Posted on 07/28/2012 6:27:04 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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see #39
What difference does their ages matter?
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see #39
As I said, it’s not the practice of the Christian “religion” that they (the racists)are exhibiting...it doesn’t matter if it’s 5 people or the majority. They had to have had a meeting and voted to not let the couple marry there, which means more than 5 ultimately voted their racist convictions. Two days before the wedding...how “Christian.”
It still gives true Christians a bad name...whether it’s what the racists did, or the way it was reported in this posted article.
“I’m sure there is much more to the story. What I don’t know.”
I know of a couple who were married in my church, but not by the pastor, since he refused to marry an unbeliever to a believer. His stance was and is that a Christian marriage ceremony is a worship service asking the Lord to bless a union. A couple can be married by a notary, justice of the peace, or any of many options, but to ask for the Lord’s blessing to such a union is not biblical.
In this case I’m sure that the pastor confirmed that both the bride and groom are Christians, especially since he married them in another church.
The problem here is specifically that members who have no problem with tithes and offering going to foreign missions for Blacks and other people of color, can’t get the plank out of their own eye, and realize that in heaven there will not be walls dividing black from white, red from yellow, or Baptist, from any other denomination. More clearly, the Body of Christ here on earth should reflect that which is in heaven.
To be fair, every other Protestant denomination also split over the issue during the 1840s and 50s.
In most if not all cases the aggression was on the side of southerners, insisting that the denomination change previous policies recognizing or implying opposition to slavery to ones that were either non-judgmental or even supportive of the peculiar institution.
“The Wilsons were trying to get married at the predominantly white First Baptist Church of Crystal Springs (Mississippi)—”CRYSTAL SPRINGS, MS (WLBT)”
“Good old Alabama....”
At least us “Good old Alabama” people know how to read. You might note that this is Crystal Springs, Mississippi. Just out of curiosity, what perfect state are you from where there is never a controvery or stupid people doing stupid things?
The reporter states the accusation as fact, when it is only an accusation. I flat out don’t believe a pastor refused to marry the couple because they were black. There had to be some other reason. For example, the groom may have been a Christian adherent and the bride not, or the church may have a bylaw regarding marriage of non-members or marrying non-baptised individuals.
The church could NOT have had a rule against performing marriages for a specific race or national origin and have been part of the SBC.
Let’s not act like lemmings and pile on without some healthy skepticism.
If you read the article, a "small group" came to the pastor and told him that if he went ahead with the service they would get him fired. The wedding would go off as planned but they'd punish him for it.
The pastor, quite properly IMO, did not want to put the couple thru such stress on their day of celebration, so he suggested they move the ceremony.
Probably the best thing to do given the timeline. Had more time been available I think the wise thing to do would have been to force a vote and have these bigots defeated by 3 to 1 or something.
Possibly expel them from the Church. Hehh.
BTW, I used to get into discussions with Freepers who claimed "miscegenation" was against God's will. Something about the races being placed by God on different continents and therefore not supposed to mix. Ignoring that God did not put them where they were, they migrated there from a common source. Truly classic example of illogic. Haven't heard from them in a while.
Seems most would prefer a black church where they attend. Probably just trying to start some BS for a law suit yielding walking around money. Ridiculous people always stirring up the pot.
Seems most would prefer a black church where they attend. Probably just trying to start some BS for a law suit yielding walking around money. Ridiculous people always stirring up the pot.
Oops...meant Mississippi...had that old governor on my mind...
I read the article, both the posted articled and the “local news” article.
The pastor should have feared [trusted] God more than man and gone on with the ceremony. For some reason he didn’t.
“Seems most would prefer a black church where they attend. Probably just trying to start some BS for a law suit yielding walking around money. Ridiculous people always stirring up the pot.”
I don’t know if you’re from the south or not, but we’re really not as racist as some in other parts of the country still believe. We are, generally, racist toward young blacks who want to kill us and take our stuff, but otherwise we’re mostly “go along to get along”. While there are some who think the way this church is purported to have acted, most won’t act like that. I think, like some other posters, that there is more to this story.
God says in His Word that he made from one (one blood, one man—Adam, the first human being) every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth and determined their appointed times and the boundaries of the habitation, that they should seek God...[Acts 17:24-27]
The verse says that the Sovereign Creator of the universe determines where peoples of nations are to live (regardless of their race or anything else)and when they are to live.
This Black couple shouldn’t think of this as Christians exhibiting racism. No Christians exhibited racism. Christians don’t act this way.
This was a despicable thing to do in the name of Christianity.
May this couple have a very happy long life together.
The Wilsons were trying to get married at the predominantly white First Baptist Church of Crystal Springs (Mississippi)—a church they attend regularly, but are not members of. …
“The church congregation had decided no black could be married at that church and that if he went on to marry her, then they would vote him out the church,” Charles Wilson told the NBC affiliate.
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