Skip to comments.O’Reilly Is O’Really in Left Field on the Guns and Ammo Issue
Posted on 07/29/2012 4:58:30 AM PDT by Kaslin
This year will go down in history. For the first time a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient and the world will follow our lead into the future. Adolf Hitler, 1935
When I shout at the TV its usually because of one of these three reasons:
1. Noticing that Bob Beckel has just dyed his hair a shade of ginger that Carrot Top would eschew. What shade is that, man? Clairols Rusted Barn Pipe especially blended for the sassy progressive?
2. Seeing Roseanne Barr on the tube braying her insanity, on any subject, will also get me throwing cigar ashtrays at my flat screen and howling like a Bluetick on a fresh coon track.
3. And lastly, always guaranteed to get a screech out of me, is when I happen to see Jan Crouch sitting on a gold TBN pagoda sporting a wig that makes her the envy of RuPaul.
However, this past week I was hollering at Bill OReilly. Normally, I respect and enjoy Bills take on pressing issues, but OMG was OReilly out in leftist field on the guns and ammo issue.
On Monday, July 23rds Talking Points, OReilly made some outrageous and erroneous statements about guns and gun purchases. They were so misleading that I was wondering if Michael Moore was moonlighting as a writer for The Factor.
Initially Bill got off to a good start stating, [Bill] Moyers has no clue, no clue at all. He apparently believes that federal and state governments can actually control gun crimes. Thats so dumb it hurts. But then he follows up this statement with some of the most uninformed Talking Points that I have witnessed on his show, and yes, I am a regular viewer. Check it out
OReilly: Anyone who sells a heavy weapon or ammo should be compelled to report the sale to the FBI. Its a felony if you dont. Thats what we should have in the U.S.A. and it just makes sense in this age of terrorism. Right now some gun dealers do background checks but nobody reports the sale of heavy weapons like AK-47s to the feds. Thats insane.
Bill, if you purchase an AK-47 today at a gun store, you will be required to fill out Federal Form 4473. On this form, you will answer a barrage of questions about your criminal history and citizenship. On page 2, section D, the form lists the type, model number, manufacturer, serial number, etc. of the firearm that is being purchased.
If a licensed gun dealer does not accurately complete this form, he would face penalties up to and including prison time. All dealers are required to complete this form for every firearm purchase. This form is a BATFE form, and if they do not talk to the FBI, then that is a problem between those agencies and not gun purchasers.
As it relates to purchases of ammo, the idea that one would report the hundreds of millions of rounds of ammunition sold yearly would take an army of federal employees to process the information. I would wager that they would catch as many criminals as the TSA has caught potential terrorists by groping Granny. However, they would be able to compile a great list of people like me who shoot regularly and buy their ammunition in bulk. That list would include my cowboy action shooting friends, trap and skeet shooters, prairie dog hunters, individual police officers, military personnel, gun collectors, reloaders and so on. Keeping lists of law-abiding citizens does not stop killers bent on bedlam.
Bills next ditty was so outrageous that it is near impossible to comment on without laughing. OReilly: Terrorists could just move in here, buy bazookas and the FBI doesnt know about it. Here is how crazy this is. If you take a flight lesson, the feds get a heads up. But you can buy a machine gun and they dont know.
Bazookas and machine guns are commonly referred to as class III weapons and/or destructive devices, which require a very special license to own. Yep, its a wee bit different than buying a Ruger 10/22. The Feds have been licensing machine guns since 1934. To own a machine gun, one must first live in a state where it is legal, and then complete a Federal licensing process that, as I understand, takes a few months. On top of the aforementioned, get ready to drop about ten grand because the manufacturing of new guns has been banned for years. To the best of my knowledge, only one legally owned machine gun has been used in a crime in the U.S. since 1934, and the owner was a member of the law enforcement community.
Another thing I was howling over was OReilly calling an AK-47 a heavy weapon. Heavy weapon? Uh not hardly. Granted, I wouldnt want any round from a .22LR up inside of my body, but the pipsqueak little 7.62x39 is hardly considered a heavy caliber by anyone who knows anything about guns.
Then to cap off Bills misinformation, the following night OReilly stepped in it again by wrongfully asserting that the Aurora jackwagon who shot up the theater ordered 60,000 rounds of ammo over the Internet. Bill screamed that several times 60,000 rounds! Wrong again. Holmes ordered 6,000 rounds, and not one ton of ammo.
Look, folks can try to ban semi-automatic weapons and limit ammo sales all day long, but criminals will always be able to get their paws on them. The only thing that would have stopped James Holmes would have been a bullet to his head by an armed citizen who, in this case, was unfortunately banned from entering the theater.
After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away from the people who didn't do it.
William S. Burroughs
This piece was co-authored by Steve Sheldon.
O’Gasbag in Left field?
Whod’a thunk it?
He proved going to Harvard makes people ignorant.
with apologies to Ted Knight
Too many box seat games with the Mayor for BOR. The only way he will see the light on any issue is if and when it finally affects him personally. EVERY FARGGIN’ TIME!
Remember how long he scoffed at media bias until it hit him right between the eyes? Remember his love fest with Obama the candidate until he was singled out by the subsequent White House?
He calls himself an independent and then wants to argue with Stossell?
Nope, BOR is just his own animal who will feed at any trough that feeds his ego until he gets a mouthful of gravel. Then he’ll find another.
I would assume that is where they teach that "willful disbelief" thingy that Hitlery spoke about. Seems to be pervasive from anyone attending classes there.
Did BOR earn a Gold Medal again in the felafels and loofahs competition?
You gather up all the statistics for the past thirty years in a database. You note each murder accomplished by a automatic rifle. At the end of your data product...you find that ban on automatic rifles back in 1980...would have saved around .05 of one percent of all the people killed by guns over the thirty year period.
You can use the logic that saving just one person....would amount to something, and I’d give you that credit. But after that point...might I suggest a different database search?
What if you deducted Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, Iowa, Nebraska, and Maine from your database? Suddenly the kill ratio really perks up...surging several points higher. Then I deduct all rural areas from the statistical database. Suddenly it’s a tremendous number of deaths....mostly all in urban areas. Wonder why? Drug usage maybe?
OReilly Is OReally in Left Field on the Guns and Ammo Issue””
0’Pinhead is precisely what he seems to be to the careful observer...@nd, worse even....
Semper B$ !!!!!
And it only takes less than a minute to find this on the internet... "On September 15th, 1988, a 13-year veteran of the Dayton, Ohio police department, Patrolman Roger Waller, then 32, used his fully automatic MAC-11 .380 caliber submachine gun to kill a police informant, 52-year-old Lawrence Hileman. Patrolman Waller pleaded guilty in 1990, and he and an accomplice were sentenced to 18 years in prison." This from http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091002085916AAGkj65
However, BOR or his research staff are too busy... to take that minute to find out the facts--
I predict this punk O’reilly will be working for MSNBC before its all over and done with.
When an article leads off with the quote on gun control Hitler never made I jump ship right there.
If the author is this sloppy what’s next?
I predict you’re wrong
O’Reilly has been playing nice with obama for a while now. I cant watch him any more. Cavuto on Fox Business is a better alternative at that hour. Lou Dobbs is the man over at Fox in my opinion.
I so called conservatives just stopped watching bill... he would go away.
IIRC, BOR's degree is an MPA. Bragging that he's a "Harvard Guy" akin to Olbermann's bragging about being a "Cornell Guy".
Both are making true, but extremely misleading statements.
It's funny that I don't recall any successful municipality brag about being run by someone with an MPA in general, let alone from Harvard.
Given the mess that many cities and towns find themselves in, "willful disbelief" must be a core course in ignoring Constitutional Law, and ignoring fiduciary duty when negotiating with unions.
Why people watch that dime store populist in the first place, I’ve no idea. Facts are not obstacles to O’Reilly reaching his hare-brained opinions.
BOR is Borrrrrrrrrring.
It's bad enough he simply can't keep his own mouth shut but he also constantly talks all over his frustrated guests and spouts hooey. He makes Ted Baxter look like a TV genius.
The man is a legend in his own mind but is increasingly less so to those still suffering in his viewing audience.
My favorite segment of the factor is The Great American News Quiz, which is on Thursdays. My least is that instead of having a conservative and a liberal discuss their viewpoints he has 2 liberals discuss their viewpoints with him
Who really are these morons that ‘Fn’ watch BOR?
Supposedly he is the top Faux News star.
“The condescending pompous bastard is a moron.”
Agreed. I stopped watching BOR long ago. Could not take his constant ‘cutting’ off his guests, before they finished what they had to say. Rude, rude, rude.
This is evidence that his talking points are based on his personal emotions rather than actual facts.
Don’t be a sucker and look dumb:
“This year will go down in history. For the first time a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient and the world will follow our lead into the future. Adolf Hitler, 1935”
Simply google the quote and see that is fake. The Nazis loved guns, and gun confiscation occurred at the END of WWII, and was implemented by the Allies.
Why not make the world safe for gunowners and all truly peace/freedom/decency loving “folks” (the real folks) !!!!!
Semper Wondering !!!!!
I understand...I turn to BOR only when their is nothing else to watch...and no baseball on TV
I make it about 10 minutes and realize a blank TV screen is preferable to listening to this blowhard...
I just mute my TV until another segment comes on. I have noticed however that the hour passes very slowly, while it goes very fast on Hannity.
I suppose you would like to argue that point with my mother who grew up in Nazi Germany?
BOR is a NYC liberal just like all of the Fox people. You would think Sean is a liberal with all the liberals on his show. His guess make the show terrible. I am tired of listening to the liberals lie on TV. I don’t care about their opinion. It is all lies.
The first 10 minutes are the only worthwhile part of O’s show, Talking poinst and guest/debate.
Then it’s into quiz shows, legal talk, culture warriors, jesse waters interviewing kids, comedian routines, and now tips from uncle bill (eat blueberries). No thanks.
I am tired of listening to the liberals lie on TV. I dont care about their opinion. It is all lies.Flawed premises, hidden agendas, doublethink, and duckspeak.
That's what all their "opinions" are.
Like most of O’Reilly’s stuff: populist gruel without much thought. When he doesn’t know what he’s talking about he just talks louder.
Ted Baxter leaning left on guns. What a shock!!! He’s just looking out for the folks dontcha know.
I just never saw it I guess. Thanks for the link.
After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away from the people who didn’t do it.
Great line, I’m going to keep it and use it regularly
I can’t understand how BOR has an audience of people who call themselves conservatives. He is an anti business, anti 2nd ammendment, self worshipping bloviator.
His constant bragging about his Harvard degrees is funny. He is as bright as ALgore another Harvard grad
I too like the news quizz...lots of good laughs, and I really enjoy Miller Time.
That’s easy. He’s the one with his arm around Ted Knight’s neck.
I love it that Rush calls him that. BOR hasn’t ever acknowleged the slur or he would be slaughtered in a confrontation with the conservative master spokesman
I don’t think libs realize how many guns there actually are in the U.S. Even if they somehow managed to confiscate every handgun and “assault” rifle, that would still leave many millions of hunting rifles and shotguns. Do the morons not believe that a crazed killer would simply purchase several shotguns, saw off the barrels to hide under a jacket, and slaughter a lot of people? In fact, Holmes did use a shotgun in his murderous attack. So now they’ve got to confiscate ALL!!! firearms. In which case (and it’s happened before) a crazed killer will simply buy some very long sharp knives, and kill a bunch of people. I guess we’d have to outlaw knives after something like that.
If there's any segment of Hannity's programs my wife and I hate worse than others, it's his habit of having a lib and a conservative shout at each other. We absolutely can't tolerate the shouting and screaming for more than 2 seconds. Hannity has to stop having these shout-fests or we simply won't watch him. And if he's going to have a lib on his program, let the lib deliver his or her talking points and then reply. I can't stand it when he talks over his guests...something he does constantly.
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