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The Price of Gun Control
harpers.org ^ | 20 July, 2012 | Dan Baum

Posted on 07/28/2012 4:52:03 AM PDT by marktwain

When you write about guns, as I do, and a shooting like the one in the Aurora movie theater happens an hour from your house, people call. I’ve already done an interview today with a Spanish newspaper and with Canadian radio. Americans and their guns: what a bunch of lunatics.

Among the many ways America differs from other countries when it comes to guns is that when a mass shooting happens in the United States, it’s a gun story. How an obviously sick man could buy a gun; how terrible it is that guns are abundant; how we must ban particular types of guns that are especially dangerous. The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence responded to the news with a gun-control petition. Andrew Rosenthal of the New York Times has weighed in with an online column saying that “Politicians are far too cowardly to address gun violence . . . which keeps us from taking practical measures to avoid senseless shootings.”

Compare that to the coverage and conversation after Anders Behring Breivik murdered sixty-nine people on the island of Utøya in Norway, a year ago next Sunday. Nobody focused on the gun. I had a hard time learning from the news reports what type of gun he used. Nobody asked, “How did he get a gun?” That seemed strange, because it’s much harder to get a gun in Europe than it is here. But everybody, even the American media, seemed to understand that the heart of the Utøya massacre story was a tragically deranged man, not the rifle he fired. Instead of wringing their hands over the gun Breivik used, Norwegians saw the tragedy as the opening to a conversation about the rise of right-wing extremism in their country.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; cost; europe; guncontrol
It is not "Americans" who are violent, but certain sub groups of americans who are violent. Remove Black urban crime and Hispanic crime from american statistics, and the United States compares with Europe for violent crime.
1 posted on 07/28/2012 4:52:12 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain
Deranged maniacs kill a dozen or three every year or two. If they can't find guns, they make a bomb, or poison a party, or plow a truck into a crowd.

Unrestrained governemnts kill by the thousands and the millions...but only after they disarm their people.


2 posted on 07/28/2012 5:01:45 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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“Remove Black urban crime and Hispanic crime from american statistics, and the United States compares with Europe for violent crime.”

THAT is a taboo fact/subject. You are labeled “racist” for even bringing it up by the left, all the while the left ironically and hypocritically claiming to want an ‘honest and open conversation’ about race.


3 posted on 07/28/2012 6:34:32 AM PDT by Wildbill22
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The temptation at times like these is to “do something” about guns. Australia and Britain passed tougher gun laws after mass shootings, and haven’t suffered another since.

As did Canada after a mass shooting - Montreal Massacre, 1989, and Oops, Hundreds gathered Monday [ July 23, 2012]for the funeral of a 23-year-old man killed in a shooting rampage at a Toronto block party.

And in Australia, one hasn't happened again,... yet. Here's an article in Snopes (article is write protected), where an Australian policeman gives his take on gun crime since tougher gun laws were instituted, while "Snopes" makes a tendentious rebuttal, arguing that Australians do not and never had "a constitutional right to own firearms", as well as various nit-pickings.

And in the UK: The Cumbria shootings was a killing spree that occurred on 2 June 2010 when a lone gunman, Derrick Bird, killed 12 people and injured 11 others before killing himself in Cumbria, England.

What's this guy been smoking?

4 posted on 07/28/2012 8:38:35 AM PDT by caveat emptor (Zippity Do Dah)
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Actually the article has a couple of faults, even if the central premise is correct.

A) He claims that there has not been a mass shooting in the UK since they cracked down hard on guns in the 90s. This is false, there was a mass shooting which killed 12 in 2010.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jun/02/cumbria-shootings-slaughter-countryside-derrick-bird

B) He’s one of the rare lefty gun guys, so he regrets that the Dems supporting gun control has limited the Progressive agenda. Boo hoo. Then again it is in Harper’s so I can’t very well expect a conservative writer.


5 posted on 07/28/2012 9:37:35 AM PDT by drbuzzard (All animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others.)
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To: caveat emptor

>What’s this guy been smoking?

Progressive crack evidently. Just read his last paragraph.


6 posted on 07/28/2012 9:39:15 AM PDT by drbuzzard (All animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others.)
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