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Cyber bill has gun control amendment [Video at link]
The Hill ^ | July 26, 2012 | Ramsey Cox

Posted on 07/26/2012 5:46:43 PM PDT by jazusamo

Democratic senators included an amendment in the cybersecurity bill that would limit the purchase of high capacity gun magazines for some consumers.

Shortly after the Cybersecurity Act gained Senate approval to proceed to amendments and a vote next week, Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), a sponsor of the gun control amendment, came to the floor to defend the idea of implementing some “reasonable” gun control measures.

The amendment was sponsored by Democratic Sens. Frank Lautenberg (N.J.), Barbara Boxer (Calif.), Jack Reed (R.I.), Bob Menendez (N.J.), Kirsten Gillibrand (N.Y.), Schumer and Dianne Feinstein (Calif.). S.A. 2575 would make it illegal to transfer or possess large capacity feeding devices such as gun magazines, belts, feed stripes and drums of more than 10 rounds of ammunition with the exception of .22 caliber rim fire ammunition.

The amendment would only affect sales and transfers after the law took effect.

Schumer defended the Brady law and assault weapons ban on the floor Thursday evening, perhaps in preparation for the coming fight for Republicans and gun rights activists.

Schumer suggested that both the left and right find common ground.

“Maybe we could come together on guns if each side gave some,” Schumer said.

He suggested that Democrats make it clear that their goal is not to repeal the Second Amendment.

“The basic complaint is that the Chuck Schumers of the world want to take away your guns,” Schumer said of the argument made by gun lobbies. “I think it would be smart for those of us who want rational gun control to make it know that that’s not true at all.”

Schumer also pointed out that it would be reasonable for the right to recognize that background checks on those buying guns is necessary — as called for in the Brady law. He also said average Americans don’t need an assault weapon to go hunting or protect themselves.

“We can debate where to draw the line of reasonableness, but we might be able to come to an agreement in the middle,” Schumer said. “Maybe, maybe, maybe we can pass some laws that might, might, might stop some of the unnecessary casualties … maybe there’s a way we can some together and try to break through the log jam and make sure the country is a better place.”

Next week the Senate is expected to debate and vote on amendments to the Cybersecurity bill.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2012; 2ndamendment; banglist; democrats; govtabuse; guncontrol; liberalfascism; schumer; tyranny; youwillnotdisarmus
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To: jazusamo

How typical. Add a last minute-kneejerk tag onto an existing bill to score some brownie points. We really are in sad shape with the current crop of Senators..is this the best they can do? God, where do these people come from?


21 posted on 07/26/2012 6:33:33 PM PDT by SueRae (See it? Hell, I can TASTE November from my house!)
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To: jazusamo
To Schmuckie Chuckie, repealing the Second Amendment would be a reasonable gun control measure.

This should be DOA in the House, but I hope the Democrats make gun control a major campaign issue. Hopefully, they'll make repealing the Second Amendment a plank in their platform.

22 posted on 07/26/2012 6:35:22 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: philman_36

Snakes is a good term for the bunch of them. This amendment has nothing to do with Cyber security but they’ve learned to sneak things by with their slimy paws.


23 posted on 07/26/2012 6:35:46 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: jz638
The bizarre irony of this kneejerk reaction to the Aurora shooting is that his high capacity ammo drum jamming was one reason that more people didn’t die. If he would have used multiple conventional mags, he probably would have killed more people.

Or more correctly, had sexy rifles, err, I mean, 'assault weapons' been banned, he probably would have just used a bomb and killed five times as many people. Gosh, we should have laws against bombs...

24 posted on 07/26/2012 6:36:59 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: jazusamo
"'Maybe we could come together on guns if each side gave some,' Schumer said...'We can debate where to draw the line of reasonableness, but we might be able to come to an agreement in the middle,' Schumer said."

Incrementalism, also known as gradualism. Schumer and his associates are aiming at a compromise with more incrementalism toward more complete bans in the future.


25 posted on 07/26/2012 6:50:19 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: kingu

I think there are more players ,or maybe puppetmasters, behind the Aurora atrocity.

It did divert much attention rom the won’s ruination of the economy.


26 posted on 07/26/2012 6:51:23 PM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: familyop

Exactly...Incrementalism is what it’s all about and every leftist is going to keep plugging away to destroy the 2nd Amendment.


27 posted on 07/26/2012 6:58:27 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

There are laws against murder in Colorado...fat lot of good that did in Aurora.

Fact is that there are so many hundreds of millions of magazines out there that such a law would do nothing to stop crime. Even the Chuckie-logic fails, let alone real logic, let alone the Constitutionality of the whole thing.

Pubbies in the House had BETTER kill this, or a lot of us will go to the range or reload instead of going to the polls.


28 posted on 07/26/2012 7:06:25 PM PDT by Ancesthntr (Bibi to Odumbo: Its not going to happen.)
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To: jazusamo

Millions of criminals made overnight. Possessing one 30 round mag would make you a criminal.


29 posted on 07/26/2012 7:06:40 PM PDT by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the White House)
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To: jazusamo

This is a good move. Doesn’t the cybersecurity bill already have some things in it most conservatives find objectionable? Hopefully, Chuckie Cheese had pushed a few more Pubbies into voting against the whole thing now.


30 posted on 07/26/2012 7:11:48 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Our economy won't heal until one particular black man is unemployed.)
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To: Dead Corpse
Dead Corpse said: "We’ve given all we are going to give.
Not one step further..."

I live in the People's Republik of Kalifornia. Now that we have the Heller and McDonald decisions from the Supreme Court, I am expecting dramatic roll-backs in the many infringements in place here.

I am expecting the Appeals Courts, or the Supreme Court if necessary, to strike down "may issue" carry permits, ten day waiting periods, idiotic "unsafe handgun" lists, normal capacity magazine bans, and prohibitions against some rifles simply because they have a pistol grip or a flash suppressor.

We gun owners in Kalifornia are not only not going "one step further", we are going full steam ahead at taking back our rights.

Prior to the Kalifornia normal-capacity magazine ban, I purchased $1000 worth of magazines; many for guns I didn't yet own. I resolve here today that if Schumer succeeds in passing his infringement, I will personally purchase $10,000 worth of magazines. Because of Kalifornia's infringements, I will have to store them out-of-state, but buy them I will.

I will also encourage anyone I can to do the same, pointing out that I am among the elite in Kalifornia who owns "grand-fathered" normal-capacity magazines. There will be smoke rising from the overheated equipment manufacturing normal-capacity magazines if I have any say in the matter.

31 posted on 07/26/2012 7:16:01 PM PDT by William Tell
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To: Dead Corpse

These fools sure are pushing hard. I wonder if they really think they can control the disaster they seem hell-bent on unleashing. Once it starts, all bets are off.


32 posted on 07/26/2012 7:23:02 PM PDT by aragorn (We do indeed live in interesting times. FUBO.)
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To: William Tell
Much to-do about nothing.

In my experience, high capacity magazine serve little benefit in all but machine guns.

Three, ten round magazines, in the hands of a competent rifleman, can put as much lead down range as accurately and as rapidly as a highcap mag in a civilian AR-15.

The California, off-list AK-47 certainly benefits from a highcap mag but the rifle is basically a spray gun beyond 25 meters.

33 posted on 07/26/2012 7:45:44 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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Schumer and his wife both have NY carry permits

Feinstein and her husband both have CA carry permits

Sarah Brady carries a .38

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34 posted on 07/26/2012 7:51:24 PM PDT by devolve (-------------- ------- no servers - no intelligence ----------- ---------------------)
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To: jazusamo

Well at least they won’t be able to take away my 100,000 round 22 caliber multi barrel gatling gun....


35 posted on 07/26/2012 7:54:46 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: Red Steel

Spot on. I think even the sheeples know that with us they get freedom to have a weapon so if one needs to, one can protect ones-self and their loved-ones.

Who would not want that? Dick-taters, that’s who. They want all your freedoms. Get a clue lefty’s!


36 posted on 07/26/2012 7:55:00 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's Welfare, Food Stamps, Division and Disability 'Legacy')
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To: jazusamo

I suspect they will put this on every bill until it passes.


37 posted on 07/26/2012 8:27:23 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: jazusamo
it's spelled SCHWULER!!!

(Schwuler = Fag in German)

38 posted on 07/26/2012 8:27:41 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: BigpapaBo

Ditto for Midway USA - they’re limiting Magpul 20 rnd AR15 mags to one order every 48 hours due to high demand.


39 posted on 07/26/2012 8:32:52 PM PDT by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: Amerigomag
Amerigomag said: "In my experience, high capacity magazine serve little benefit in all but machine guns."

I don't totally disagree. However, if a single armed person wished to ambush a much larger group, I can see where not having to reload could be an advantage. I will leave to the imagination of the reader when such a circumstance might arise.

40 posted on 07/26/2012 8:51:27 PM PDT by William Tell
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