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O’Reilly Is O’Really in Left Field on the Guns and Ammo Issue
Townhall. com ^ | July 29, 2012 | Doug Giles

Posted on 07/29/2012 4:58:30 AM PDT by Kaslin

“This year will go down in history. For the first time a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient and the world will follow our lead into the future.” —Adolf Hitler, 1935

When I shout at the TV it’s usually because of one of these three reasons:

1. Noticing that Bob Beckel has just dyed his hair a shade of ginger that Carrot Top would eschew. What shade is that, man? Clairol’s “Rusted Barn Pipe” especially blended for the sassy progressive?

2. Seeing Roseanne Barr on the tube braying her insanity, on any subject, will also get me throwing cigar ashtrays at my flat screen and howling like a Bluetick on a fresh coon track.

3. And lastly, always guaranteed to get a screech out of me, is when I happen to see Jan Crouch sitting on a gold TBN pagoda sporting a wig that makes her the envy of RuPaul.

However, this past week I was hollering at Bill O’Reilly. Normally, I respect and enjoy Bill’s take on pressing issues, but OMG was O’Reilly out in leftist field on the guns and ammo issue.

On Monday, July 23rd’s Talking Points, O’Reilly made some outrageous and erroneous statements about guns and gun purchases. They were so misleading that I was wondering if Michael Moore was moonlighting as a writer for The Factor.

Initially Bill got off to a good start stating, “[Bill] Moyers has no clue, no clue at all. He apparently believes that federal and state governments can actually control gun crimes. That’s so dumb it hurts.” But then he follows up this statement with some of the most uninformed Talking Points that I have witnessed on his show, and yes, I am a regular viewer. Check it out …

O’Reilly: “Anyone who sells a heavy weapon or ammo should be compelled to report the sale to the FBI. It’s a felony if you don’t. That’s what we should have in the U.S.A. and it just makes sense in this age of terrorism. Right now some gun dealers do background checks but nobody reports the sale of heavy weapons like AK-47s to the feds. That’s insane.”

Bill, if you purchase an AK-47 today at a gun store, you will be required to fill out Federal Form 4473. On this form, you will answer a barrage of questions about your criminal history and citizenship. On page 2, section D, the form lists the type, model number, manufacturer, serial number, etc. of the firearm that is being purchased.

If a licensed gun dealer does not accurately complete this form, he would face penalties up to and including prison time. All dealers are required to complete this form for every firearm purchase. This form is a BATFE form, and if they do not talk to the FBI, then that is a problem between those agencies and not gun purchasers.

As it relates to purchases of ammo, the idea that one would report the hundreds of millions of rounds of ammunition sold yearly would take an army of federal employees to process the information. I would wager that they would catch as many criminals as the TSA has caught potential terrorists by groping Granny. However, they would be able to compile a great list of people like me who shoot regularly and buy their ammunition in bulk. That list would include my cowboy action shooting friends, trap and skeet shooters, prairie dog hunters, individual police officers, military personnel, gun collectors, reloaders and so on. Keeping lists of law-abiding citizens does not stop killers bent on bedlam.

Bill’s next ditty was so outrageous that it is near impossible to comment on without laughing. O’Reilly: “Terrorists could just move in here, buy bazookas and the FBI doesn’t know about it. Here is how crazy this is. If you take a flight lesson, the feds get a heads up. But you can buy a machine gun and they don’t know.”

Bazookas and machine guns are commonly referred to as class III weapons and/or destructive devices, which require a very special license to own. Yep, it’s a wee bit different than buying a Ruger 10/22. The “Feds” have been licensing machine guns since 1934. To own a machine gun, one must first live in a state where it is legal, and then complete a Federal licensing process that, as I understand, takes a few months. On top of the aforementioned, get ready to drop about ten grand because the manufacturing of new guns has been banned for years. To the best of my knowledge, only one legally owned machine gun has been used in a crime in the U.S. since 1934, and the owner was a member of the law enforcement community.

Another thing I was howling over was O’Reilly calling an AK-47 a “heavy weapon.” Heavy weapon? Uh … not hardly. Granted, I wouldn’t want any round from a .22LR up inside of my body, but the pipsqueak little 7.62x39 is hardly considered a heavy caliber by anyone who knows anything about guns.

Then to cap off Bill’s misinformation, the following night O’Reilly stepped in it again by wrongfully asserting that the Aurora jackwagon who shot up the theater ordered “60,000 rounds of ammo over the Internet.” Bill screamed that several times … “60,000 rounds!” Wrong again. Holmes ordered 6,000 rounds, and not one ton of ammo.

Look, folks can try to ban semi-automatic weapons and limit ammo sales all day long, but criminals will always be able to get their paws on them. The only thing that would have stopped James Holmes would have been a bullet to his head by an armed citizen who, in this case, was unfortunately banned from entering the theater.

“After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away from the people who didn't do it.”

—William S. Burroughs

This piece was co-authored by Steve Sheldon.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: americanguns; aurorashooting; guns; orino; secondamendment
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1 posted on 07/29/2012 4:58:39 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

O’Gasbag in Left field?

Whod’a thunk it?


2 posted on 07/29/2012 5:00:58 AM PDT by sauropod (You can elect your very own tyranny - Mark Levin)
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To: Kaslin

He proved going to Harvard makes people ignorant.


3 posted on 07/29/2012 5:05:24 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: sauropod
Rush has BORe pegged

with apologies to Ted Knight

Find O'Reilly

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4 posted on 07/29/2012 5:06:32 AM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: Kaslin

Too many box seat games with the Mayor for BOR. The only way he will see the light on any issue is if and when it finally affects him personally. EVERY FARGGIN’ TIME!

Remember how long he scoffed at media bias until it hit him right between the eyes? Remember his love fest with Obama the candidate until he was singled out by the subsequent White House?

He calls himself an independent and then wants to argue with Stossell?

Nope, BOR is just his own animal who will feed at any trough that feeds his ego until he gets a mouthful of gravel. Then he’ll find another.


5 posted on 07/29/2012 5:06:32 AM PDT by mazda77 ("Defeating the Totalitarian Lie" By: Hilmar von Campe. Everybody should read it.)
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To: bigbob
He proved going to Harvard makes people ignorant.

I would assume that is where they teach that "willful disbelief" thingy that Hitlery spoke about. Seems to be pervasive from anyone attending classes there.

6 posted on 07/29/2012 5:09:32 AM PDT by mazda77 ("Defeating the Totalitarian Lie" By: Hilmar von Campe. Everybody should read it.)
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To: mazda77

Did BOR earn a Gold Medal again in the felafels and loofahs competition?


7 posted on 07/29/2012 5:09:55 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Kaslin

You gather up all the statistics for the past thirty years in a database. You note each murder accomplished by a automatic rifle. At the end of your data product...you find that ban on automatic rifles back in 1980...would have saved around .05 of one percent of all the people killed by guns over the thirty year period.

You can use the logic that saving just one person....would amount to something, and I’d give you that credit. But after that point...might I suggest a different database search?

What if you deducted Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, Iowa, Nebraska, and Maine from your database? Suddenly the kill ratio really perks up...surging several points higher. Then I deduct all rural areas from the statistical database. Suddenly it’s a tremendous number of deaths....mostly all in urban areas. Wonder why? Drug usage maybe?


8 posted on 07/29/2012 5:11:02 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Kaslin

O’Reilly Is O’Really in Left Field on the Guns and Ammo Issue””

0’Pinhead is precisely what he seems to be to the careful observer...@nd, worse even....

Semper B$ !!!!!


9 posted on 07/29/2012 5:16:28 AM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: Kaslin; Allegra; big'ol_freeper; Lil'freeper; TrueKnightGalahad; blackie; Larry Lucido; Diplomat; ..
Re: Bazookas and machine guns are commonly referred to as class III weapons and/or destructive devices, which require a very special license to own. The “Feds” have been licensing machine guns since 1934. To own a machine gun, one must first live in a state where it is legal, and then complete a Federal licensing process that, as I understand, takes a few months. To the best of my knowledge, only one legally owned machine gun has been used in a crime in the U.S. since 1934, and the owner was a member of the law enforcement community.

And it only takes less than a minute to find this on the internet... "On September 15th, 1988, a 13-year veteran of the Dayton, Ohio police department, Patrolman Roger Waller, then 32, used his fully automatic MAC-11 .380 caliber submachine gun to kill a police informant, 52-year-old Lawrence Hileman. Patrolman Waller pleaded guilty in 1990, and he and an accomplice were sentenced to 18 years in prison." This from http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091002085916AAGkj65

However, BOR or his research staff are too busy... to take that minute to find out the facts--

10 posted on 07/29/2012 5:18:04 AM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Kaslin

I predict this punk O’reilly will be working for MSNBC before its all over and done with.


11 posted on 07/29/2012 5:19:08 AM PDT by yank in the UK ( A liberal mocking Christianity. I asked "why don't you mock Islam?" he replied "Muslims are violent)
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To: Kaslin

When an article leads off with the quote on gun control Hitler never made I jump ship right there.

If the author is this sloppy what’s next?


12 posted on 07/29/2012 5:22:34 AM PDT by 4buttons
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To: yank in the UK

I predict you’re wrong


13 posted on 07/29/2012 5:31:53 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin
Not to defend Bill O, but he grew up in NYS and is clueless about guns and brainwashed by our politicians as to what an assault weapon is. I, a mere girl, would probably be clueless as well were it not for my brother and father who taught me to shoot starting with a .22 at age 10, my brother was in the Marine Corp and collects, shoots and sells all sorts of modern and antique guns. He invented some sort of site thingy and whatever company it was changed their sites and have him on speed dial! He managed to get a conceal and carry permit or whatever it's called in NYS. When I was 18 he had me shooting his AR-15 and wanted me to
get into shooting because I could hit a bullseye at 100 yds. I didn't mind shooting but as a sport it was just to slow for me. As soon as the Aurora shootings took place, and I called my bro, he explained how clueless newsreaders are about guns and ammunition, which I knew because he's taught me these things before.
14 posted on 07/29/2012 5:34:20 AM PDT by MacMattico
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To: Kaslin

O’Reilly has been playing nice with obama for a while now. I cant watch him any more. Cavuto on Fox Business is a better alternative at that hour. Lou Dobbs is the man over at Fox in my opinion.


15 posted on 07/29/2012 5:38:40 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: Kaslin
O’Reilly the always right guy OK OK OK, is in the left field bleachers about everything. The condescending pompous bastard is a moron.
16 posted on 07/29/2012 5:40:56 AM PDT by boomop1 (term limits will only save this country.)
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To: Kaslin

I so called conservatives just stopped watching bill... he would go away.

LLS


17 posted on 07/29/2012 5:45:57 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: mazda77; bigbob
I would assume that is where they teach that "willful disbelief" thingy that Hitlery spoke about.

IIRC, BOR's degree is an MPA. Bragging that he's a "Harvard Guy" akin to Olbermann's bragging about being a "Cornell Guy".

Both are making true, but extremely misleading statements.

It's funny that I don't recall any successful municipality brag about being run by someone with an MPA in general, let alone from Harvard.

Given the mess that many cities and towns find themselves in, "willful disbelief" must be a core course in ignoring Constitutional Law, and ignoring fiduciary duty when negotiating with unions.

18 posted on 07/29/2012 5:51:36 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Kaslin

Why people watch that dime store populist in the first place, I’ve no idea. Facts are not obstacles to O’Reilly reaching his hare-brained opinions.


19 posted on 07/29/2012 5:56:31 AM PDT by risen_feenix
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To: Kaslin

BOR is Borrrrrrrrrring.


20 posted on 07/29/2012 5:58:35 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Kaslin
Every time I think I can go back to watching Bill O'Blowhard he says something stupid and outrageous like this and then I turn him off for another month.

It's bad enough he simply can't keep his own mouth shut but he also constantly talks all over his frustrated guests and spouts hooey. He makes Ted Baxter look like a TV genius.

The man is a legend in his own mind but is increasingly less so to those still suffering in his viewing audience.

21 posted on 07/29/2012 6:02:07 AM PDT by Gritty (To prevent mass shootings we must ratchet down the firepower available to civilians-Brady Campaign)
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To: LibLieSlayer

My favorite segment of the factor is The Great American News Quiz, which is on Thursdays. My least is that instead of having a conservative and a liberal discuss their viewpoints he has 2 liberals discuss their viewpoints with him


22 posted on 07/29/2012 6:02:35 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: yank in the UK

Who really are these morons that ‘Fn’ watch BOR?

http://www.oreilly-sucks.com/

Supposedly he is the top Faux News star.


23 posted on 07/29/2012 6:03:27 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: boomop1

“The condescending pompous bastard is a moron.”
Agreed. I stopped watching BOR long ago. Could not take his constant ‘cutting’ off his guests, before they finished what they had to say. Rude, rude, rude.


24 posted on 07/29/2012 6:03:46 AM PDT by duckman (Dr Ben Carlson: Vision Not Division.)
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To: Kaslin

This is evidence that his talking points are based on his personal emotions rather than actual facts.


25 posted on 07/29/2012 6:04:28 AM PDT by kempster
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To: kempster

Don’t be a sucker and look dumb:
““This year will go down in history. For the first time a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient and the world will follow our lead into the future.” —Adolf Hitler, 1935”

Simply google the quote and see that is fake. The Nazis loved guns, and gun confiscation occurred at the END of WWII, and was implemented by the Allies.


26 posted on 07/29/2012 6:08:07 AM PDT by mountaineer1997
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To: Kaslin

Why not make the world safe for gunowners and all truly peace/freedom/decency loving “folks” (the real folks) !!!!!

Semper Wondering !!!!!
*****


27 posted on 07/29/2012 6:11:10 AM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: Gritty
Every time I think I can go back to watching Bill O'Blowhard he says something stupid and outrageous like this and then I turn him off for another month.

I understand...I turn to BOR only when their is nothing else to watch...and no baseball on TV

I make it about 10 minutes and realize a blank TV screen is preferable to listening to this blowhard...

28 posted on 07/29/2012 6:14:13 AM PDT by Popman (In a place you only dream of Where your soul is always free)
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To: Gritty

I just mute my TV until another segment comes on. I have noticed however that the hour passes very slowly, while it goes very fast on Hannity.


29 posted on 07/29/2012 6:19:37 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin
The sad thing is that he is talented but he refuses to change his mind when he is wrong and shown wrong. He is highly successful but he could be so much more if his mind were just a bit more open. The News Quiz is something new since I quit watching him. Sounds interesting. The two liberal talking heads is just two too many!

LLS

30 posted on 07/29/2012 6:22:32 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: Kaslin
Thanks for the post. What a shame that you diluted its value with that phony lead-in quote from Hitler.
31 posted on 07/29/2012 6:24:44 AM PDT by Buffalo Head (Illigitimi non carborundum)
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To: LibLieSlayer
Actually the Great American News Quiz goes back to April 3, 2007

Great American News Quiz Archive

32 posted on 07/29/2012 7:04:30 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: mountaineer1997
The Nazis loved guns, and gun confiscation occurred at the END of WWII

I suppose you would like to argue that point with my mother who grew up in Nazi Germany?

33 posted on 07/29/2012 7:12:54 AM PDT by mazda77 ("Defeating the Totalitarian Lie" By: Hilmar von Campe. Everybody should read it.)
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To: Kaslin

BOR is a NYC liberal just like all of the Fox people. You would think Sean is a liberal with all the liberals on his show. His guess make the show terrible. I am tired of listening to the liberals lie on TV. I don’t care about their opinion. It is all lies.


34 posted on 07/29/2012 7:16:46 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Corollary - Electing the same person over and over and expecting a different outcome is insanity)
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To: Kaslin

The first 10 minutes are the only worthwhile part of O’s show, Talking poinst and guest/debate.

Then it’s into quiz shows, legal talk, culture warriors, jesse waters interviewing kids, comedian routines, and now tips from uncle bill (eat blueberries). No thanks.


35 posted on 07/29/2012 7:21:23 AM PDT by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else)
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To: bmwcyle
I am tired of listening to the liberals lie on TV. I don’t care about their opinion. It is all lies.
Flawed premises, hidden agendas, doublethink, and duckspeak.

That's what all their "opinions" are.

36 posted on 07/29/2012 7:22:58 AM PDT by samtheman (Obama. Mugabe. Chavez. (Obamugavez))
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To: Kaslin

Like most of O’Reilly’s stuff: populist gruel without much thought. When he doesn’t know what he’s talking about he just talks louder.


37 posted on 07/29/2012 7:28:06 AM PDT by EXACE
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To: bmwcyle
I am tired of listening to the liberals lie on TV. I don’t care about their opinion. It is all lies.

Yep. That's why I hate listening to Hannity on the radio. He always has his leftist talking head pals on (Lanny Davis, Juan Williams, Beckel) and then opens up phone lines to a bunch of libtard seminar callers.

That's why I like Levin and Rush. They don't put up with the crap (i.e. get off the phone ya big dope). If I wanted the left's viewpoint I'd watch CNN or MSNBC. Please. I know their views. They are all built on lies.
38 posted on 07/29/2012 7:30:02 AM PDT by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else)
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To: Kaslin

Ted Baxter leaning left on guns. What a shock!!! He’s just looking out for the folks dontcha know.


39 posted on 07/29/2012 7:43:55 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Kaslin
Maybe he has picked up the “olberman” syndrome.
40 posted on 07/29/2012 7:47:13 AM PDT by Gertie
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To: Kaslin
Would be nice to have “Bills” E-mail address so “Freepers” could remind him what “Bloviating” really is, thanks for a great read.
41 posted on 07/29/2012 7:50:45 AM PDT by Gertie
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To: Kaslin

I just never saw it I guess. Thanks for the link.

LLS


42 posted on 07/29/2012 7:51:27 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: Kaslin

“After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away from the people who didn’t do it.”

Great line, I’m going to keep it and use it regularly


43 posted on 07/29/2012 8:29:58 AM PDT by Figment
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To: Kaslin

I can’t understand how BOR has an audience of people who call themselves conservatives. He is an anti business, anti 2nd ammendment, self worshipping bloviator.


44 posted on 07/29/2012 8:34:56 AM PDT by Figment
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To: bigbob

His constant bragging about his Harvard degrees is funny. He is as bright as ALgore another Harvard grad


45 posted on 07/29/2012 8:37:28 AM PDT by Figment
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To: Kaslin

I too like the news quizz...lots of good laughs, and I really enjoy Miller Time.


46 posted on 07/29/2012 8:38:18 AM PDT by Cuttnhorse
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To: Elle Bee

That’s easy. He’s the one with his arm around Ted Knight’s neck.


47 posted on 07/29/2012 8:40:07 AM PDT by SKI NOW
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To: Elle Bee

I love it that Rush calls him that. BOR hasn’t ever acknowleged the slur or he would be slaughtered in a confrontation with the conservative master spokesman


48 posted on 07/29/2012 8:41:00 AM PDT by Figment
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To: pepsionice

I don’t think libs realize how many guns there actually are in the U.S. Even if they somehow managed to confiscate every handgun and “assault” rifle, that would still leave many millions of hunting rifles and shotguns. Do the morons not believe that a crazed killer would simply purchase several shotguns, saw off the barrels to hide under a jacket, and slaughter a lot of people? In fact, Holmes did use a shotgun in his murderous attack. So now they’ve got to confiscate ALL!!! firearms. In which case (and it’s happened before) a crazed killer will simply buy some very long sharp knives, and kill a bunch of people. I guess we’d have to outlaw knives after something like that.


49 posted on 07/29/2012 8:54:47 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: nhwingut
"Hannity"

If there's any segment of Hannity's programs my wife and I hate worse than others, it's his habit of having a lib and a conservative shout at each other. We absolutely can't tolerate the shouting and screaming for more than 2 seconds. Hannity has to stop having these shout-fests or we simply won't watch him. And if he's going to have a lib on his program, let the lib deliver his or her talking points and then reply. I can't stand it when he talks over his guests...something he does constantly.

50 posted on 07/29/2012 9:01:39 AM PDT by driftless2
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