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McDonnell appears on VP shortlist
The Washington Times ^ | July 26, 2012 | Ralph Z. Hallow

Posted on 07/27/2012 9:57:10 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell has emerged as one of three Republican officeholders who political handicappers say have the most potential to unify the party and boost the fortunes of GOP standard-bearer Mitt Romney as a running mate in November.

While Mr. Romney has revealed little about his vice-presidential search, Mr. McDonnell, Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal and Florida Sen. Marco Rubio are widely seen as reliable economic and social conservatives at a time when the party faces the possibility of factional divisions heading into next month’s convention in Tampa, Fla.

The Virginia governor, experienced analysts note, is a staunchly pro-life Catholic with a fiscally conservative reputation and no known opposition among evangelicals, whose votes have been vital to GOP electoral success and many of whom are skeptical about Mr. Romney’s Mormon religion.

The Virginia governor is considered a competent, and at times engaging, speaker not likely to upstage Mr. Romney — unlike, say, more charismatic figures such as Mr. Rubio or New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2012veep; classiczot; fumr; mcdonnell; romney2012; va2012
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1 posted on 07/27/2012 9:57:17 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I like what I’ve seen of McDonnell.


2 posted on 07/27/2012 9:59:26 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Love the cult, respect the leader, but I simply can't drink the koolaid and die.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Probably a good pick.
Virgina is a must win and McDonnell would play well in the mid-west battleground states of WI, IA and CO.

Rubio is a good pick but FL is probably already a Red State and I’m not sure he could move NM and NV to the Red Side.


3 posted on 07/27/2012 10:06:05 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: Zathras
If Romney were to pick McDonnell he would be placing his imprimatur to the primary skulduggery engaged in by the Governor, the lt. Governor and others that had as its purpose giving a free win to Mitt.

That will probably guarantee the loss of well over 100,000 Conservative Republican votes to Virgil Goode ~ and that will probably swing Virginia to the Obama column again.

4 posted on 07/27/2012 10:25:32 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Romney’s obvious choice, IMHO.


5 posted on 07/27/2012 10:27:39 AM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I think McDonnell would be a great pick. He can’t run for governor again, he’s a true conservative, and he can help in Virginia, which Obama is trying to steal. Overall, he’s the best of the lot.


6 posted on 07/27/2012 10:33:10 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: muawiyah

Agreed... and McDonnell has become extremely unpopular here in Hampton Roads with his tollbooths.


7 posted on 07/27/2012 10:40:10 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: muawiyah
How many Virginians blame McDonnell rather than the Santorum campaign and the Gingrich campaign for failing to get their candidates on the ballot? It may be that Romney would have placed second or third if Santorum and Gingrich had been on the ballot--but it's likely that Romney would have still emerged as the nominee.

My guess is that if McDonnell had chosen to run for President he would have carried Virginia in the primary. So conservative Republicans are supposed to be so angry over not having a chance to vote for Gingrich or Santorum in the spring that they would help Obama get four more years even with a governor they like as the VP nominee? Maybe some will but I doubt it will be 100,000.

Goode's main hope of making an impact is if the Obama campaign funnels money to his campaign.

8 posted on 07/27/2012 10:54:11 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: wolfman23601
And for those who don't know what I am talking about, here is the Ring of Fire aroung Hampton Roads that "Tollbooth" Bob has spent his term working to create: Obama and Biden will have a field day with these monster middle class tax hikes. Keep in mind these are existing toll free roads and there are no plans to reduce the gas tax to offset these hikes. http://hamptonroads.com/2012/03/virginia-helping-hampton-roads-road-needs
9 posted on 07/27/2012 10:55:36 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I’m not from Virginia and so cannot criticize those Virginia FReepers who seem to look askance at Governor Bob McDonnell as Romney’s possible VP pick. However, unless McDonnell has some huge skeleton in his closet, his record looks firmly conservative and he seems a reasonable choice. His state being crucial in the election simply gives him an extra bit of an edge. I still like Rubio or Jindal but could support McDonnell, too. I’m sure he could make mincemeat out of Joe Biden in a debate. Then again, who couldn’t?


10 posted on 07/27/2012 10:57:44 AM PDT by Jim Scott (Obama must be defeated)
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To: Nervous Tick

If the choice comes down to Obama/Biden vs. Romney/McDonnell, it would be the first time that neither major ticket had a mainstream Protestant on it.


11 posted on 07/27/2012 10:57:55 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Free ThinkerNY
The Virginia governor, experienced analysts note, is a staunchly pro-life Catholic

And he's there every Sunday. He attends the same church that my daughter does.

12 posted on 07/27/2012 11:01:43 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (ABO)
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To: Verginius Rufus
We've gone over that numerous times. The cold hard facts are ROMNEY did not validate his nominating petitions either. He simply claimed a number more than set by Bolling and that was the end of that.

Bolling also changed the cut off just a couple of days before the turn-in date.

BTW, none of you guys can prove Romney actually qualified either!

Without the Mittbot nonsense we'd had a regular primary with a lot of candidates, and they would have each gotten more votes than Romney. No one can forget Mitt's pitiful 18,000 votes in the 2008 primary ~ the dude is simply remarkably unpopular in Virginia.

Picking McDonnell will undoubtedly give Democrat crossover voters pause ~ but fur shur it will drive off real Conservative voters.

13 posted on 07/27/2012 11:06:18 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Verginius Rufus

Good is very popular in the Richmond and Charlottesville areas, where he provided congressional representation for 20+ years and is polling around 10% statewide, a gap Romney has to make up. McDonnell has ruined himself in Hampton Roads (see above example), which is the state’s 2nd largest metro area besides Washington, which will go for Obama. Romney will not carry Virginia if he picks McDonnell because he will need to carry Hampton Roads by a wide margin to make up for Goode being in the race.


14 posted on 07/27/2012 11:06:59 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: afraidfortherepublic

And he believes in none of it ~ else he wouldn’t be a Mittbot.


15 posted on 07/27/2012 11:07:19 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Jim Scott
Jim, not to burst any balloons or shoot any unicorns down, but you cannot be a Mittbot in March 2012 and be a Conservative Republican.

Does not compute.

16 posted on 07/27/2012 11:08:53 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Free ThinkerNY

He’d be a bad pick, but a pick I could see Romney making.

His antediluvian college thesis or whatever it was shows if anything Romney will get it all wrong while supposedly catering to the moderate/independent vote:

McDonnell is someone who would scare moderates on social issue—which is where such voters get scared.


17 posted on 07/27/2012 11:10:22 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

Actually, McDonnell will give that Fluke gal another run at fame.


18 posted on 07/27/2012 11:13:21 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Who are you to judge what is in a man’s heart and soul?


19 posted on 07/27/2012 11:16:44 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (ABO)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

VA - where Newt was kept off the ballot.


20 posted on 07/27/2012 11:25:56 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: afraidfortherepublic
And who are you to judge what I judge. You got a criticism take it up with God.

Mittbotism is incompatible with honesty, integrity, conservatism, and a whole lot of other positive stuff.

Old saying, older than the Judeo-Christian tradition, older than Noah ~ "Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas".

I hope you realize there's nothing personal about any of this ~ it's just politics, and Mitt's the wrong dude.

21 posted on 07/27/2012 11:33:04 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Jim, not to burst any balloons or shoot any unicorns down, but you cannot be a Mittbot in March 2012 and be a Conservative Republican.

Does not compute.

Compute this. I've been a conservative for many decades and have repeatedly stated on these forums, apparently to no avail, that I never considered Mitt Romney a conservative. He was never my choice in the primaries and I did not vote for him. However, the primaries are long past. Whining about Romney and helping the left beat him with Obama is a foolish waste of time. It's painfully obvious that conservatives (the TEA party) have to wrest control of the RNC from the elites that manipulate the primary selection process that renders a McCain and a Romney as the GOP candidate. That's for the future. Now, Obama must be removed and the only way we have to do that is by defeating him in the presidential election. Romney is the candidate designated to accomplish this, as I expect he will.

I didn't want him, you didn't want him but he is our only real choice unless you want to ride the anti-Romney unicorn, sit home and pout on election day while telling other life-long conservatives that in your exalted opinion, they aren't 'real' conservatives if they vote for Romney. You can drop the condescending 'Romneybot' label while you're at it. I'm about as far from that as as possible and I'm fed up with 'holier-than-thou' FReepers playing that game with anyone who doesn't toe the anti-Romney line on FR. That anti-Romney rubbish helps no one but Obama and I won't be a part of it. If Jim Robinson wants his website to reflect The Daily Koz or The Huffington Post and be 24/7 anti-Romney, that is his prerogative. I don't chose to play that losing game.

22 posted on 07/27/2012 11:35:38 AM PDT by Jim Scott (Obama must be defeated)
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To: wolfman23601

I don’t see what McDonnell would bring to the ticket. If Romney can’t win Virgina without picking a favorite son, he’s not going to win the election anyway.

I don’t have an issue with McDonnell, I just don’t see how he brings anything other than possibly winning Virginia which should already be in the Romney win column.


23 posted on 07/27/2012 11:50:20 AM PDT by sarge83
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To: muawiyah

It doesn’t stop there, he went on about how government policies should be designed to keep women out of the workforce and generally put about six feet into his mouth at once.


24 posted on 07/27/2012 11:54:31 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: muawiyah

Do you know McDonnell personally? My daughter does, and I would take her assessment of his character over yours any day.


25 posted on 07/27/2012 12:05:06 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (ABO)
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To: Jim Scott

Well said!


26 posted on 07/27/2012 12:07:15 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (ABO)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Ryan, Ryan, Ryan.


27 posted on 07/27/2012 12:11:48 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Jim Scott

Jim Scott.....Jim Robinson wrote this some days ago to a disgruntled ABO like yourself. You need to read it:

“I’m very sorry to lose you, but I cannot bring myself to support Romney who for more than thirty years of his adult life (by his own admission) advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America. He explained that he had believed that since 1970 when his mother ran for the Senate on that platform. Also, he claimed that since Roe v Wade had been in existence for twenty years, it was settled law and should be sustained and supported as such and swore to do so. That plus the fact that he boasted that he would be better for gay rights than Ted Kennedy. And proved it. And the fact that he advocated for and signed into law a socialized healthcare program that eventually morphed into ObamaCare and is now threatening to end constitutionally limited government in America with the traitors on the Supreme Court upholding it. Romney’s entire career was that of a leftist liberal progressive. I cannot support the man. I cannot support the GOP’s sudden lurch to the left.”

Jim Scott - If you don’t like the direction of FR then maybe you should stop posting. Your “pragmatic support” of Romney just doesn’t wash anymore.


28 posted on 07/27/2012 12:35:18 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Jim Scott

Thank you for posting that. More elegant than what I was going to write.

The circular firing squad in here is getting hard to tolerate. Given there are only TWO possible winners in November, either one votes for Obama or Romney. Mitt was my last choice, but the alternative goes against everything this nation stands for.

Bottom line: if you want to vote third party to prove some ideological point - just vote Obama, and join the communist party - same thing. Yeah, Mitt isn’t a rock-ribbed conservative, but he’s proud to be an AMERICAN. Can you say that for Obama? Hell no. Virgil Goode has absolutely no chance in Hell of becoming the President. Get over yourselves. I’m no “Mittbot”, flame away all you want.


29 posted on 07/27/2012 12:39:30 PM PDT by datura (Democrat = Socialist, Progressive Democrat = Communist)
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To: Sola Veritas

Neither does you speaking for the entire forum.


30 posted on 07/27/2012 12:42:31 PM PDT by datura (Democrat = Socialist, Progressive Democrat = Communist)
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To: Sola Veritas; Jim Scott

“Jim Scott - If you don’t like the direction of FR then maybe you should stop posting. Your “pragmatic support” of Romney just doesn’t wash anymore.”

Is that you Rahm Emmanuel? If they don’t agree with you, they shouldn’t have freedom of speech? Is that you Thomas Menino?


31 posted on 07/27/2012 12:46:48 PM PDT by MissouriConservative (Voting Anyone but Obama in 2012.)
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To: MissouriConservative

“If they don’t agree with you, they shouldn’t have freedom of speech? “

Say what? Who was preventing them from speaking?


32 posted on 07/27/2012 12:51:07 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Go ahead and do that.

I look at his public behavior.

33 posted on 07/27/2012 1:01:18 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Jim Scott
Mitt is doing his level best to lose the election. Time to remove him from the race BEFORE the convention.

And the point was about some doufous who claimed he was a Conservative before March this year and then he chose to do Romney's bidding.

I"m sorry, that just writes you out of Conservatism so fast you wouldn't believe it.

Now, were you a Mittbot before Virginia's March primary?

34 posted on 07/27/2012 1:04:32 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: 9YearLurker

McDonnell is a confused man.


35 posted on 07/27/2012 1:07:09 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: afraidfortherepublic
it didn't address what I said about the feckless McDonnell though, just what Br'r Scott was dreaming up in his mind.

Let me add McDonnell didn't run as a Conservative anyway. He claimed he was some sort of moderate ~ turns out he was a Mittbot. So, what afraidfortherepublic said wasn't all that well said.

36 posted on 07/27/2012 1:09:21 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: afraidfortherepublic
it didn't address what I said about the feckless McDonnell though, just what Br'r Scott was dreaming up in his mind.

Let me add McDonnell didn't run as a Conservative anyway. He claimed he was some sort of moderate ~ turns out he was a Mittbot. So, what Jim Scott said wasn't all that well said.

37 posted on 07/27/2012 1:09:57 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: datura
Romney is the sort of guy who doesn't serve in our military, nor does anyone in his family.

Not enough sacrifice there for my taste.

38 posted on 07/27/2012 1:11:47 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: datura

“Neither does you speaking for the entire forum.”

Wake up. The entire forum is owned by Jim Robinson. He can set whatever policy he choses.

He allows persons to post ABO material. However, when you start campaigning for Romney (even under the “pragmatic” approach) you “may” be stepping over a line. That is, of course, for Jim Robinson to decide.

Bottom line is that Jim, and those supporting him like myself, are moving in a direction that opposes GOPe picked posers like Romney. We are sick of them wanting our votes and then picking the “mushy middle” to run as candidates for the GOP. The GOPe does NOT speak for real conservatives. Romney DOES NOT speak for real conservatives. Using Romney as a means to eliminate Obama is a flawed strategy.

BTW - I don’t know of anyone (from JR down) on this forum that won’t be voting for Obama that plans on staying at home. We WILL be voting down ticket for conservatives for House and Senate and state offices. We will vote third party or do a write in for POTUS. We won’t sully ourselves by supporting Romney. We won’t let the GOPe continue to run the party by supporting their picks. To do so just ensures we will NEVER see another Ronald Reagan elected.


39 posted on 07/27/2012 1:24:17 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

And he lives his life according to the Catholic Church.

McDonnell is also a veteran, serving four years on active duty in the Army, then following that up with 16 years in the reserves, retiring as a Lt Colonel.

Romney could not find a better pick.


40 posted on 07/27/2012 1:32:48 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: MissouriConservative; Jim Robinson

“Is that you Rahm Emmanuel? If they don’t agree with you, they shouldn’t have freedom of speech? Is that you Thomas Menino?”

No, this is a REAL Conservative that is currently a resident of Missouri. This November, I’m focusing on getting rid of McCaskil and getting Hartzler reelected. I will NOT be sucked into ABO sophistry and support Romney in this election. Of course, I will not support Obama either. I will vote third party - a third party vote is NOT a vote for Obama - a vote is a vote. A vote for Romney is just a vote to keep the rule of the GOP Establishment over real conservatives. It is a vote to ever get a Ronald Reagan in office again.

By working hard to increase conservative members of House and Senate in 2012 and more in 2014, will CAN AND WILL put Obama in check. IF Romney gets in office he will lurch left just as he did in Mass. He WILL hurt the chances of conservatism and cause the GOP to lose seats in 2014 and then get another liberal Dem elected in 2016. No, Romney is NOT the answer. Controling the House and Senate is. Then we can get a real conservative elected as POTUS in 2016.


41 posted on 07/27/2012 1:42:03 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: NKP_Vet

He tolerates electoral irregularities and corruption.


42 posted on 07/27/2012 1:49:24 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Jim Scott

Interesting...prefer him over Rubio-Jeb Bush’s pick. Does anyone know his stance on the immigration issue....a Jeff Sessions...possibly?


43 posted on 07/27/2012 1:51:34 PM PDT by magna carta
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Romney McDonnell. Sounds like a clown.


44 posted on 07/27/2012 1:56:28 PM PDT by Lady Lucky (If you believe what you're saying, quit making taxable income.)
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To: Lady Lucky

like ROMBAMA and BIDONNEL ~ all same thing GI


45 posted on 07/27/2012 1:58:22 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Lady Lucky

“Sounds like a clown.”

That there is funny.

Under the sign of the gold-plated arses.


46 posted on 07/27/2012 2:00:17 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Govenors with less than one term in office - they are great if tehy are men, but not Sarah...go figure. For me I want someone like Pawlenty who is not in office, the VP job is 0 importance jsut look at Al Gore or Biden or even Chaney. Leave the good guys in the senate and heading their states.


47 posted on 07/27/2012 2:39:17 PM PDT by q_an_a (the more laws the less justice)
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To: muawiyah
Mitt is doing his level best to lose the election. Time to remove him from the race BEFORE the convention.

And the point was about some doufous who claimed he was a Conservative before March this year and then he chose to do Romney's bidding.

I"m sorry, that just writes you out of Conservatism so fast you wouldn't believe it.

Now, were you a Mittbot before Virginia's March primary?

Again with the childish insults? Apparently you and those FReepers who share your views on Romney presume you are demonstrating political sophistication and unassailable integrity by bashing him and calling into question the conservatism of any FReeper that doesn't agree with you. How convenient. That approach of using inferred aspersions on someone else's political integrity is the same type of ploy lefties use all day long to attack those of us on the right, only they infer we are 'racist' or just plain stupid.

Here, on a political website I've been an active part of (6,000 + posts) for over 12 years, my conservative Bona fides and integrity are questioned by smug, self-appointed arbiters of what defines a political conservative who have decreed that to support the putative Republican nominee for president - Mitt Romney - the only real alternative to the Kenyan Marxist, Obama - is tantamount to abandoning conservative principles. I consider that kind of self-serving presumption absurd and I reject it. You can post all the insults you want from this point on because to me, your opinions are no longer relevant and simply the rantings of a person who simply can't face political reality and thinks he hides it by claiming he's the better conservative for doing so. Enough of this. Good day.

48 posted on 07/27/2012 2:48:43 PM PDT by Jim Scott (Obama must be defeated)
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To: wolfman23601

They are underwater bridges across a major seaport, do you think they should be free? I live on the Southwest side of the state and I don’t want to pay for Va Beach and NOVA growth problems. You guys keep building houses further and further out and wonder why you have traffic problems.


49 posted on 07/27/2012 2:50:15 PM PDT by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: Jim Scott

Actually i really could care less about you ~ I was referring to our doufous governor, McDonnell.


50 posted on 07/27/2012 2:51:27 PM PDT by muawiyah
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