges. Electors, normally an anonymous batch of party insiders elected to ratify each state's winner with their electoral votes, would be lobbied to change their votes by friends, neighbors and political leaders.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012election; electoral; electoralcollege

1 posted on 07/26/2012 11:47:59 AM PDT by ElPaseo
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To: ElPaseo

Fine by me so long as the GOP holds the House.


2 posted on 07/26/2012 11:51:44 AM PDT by pogo101
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To: ElPaseo

Another reason to make sure Romney wins by a huge amount. Don’t allow Democrats to make this another fight that tears this country apart further.


3 posted on 07/26/2012 11:56:25 AM PDT by RC2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDMeDmV0ufU)
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To: pogo101
The House would vote by State, a majority in the delegation counting as 1 vote. 26 State delegations for 1 candidate needed to be elected.

I think it would be lopsided because the number of rats in California, Illinois, Mass and NY delegations against a big polarity of republicans in the remainder.

4 posted on 07/26/2012 12:00:18 PM PDT by AU72
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To: ElPaseo

Any tie is a win for Obama and the Democrats. In fact, any win for the Republicans that is even close to a tie is a win for the Democrats.


5 posted on 07/26/2012 12:01:28 PM PDT by webheart (King of the Run-On Sentence)
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To: pogo101

I just call it bad karma for mittens after his tie in Michigan.


6 posted on 07/26/2012 12:04:19 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: AU72

From which congress (old or new) would a house be, were it to vote for president?


7 posted on 07/26/2012 12:05:54 PM PDT by C210N ("ask not what the candidate can do for you, ask what you can do for the candidate" (Breitbart, 2012))
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To: ElPaseo

Only in an election where the dead rise up and vote along with the 12-50 million illegas as well as the dual-stated Democrats, felons, Unionistas, regular Democrats in non-ID states, etc.

We all know the Democrat Motto: “If you can’t vote at least THREE OR FOUR times for ‘our guy,’ you don’t deserve the free crap we give you in your paycheck for doing nothing.”


8 posted on 07/26/2012 12:06:39 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: RC2

Dont blame the Democrats...

heyre not the ones who forced Willard on us...

even if he is one of them...


9 posted on 07/26/2012 12:07:20 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: pogo101

Even in the extremely unlikely chance the Rats take over the House from the Nov. elections it won’t make any difference. The GOP will control the House if any Presidential vote were required.


10 posted on 07/26/2012 12:11:02 PM PDT by HenpeckedCon (What pi$$es me off the most is that POS commie will get a State Funeral!)
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To: RC2
Don’t allow Democrats to make this another fight that tears this country apart further.

That's all part of the progressive plan.

Count on it.

Coming soon from the producers of "Colonial Insurrection" and "War Between The States"

CW 2

Everywhere - Spring 2013


11 posted on 07/26/2012 12:11:07 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (Another day. Another small provocation. Another step closer.)
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To: AU72

I assume you mean lopsided for Romney. All those ‘rats in California and New York won’t help. California just gets one vote here. There should be many more states with republican majorities. Someone should do the actual work and check what it would look like. Of course, the greatest danger is some stupid ass electoror would pull a John Roberts and vote against his state. Also, I think some states are not winner-take-all. A lot of variables here.


12 posted on 07/26/2012 12:12:38 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: Tennessee Nana

We need a lot less concentration on the democrats and a lot more concentration on fixing our own party.


13 posted on 07/26/2012 12:12:41 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek
When you end up running a candidate who is popular with less than 20% of the party, and then only within a single coalition partner you have a really serious problem that needs fixed.
14 posted on 07/26/2012 12:25:07 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: RC2; Diogenesis

“Another reason to make sure Romney wins by a huge amount. Don’t allow Democrats to make this another fight that tears this country apart further.”

Haven’t you heard? You’re supposed to vote for a third party candidate that has no hope of winning so we can keep a clear conscience and teach the GOP a lesson. Get with the program...just as diogenesis about it.


15 posted on 07/26/2012 12:28:10 PM PDT by MissouriConservative (Voting Anyone but Obama in 2012.)
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To: MissouriConservative

If the House has to step in and elect Romney, it won’t be the bloody shirt of Bush v. Gore. It will be an entire bloody laundry for Democrats.


16 posted on 07/26/2012 12:32:48 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: AU72

As the article points out, each state delegations gets one vote, and the GOP currently controls 33 state delegations, while the Dems only control 16. So if the election were an electoral tie, Romney would win. The question would be the VP election, as that is decided by the Senate. Since it would be the new Senate voting, it would depend upon if the GOP took the majority after the election.


17 posted on 07/26/2012 12:38:34 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: ElPaseo

The real polling must be pretty bad for Zero if now the best they can hope for is a tie.


18 posted on 07/26/2012 12:40:00 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: AU72

If you mean that the “tie breaker mode” House would be even more lopsidedly GOP than the “individual members voting” House is, then, yup. The GOP would not only have to lose the majority but also lose perhaps 30 additional seats to lose its “state delegations” majority, although I haven’t tallied the states one by one. (Presumably there may be a handful that would be “ties.”)


19 posted on 07/26/2012 12:42:18 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: ElPaseo

Sounds fun to speculate about... in theory.

But in reality, in the event of a tie Obama would demand recounts in one of the close states Romney won until he finally got a count showing that he got more votes. Then they’d stop counting, certify the results, and declare Obama the winner.

It would be a replay of the Minnesota Senate race from a few years back, which Franken finally “won” against Coleman.


20 posted on 07/26/2012 1:05:26 PM PDT by Random_User_250
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To: muawiyah

I just think Romney’s conservative support has peaked and all he can do it hope to pull liberals to his side. Its a dangerous maneuver to try when conservatives are considerably less than enthusiastic.

I wish he had done the right thing when it was so clear that voters wanted someone who isn’t Mitt Romney. Unfortunately he’s spent the past decade running for president and convincing himself that its his turn and the little people be damned.


21 posted on 07/26/2012 1:10:03 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: ElPaseo; AU72; Allegra; big'ol_freeper; Lil'freeper; TrueKnightGalahad; blackie; Larry Lucido; ...
Re: The House would vote by State, a majority in the delegation counting as 1 vote. 26 State delegations for 1 candidate needed to be elected.

I count more than 26 states in Mitt's camp... let the booze flow!!!!!

22 posted on 07/26/2012 1:13:12 PM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: ElPaseo

We’ve heard this for a few cycles now. I think it’s boilerplate to run for a bored media on a slow political news day.


23 posted on 07/26/2012 1:49:12 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Pontius Pilate 'voters' are arrogant, delusional, lilly-livered collaborators.)
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To: webheart; All
Any tie is a win for Obama and the Democrats. In fact, any win for the Republicans that is even close to a tie is a win for the Democrats.

THIS. The damage done to the Bush presidency before he was even sworn in can never been calculated. Even after 9/11, he was an "error," a "stolen" presidency. Al Gore did phenomenal harm to the body politic.

24 posted on 07/26/2012 1:55:18 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Pontius Pilate 'voters' are arrogant, delusional, lilly-livered collaborators.)
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To: ElPaseo

The election will not be close.

Don’t worry about this.

Worry about enough Republican voters (especially conservatives if Mitt does an “Etch-a-Sketch”) staying home to allow the fraudulent Democrat votes to prevail. Those 11-20 million illegal aliens will be voting in large numbers, all democrat.


25 posted on 07/26/2012 1:55:58 PM PDT by oldbill
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To: newzjunkey
If there is an electoral college tie, Obama will win--all it takes is for one Republican elector to be blackmailed or bribed into changing his vote. It's only the Democratic side that would have the nerve and the shamelessness to engage in such tactics.

If Pat Buchanan had not been on the ballot in Florida, Bush's margin would probably have been too great for Gore to think he could steal Florida's electoral votes, so we would have been spared the 36 days of recounts. Nixon, for all his faults, put the country first in 1960. Gore put his own ambition ahead of the national interest in 2000.

RFK Jr., the now-newly-bereaved widower, tried to claim that Bush stole the 2004 election too--Bush's margin of popular votes in Ohio was about what JFK's margin was in the whole country in 1960, but RFK Jr. alleged assorted Republican dirty tricks stole Ohio from Kerry.

26 posted on 07/26/2012 2:19:04 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: C210N

Incoming House of Representatives, voting as a bloc, each state getting one vote.


27 posted on 07/26/2012 3:05:12 PM PDT by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: ElPaseo

There are more than twenty six states with Republican majorities in their congressional delegations. Romney would easily be elected under the 269-269 scenario.


28 posted on 07/26/2012 3:18:00 PM PDT by Combat_Liberalism
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To: ElPaseo

Grab another straw; that one is a bit slippery.


29 posted on 07/27/2012 5:00:47 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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