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To: TigerClaws
Here's the context, folks (emphasis mine): "There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me -- because they want to give something back. They know they didn’t -- look, if you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own. You didn’t get there on your own. I’m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something -- there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there.

"If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business -- you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet. "The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. There are some things, just like fighting fires, we don’t do on our own. I mean, imagine if everybody had their own fire service. That would be a hard way to organize fighting fires.

"So we say to ourselves, ever since the founding of this country, you know what, there are some things we do better together. That’s how we funded the G.I. Bill. That’s how we created the middle class. That’s how we built the Golden Gate Bridge or the Hoover Dam. That’s how we invented the Internet. That’s how we sent a man to the moon. We rise or fall together as one nation and as one people, and that’s the reason I’m running for President -- because I still believe in that idea. You’re not on your own, we’re in this together."

12 posted on 07/27/2012 5:32:20 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Izzy Dunne

Thanks! Will use that copy of the speech to prove the context makes it even worse!


16 posted on 07/27/2012 5:39:25 AM PDT by Moonmad27 ("I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way." Jessica Rabbit)
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To: Izzy Dunne

I love his roads and bridges line. Yeah — sombody did invest in that — the US Taxpayers. The government only exists because of the US Taxpayers.


19 posted on 07/27/2012 5:43:12 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: Izzy Dunne

In context, the meaning is... the same.

You successful small business owners owe it to the rest of the country to comply with the rapacious tax rates that I want to impose on you.


21 posted on 07/27/2012 5:44:07 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Izzy Dunne

There’s a kernel of truth in there.

I can’t build the Hoover Dam or the Golden Gate Bridge or the Marshall Plan or the moon landing.

We all know that - that’s what government is for.

But to say it in such an angry, scolding manner.... To emphasize the negative instead of, or before the positive... just shows the contempt he has for us.

He could have said something like:

“We are still one nation. One person didn’t build the Hoover Dam, it was a nation. One person didn’t build the Golden Gate Bridge, it was a nation. One person didn’t go to the moon, it was a nation. And we are still a nation that comes together and does things for everybody in the nation, and does things for the whole world. and I want to remind each and every one of you that you are not alone, you are an American.”

-— That says pretty much the same thing, but appeals to my sense of optimism. I haven’t been scolded.

(Coming from O’bama, I wouldn’t actually believe it, because of his history, but still..)

Why does he hate me so much?


22 posted on 07/27/2012 5:44:25 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Izzy Dunne

Thanks for posting this.


35 posted on 07/27/2012 6:00:47 AM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: Izzy Dunne

And no one is objecting to building roads and bridges and having firefighters... it is the roads and bridges and firefighters and ALL THE DAMN SPENDING AND CORRUPTION ON TOP OF THAT WITH HUGE PENSIONS THAT WERE NEVER FUNDED AND SOCIAL PROGRAMS PAYING PEOPLE TO SIT ON THEIR ASS


38 posted on 07/27/2012 6:04:01 AM PDT by Mr. K ("The spread of evil is the symptom of a vacuum [of good]")
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To: Izzy Dunne
"Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges."

My G-G-Grandfather built a road in the howling wilderness of what is now West Virginia in the 1820s that has now become a state highway. He didn't have any government help, but he did have help from family members building it.

Almost every major road and highway in the area where I live in the West was once a privately built toll or wagon road, all originally built without any kind of government help.

41 posted on 07/27/2012 6:13:18 AM PDT by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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To: Izzy Dunne; kalee; Moonmad27
When using the full context, be sure to include a link to the white house site (http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/07/13/remarks-president-campaign-event-roanoke-virginia) and leave the liberal nowhere to go.

Sorry lib, this isn't an allegedly conservative news source selectively editing the speech.

53 posted on 07/27/2012 6:57:55 AM PDT by whd23 (Every time a link is de-blogged an angel gets its wings.)
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To: Izzy Dunne
"There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me..."

I admit I've been slow off the gate, but it finally sunk in how easy that is to satirize. Like so:

There are a lot of healthy, thriving American families who agree with me -- because they want to give more of themselves. They know they didn’t -- look, if you’re a parent, you didn’t get there on your own. You didn’t get there on your own. I’m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I did the right thing. There are a lot of sexually active people out there. It must be because I screwed harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something -- there are a whole bunch of bunny-hunpin' people out there.

"If you're a parent, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great sex ed teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable act that we have that allowed you pass on your genes. Somebody invested in hootchie and cootchie. If you’ve got a baby -- you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. You didn't get invented on your own. Government research created sex education so that all the parents could rejoice in their children.

"The point is, is that when we become parents, we become parents because of our individual initiative, but also because we do that certain thing together. There are some things, just like that thing, we don’t do on our own. I mean, imagine if everybody could reproduce by masturbation. That would be a hard way for us to orgnaize and rationally plan a family unit.

"So we say to ourselves, ever since the founding of this country, you know what, there are some things we do better together. That’s how we become parents in the first place. That’s how we created the Aerican family, in all its wonderful variants. That’s how we extended the bounds of nature by artificial insemination. We rise or slump together as one nation and as one people, and that’s the reason I’m running for President -- because I still believe in that idea. You’re not on your own, certainly not as a parent, so we’re in this together."


80 posted on 07/27/2012 9:02:40 PM PDT by danielmryan
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