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U.S. considers dipping flag at opening ceremony
Reuters via Yahoo News ^ | 7/26/12 | Steve Keating

Posted on 07/26/2012 2:02:46 PM PDT by Kartographer

The United States may break with a controversial tradition and dip its flag to Britain's leaders at the opening ceremony for the London Olympics, U.S. Olympic Committee (USOC) CEO Scott Blackmun said on Thursday.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: 1776; britishbarry; flag; grandoldflag; itsjustaeffinflag; naturalborncitizen; naturalbornsubject; oldglory2012olympics; olympics; royals; theflag; usflag; usoc
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This should send the Founders not just rolling in their graves, but raising up out of them!!!
1 posted on 07/26/2012 2:02:53 PM PDT by Kartographer
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To: Kartographer

“This flag dips to no earthly king.”


2 posted on 07/26/2012 2:04:21 PM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: Kartographer

That is... I don’t know what to say.

As a citizen and a member of We The People, I not only demand answers, but I want every last person complicit in this idea, from the President down to the janitor, to account for their involvement and be imprisoned.

This casts America in a light not seen since before 1776.

We’re moving backwards, people.


3 posted on 07/26/2012 2:04:39 PM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Kartographer

What’s this, Obama trying to make up for the Churchill bust and the cheap DVD set?


4 posted on 07/26/2012 2:05:25 PM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: Kartographer

We’re on British soil, so I don’t think I have an issue with this. It would be done out of respect for the host country, not to demean us.

If the games were here, then no way.


5 posted on 07/26/2012 2:05:50 PM PDT by SandyInSeattle (Running in circles and screaming is not a strategy.)
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To: JennysCool

I frickin’ knew this was going to happen. Bet Michelle “All this for a damn flag” called them and told them to dip the flag.


6 posted on 07/26/2012 2:06:44 PM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: Kartographer

Why not send that dip Obama - to bow to Great Britain’s leaders?

We’re used to that.


7 posted on 07/26/2012 2:07:26 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Kartographer

Why don’t they have Obama leading the procession; bowing and apologizing to all other countries as he walks by?

SCREW THIS. Raise the damn flag HIGHER when you pass the Queen (and I mean THE Queen not Obama the limp wristed metrosexual).


8 posted on 07/26/2012 2:07:30 PM PDT by Made In The USA (Can we cut the BS and just say it like it is?)
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To: SandyInSeattle
We’re on British soil, so I don’t think I have an issue with this. It would be done out of respect for the host country, not to demean us.

We didn't do it for Hitler, we didn't do it for King George in 1948, we didn't do it for the ChiComs in 2008, so why start now?

9 posted on 07/26/2012 2:08:01 PM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: Kartographer

USOC weenies make me wanna puke.


10 posted on 07/26/2012 2:08:23 PM PDT by Amagi (Chief Justice John Roberts is a traitorous weasel.)
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To: Kartographer

Why, it’s just like Obama bowing to all those foreign rulers. An apology. In this case it would be an apology for daring to depart the Empire.


11 posted on 07/26/2012 2:08:31 PM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: dfwgator

If the flag bearer is a patriot, they won’t dip.


12 posted on 07/26/2012 2:08:43 PM PDT by firebasecody (Orthodoxy, proclaiming the Truth since AD 33)
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To: Kartographer
HELL NO!!!! 



Genuflectimus non ad principem sed ad Principem Pacis!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

13 posted on 07/26/2012 2:09:31 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: Amagi

I hope they just threw that out as a trial balloon to gauge the reaction.


14 posted on 07/26/2012 2:09:39 PM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: SandyInSeattle
"We recognize no Sovereign but God, and no King but Jesus!”

April 18, 1775, on the eve of the Revolutionary War after a British major ordered John Adams, John Hancock, and those with them to disperse in: “In the name of George the Sovereign King of England."
15 posted on 07/26/2012 2:09:39 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

We would never dip our flag to England. After all, they aren’t a mooslim country....


16 posted on 07/26/2012 2:11:14 PM PDT by Sporke (USS Iowa BB-61)
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To: Clint N. Suhks; advertising guy; HonestConservative; WorkerbeeCitizen; Fudd Fan; holdonnow; ...

HOLY CARP PINGS!

THis is freakin UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!! Not to mention a slap in the face to ALL military past and present that died for that flag!!!!!

Gawddamned politically correct liberal pieces of crap!!

(now where did I put that pitchfork...........)


17 posted on 07/26/2012 2:11:25 PM PDT by MagUSNRET
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To: Kartographer

No .... if you’re going to do that, just give up the pretense of being a once great country and go “whole hog” with the bowing & scraping thing. Mooschelle will be leading the Olympic contingent and she can stand in for Obozo when it comes to bending over - she’s got enough junk in the trunk to make a real ‘statement’.


18 posted on 07/26/2012 2:11:25 PM PDT by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: saganite

Obama Family’s Fault.

NO.. NO .. and HELL NO.


19 posted on 07/26/2012 2:12:35 PM PDT by Surrounded_too
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To: Sporke
But they're getting there, Shipmate! 



Genuflectimus non ad principem sed ad Principem Pacis!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

20 posted on 07/26/2012 2:12:39 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: Kartographer

The evil regime insists that we are just another run of the mill country and they will destroy it to prove themselves right.


21 posted on 07/26/2012 2:14:26 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Sporke
We would never dip our flag to England. After all, they aren’t a mooslim country....

Sadly, they're well on their way to becoming one.

22 posted on 07/26/2012 2:14:39 PM PDT by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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To: Kartographer

I see Obama’s dirty hands on this. Hillary’s too.


23 posted on 07/26/2012 2:16:33 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: Kartographer
This is outrageous. As an ex-US Navy sailor, a US Naval vessel never dips its colors to another ship except in response to a salute, or after the foreign ship dips its colors first.
24 posted on 07/26/2012 2:16:38 PM PDT by vortigern
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To: Kartographer

It will make a great Romney campaign ad. First show Obama bowing to the Saudi king, then the flag dipping in front of that clown Prince Charles, and then a line of unemployed Americans. Voters will get the message.


25 posted on 07/26/2012 2:17:15 PM PDT by allendale
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To: Surrounded_too

The flag bearer better not do it or she is going to hear about it the rest of her life and be boo’d wherever she goes. She may crack up and be institutionalized over this mistake.


26 posted on 07/26/2012 2:17:41 PM PDT by Surrounded_too
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To: dfwgator

Just send Obama over to prostrate himself.

He’s had plenty of practice


27 posted on 07/26/2012 2:17:45 PM PDT by BigOrangeI (The Constitution says "promote the general welfare" NOT provide the general welfare.)
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To: Kartographer

Flag Etiquette
STANDARDS of RESPECT
The Flag Code, which formalizes and unifies the traditional ways in which we give respect to the flag, also contains specific instructions on how the flag is not to be used. They are:

The flag should never be dipped to any person or thing. It is flown upside down only as a distress signal.
The flag should not be used as a drapery, or for covering a speakers desk, draping a platform, or for any decoration in general. Bunting of blue, white and red stripes is available for these purposes. The blue stripe of the bunting should be on the top.
The flag should never be used for any advertising purpose. It should not be embroidered, printed or otherwise impressed on such articles as cushions, handkerchiefs, napkins, boxes, or anything intended to be discarded after temporary use. Advertising signs should not be attached to the staff or halyard
The flag should not be used as part of a costume or athletic uniform, except that a flag patch may be used on the uniform of military personnel, fireman, policeman and members of patriotic organizations.
The flag should never have placed on it, or attached to it, any mark, insignia, letter, word, number, figure, or drawing of any kind.
The flag should never be used as a receptacle for receiving, holding, carrying, or delivering anything.
When the flag is lowered, no part of it should touch the ground or any other object; it should be received by waiting hands and arms. To store the flag it should be folded neatly and ceremoniously.

The flag should be cleaned and mended when necessary.

When a flag is so worn it is no longer fit to serve as a symbol of our country, it should be destroyed by burning in a dignified manner.

Note: Most American Legion Posts regularly conduct a dignified flag burning ceremony, often on Flag Day, June 14th. Many Cub Scout Packs, Boy Scout Troops, and Girl Scout Troops retire flags regularly as well. Contact your local American Legion Hall or Scout Troop to inquire about the availability of this service.

Displaying the Flag Outdoors
When the flag is displayed from a staff projecting from a window, balcony, or a building, the union should be at the peak of the staff unless the flag is at half staff.

When it is displayed from the same flagpole with another flag - of a state, community, society or Scout unit - the flag of the United States must always be at the top except that the church pennant may be flown above the flag during church services for Navy personnel when conducted by a Naval chaplain on a ship at sea.

When the flag is displayed over a street, it should be hung vertically, with the union to the north or east. If the flag is suspended over a sidewalk, the flag’s union should be farthest from the building.

When flown with flags of states, communities, or societies on separate flag poles which are of the same height and in a straight line, the flag of the United States is always placed in the position of honor - to its own right.
..The other flags may be smaller but none may be larger.
..No other flag ever should be placed above it.
..The flag of the United States is always the first flag raised and the last to be lowered.

When flown with the national banner of other countries, each flag must be displayed from a separate pole of the same height. Each flag should be the same size. They should be raised and lowered simultaneously. The flag of one nation may not be displayed above that of another nation.

Raising and Lowering the Flag
The flag should be raised briskly and lowered slowly and ceremoniously. Ordinarily it should be displayed only between sunrise and sunset. It should be illuminated if displayed at night.
The flag of the United States of America is saluted as it is hoisted and lowered. The salute is held until the flag is unsnapped from the halyard or through the last note of music, whichever is the longest.

Displaying the Flag Indoors
When on display, the flag is accorded the place of honor, always positioned to its own right. Place it to the right of the speaker or staging area or sanctuary. Other flags should be to the left.

The flag of the United States of America should be at the center and at the highest point of the group when a number of flags of states, localities, or societies are grouped for display.

When one flag is used with the flag of the United States of America and the staffs are crossed, the flag of the United States is placed on its own right with its staff in front of the other flag.

When displaying the flag against a wall, vertically or horizontally, the flag’s union (stars) should be at the top, to the flag’s own right, and to the observer’s left.

Parading and Saluting the Flag
When carried in a procession, the flag should be to the right of the marchers. When other flags are carried, the flag of the United States may be centered in front of the others or carried to their right. When the flag passes in a procession, or when it is hoisted or lowered, all should face the flag and salute.

The Salute
To salute, all persons come to attention. Those in uniform give the appropriate formal salute. Citizens not in uniform salute by placing their right hand over the heart and men with head cover should remove it and hold it to left shoulder, hand over the heart. Members of organizations in formation salute upon command of the person in charge.

The Pledge of Allegiance and National Anthem
The pledge of allegiance should be rendered by standing at attention, facing the flag, and saluting.
When the national anthem is played or sung, citizens should stand at attention and salute at the first note and hold the salute through the last note. The salute is directed to the flag, if displayed, otherwise to the music.

The Flag in Mourning
To place the flag at half staff, hoist it to the peak for an instant and lower it to a position half way between the top and bottom of the staff. The flag is to be raised again to the peak for a moment before it is lowered. On Memorial Day the flag is displayed at half staff until noon and at full staff from noon to sunset.

The flag is to be flown at half staff in mourning for designated, principal government leaders and upon presidential or gubernatorial order.

When used to cover a casket, the flag should be placed with the union at the head and over the left shoulder. It should not be lowered into the grave.


28 posted on 07/26/2012 2:17:56 PM PDT by AmusedBystander (The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next)
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To: Kartographer; mickie
"U.S. considers dipping flag......"

I'm not at all surprised to see this grotesquerie emanating from our DIPSTICK president.

Leni

29 posted on 07/26/2012 2:19:31 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: SandyInSeattle

It’s no disrespect to anyone to not dip the flag. It simply respects our flag and what it stands for. Has any host country been offended for that reason since 1936?


30 posted on 07/26/2012 2:20:05 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: Kartographer

I hope that they do not do this. Not lowering our flag to any living sovereign is sacred to me. Why would we even consider this? This would be a horrible precedent. This is just plain wrong. What has happened to us?


31 posted on 07/26/2012 2:20:05 PM PDT by nicksaunt
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To: Kartographer

flagellate


32 posted on 07/26/2012 2:23:04 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (USA - ALL THE WAY!)
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No, just no. While I have great affection for the UK and the Royal Family, the US Flag is not dipped on land, ever.

I’m sure the Queen herself, who knows our country and it’s traditions, would agree.


33 posted on 07/26/2012 2:24:39 PM PDT by GreenLanternCorps ("Barack Obama" is Swahili for "Jimmy Carter".)
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To: Kartographer
The United States may break with a controversial tradition...

Long past time for us to put a stop to this crap of the left delegitimizing everything they don't like by calling it controversial—Arizona's controversial immigration law, Controversial Sheriff Joe Arpaio, Chick-fil-A's controversial stance on gay marriage, and so on.

It's not controversial to me that we don't dip the American flag. Is it controversial to you? I didn't think so. Screw these people!

34 posted on 07/26/2012 2:25:29 PM PDT by Dahoser (Separation of church and state? No, we need separation of media and state.)
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To: nicksaunt
What has happened to us?Obama, that's what happened.
35 posted on 07/26/2012 2:25:39 PM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: Surrounded_too

I assume the US flag bearer is free (without repercussion) to do what he(sometimes a burly shot putter who can hold the large flag aloft with one hand)chooses to do re dipping the flag.


36 posted on 07/26/2012 2:25:46 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: All

THIS shoulod be in “BREAKING NEWS” so everyone that comes to this site can see it and respond to their representatives in the DO NOTHING COngress..!!
I can not even express how much this outrages me!!!!!!


37 posted on 07/26/2012 2:25:46 PM PDT by MagUSNRET
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To: Kartographer

We shouldn’t dip the flag.

But I wouldn’t mind seeing Obama groveling before the queen. He’s groveled before enough of our enemies.


38 posted on 07/26/2012 2:27:07 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: SandyInSeattle

“We dip to no one”. Even our ships don’t dip the flag to other flagged vessels as others do — been like that since the revolution. It says we are the United States of America and we will bow to no man or no country. If we do this, it is a loud statement that we no longer are a sovereign nation and no longer free... which is probably why Obama will decide to dip the flag. On a lighter note, this issue comes up every Olympics and every Olympics we refuse to dip.


39 posted on 07/26/2012 2:29:43 PM PDT by Snow Eagle ("... Against all enemies, foreign AND DOMESTIC")
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To: Kartographer

Remember the War of 1812!


40 posted on 07/26/2012 2:32:35 PM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: Kartographer

And to think there are those that think another four years of Obama would be just fine with them.


41 posted on 07/26/2012 2:32:48 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Congrats to Ted Kennedy! He's been sober for two years now!!)
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To: MagUSNRET

You know it seems like SOMETHING everyday from these folks. Dipping our Flag is a no no.

Sometimes I think they are really trying to start something with us. I hope not because we will finish it.


42 posted on 07/26/2012 2:32:48 PM PDT by Steve Newton (And the Wolves will learn what we have shown before-We love our sheep we dogs of war. Vaughn)
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To: MagUSNRET
"THIS shoulod be in “BREAKING NEWS” so everyone that comes to this site can see it and respond to their representatives in the DO NOTHING COngress..!! I can not even express how much this outrages me!!!!!!

Sent your suggestion to moderator. We'll see what they think.
43 posted on 07/26/2012 2:32:48 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
So now the Obamaites/Incompetents want not only the ‘O’ bowing, but all of America.
44 posted on 07/26/2012 2:33:18 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Kartographer
2 Kings 19:19 ~

Now, therefore, O Lord our God, I pray, save us from the hands of those who would destroy us, that all the kingdoms of the earth may know that You are the Lord God, You alone.

45 posted on 07/26/2012 2:33:27 PM PDT by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His word ...)
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To: vortigern

Not even then. Ships don’t dip to other ships. The only time we dip is when nearing Arlington Cemetery in honor of those who died to defend our flag.


46 posted on 07/26/2012 2:34:01 PM PDT by Snow Eagle ("... Against all enemies, foreign AND DOMESTIC")
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To: Uncle Slayton

You can not UN-ring a bell, and you can not UN-dip our flag!!!

This sure as hell better NOT happen!


47 posted on 07/26/2012 2:35:28 PM PDT by MagUSNRET
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To: Snow Eagle

Find out what idiot thought this crap up and let’s roast the turd.


48 posted on 07/26/2012 2:36:25 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Kartographer

That’s because Obama being a liberal HATES this country and is ashamed of it. Blacks often claim “this ain’t my country no how”.


49 posted on 07/26/2012 2:37:50 PM PDT by CodeToad (History says our end is near.)
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To: AmusedBystander

Thank you for posting the flag ettiquette.

I will now amend my comment (even though FR software doesn’t allow us to amend... ahem!) and say no to the dip.


50 posted on 07/26/2012 2:38:05 PM PDT by SandyInSeattle (Running in circles and screaming is not a strategy.)
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