Seems like you have chosen your side. It's not the same as mine.
Posted on 07/28/2012 11:34:03 AM PDT by Kaslin
writing in big letters does not answer the question and neither does “by definition”.
you are the second person to write back to me without answering my question: so you don’t believe there should be any gun laws what so ever??? I’ll ask it again and instead of calling names and blabbing nonsense, try to answer it this time. Try this one: is it okay for Charles Manson to be set free from prison and be able to buy any gun he wants at any time with no restriction? Why can’t you libertarians just say, well yes, there has to be SOME gun laws instead of ranting.
you are the second person to write back to me without answering my question: so you don’t believe there should be any gun laws what so ever??? I’ll ask it again and instead of calling names and blabbing nonsense, try to answer it this time. Try this one: is it okay for Charles Manson to be set free from prison and be able to buy any gun he wants at any time with no restriction? Why can’t you libertarians just say, well yes, there has to be SOME gun laws instead of ranting.
Your error is in thinking that it is OK for Charles Manson to be set free from prison. And yes, there needs to be some gun law and it is entirely expressed by the Second Amendment. Free people can bear arms, slaves can't. It's that simple.
That’s a great article at that link. You get the impression that Palin is a real American while the detractors mentioned there simply aren’t.
I’m a huge fan of Krauthammer. No, he’s not the pristine conservative that so many here will only support. But I learn something every time he speaks! AND he is the most thoughtful, courageous pundit out there right now. 90% of the others scream inane talking points at each other and I learn nothing.
And by the way, he’s heavily anti-Obama and consistently makes powerful well reasoned effective arguments against Obama’s policies. 2nd only to Newt in this regard, IMHO.
AND if a liberal does try the inane talking point gibberish with him, he promptly destroys them with an intilectual response. Poor Juan Williams has nightmares about multiple public floggings The Hammer unleashed on him.
Exactly. Most of the voters in the "blue" (very PINK) counties, the Gorebot counties, are being led around by opinion "leaders" who not only don't feel like Americans, they don't like Americans, or America, and don't give a damn about freedom and independence.
They think of the world as one big cable-TV market or something, in which the problem is always to get the best service for the least money, or get a good technician to come solve their "prollems". Think of them as being a sea of "Snookis", and then you can begin to scope the problem.
Tell one of those people that so-and-so is a great American, a true patriot and servant of the country, and all they want to know is, "Does he deliver? Is he open at 3 a.m. so I can get a good -- make that great -- bagel?"
s I once read an interesting article about the people of ninth-century Constantinople, the import of which was that the Byzantines were the age's most cosmopolitan people in the age's most advanced city -- but that their worldview was parochial, solipsistic, and cramped, and that that shortsightedness or lack of vision, lack of attunement to reality, eventually killed their empire and gave their city to rude people stinking of old garlic.
Seems like you have chosen your side. It's not the same as mine.
If you had actually read my reply, you would have seen that I said we have plenty of gun laws already. Instead you go off on some stupid rant about Charles Manson, and then accuse me of “calling names and blabbing nonsense”, which is exactly what you did. Since you insist on not reading what I say, I’m not wasting any more time on you.
Thank you, as you were wasting your time and mine.
“Let 20,000,000 kids burn themselves out, nodding out on street corners and in public parks. Sure.”
Well that would be approximately 1/3 of the people under 20 in the USA. Since I see this daily from the ER vantage point. I can tell you that you are way off. Since I also have seen the WOD from the coroner’ office perspective I can tell you that greater than 90% of the people shot in our city are related to drug dealing. Read up on Prohibition and the Kennedy clan and see who got rich and enjoyed living high while the others burned. The Oligarchs love the WOD and so do the COPS. Check the term NARCOTERRORIST. Might find some bankers and others that fit that term.
I also forgot to mention that as scientist I believe in the scientific method. We’ve done the experiment once, prohibition, and it didn’t work. We’re repeating it again and it isn’t working and we are getting exactly the same result. If this was a drug trial and it was found that the drug didn’t work and was harming people it would be immediately stopped. Prohibition has never worked at anytime in history that I can find. It is against human nature.
Or did I miss some nuance in there? Some nuance that makes you more and more right, the more you think about it, and less and less susceptible to second-guessing on your primary value judgment for free access to the world's most powerfully addictive substances?
Your premise is substantially in error. Prohibition did work -- but the propaganda has been the other way, so don't worry about it.
Total alcohol consumption, total consumption per capita, and alcoholism rates fell. Rum practically disappeared, other white liquors declined precipitously in popularity, and wine nearly disappeared for 50 years.
Tastes rotated toward brown liquors and beer, and consumption fell. Social attitudes changed, and moderation was in.
It worked. Deal with it.
“It worked. Deal with it.”
It was repealed in record time so you deal with it. You fail to mention the rise in violent crime related to prohibition. You can force abstinence and what do you get extinction of the species except for the hidden prostitutes who will continue to get pregnant from the Oligarchs.
I forgot to mention the rise of organized crime during prohibition which was fueled by illegal alcohol and which expanded during the Great Depression and gave us things like the Gun Control Act of 1934 under Barack the I’st. I guess you like living in a police state. If you don’t think so you haven’t dealt with the FBI, DEA and the locals on issues dealing with the WOD. I have this opinion because I was working with them. If you don’t think it’s all about money and power, I’ve got a bridge for sale.
It did its job in record time and left a permanent impress on society and our mores.
You deal with it. Game, set, match.
Thanks for playing.
Always fun. For your reading pleasure, may be a little too Libertarian for you since it is from the Cato Institute.
Cato Institute Policy Analysis No. 157: Alcohol Prohibition Was a Failure.
Keep the faith.
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