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O’Reilly Is O’Really in Left Field on the Guns and Ammo Issue
Townhall. com ^ | July 29, 2012 | Doug Giles

Posted on 07/29/2012 4:58:30 AM PDT by Kaslin

“This year will go down in history. For the first time a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient and the world will follow our lead into the future.” —Adolf Hitler, 1935

When I shout at the TV it’s usually because of one of these three reasons:

1. Noticing that Bob Beckel has just dyed his hair a shade of ginger that Carrot Top would eschew. What shade is that, man? Clairol’s “Rusted Barn Pipe” especially blended for the sassy progressive?

2. Seeing Roseanne Barr on the tube braying her insanity, on any subject, will also get me throwing cigar ashtrays at my flat screen and howling like a Bluetick on a fresh coon track.

3. And lastly, always guaranteed to get a screech out of me, is when I happen to see Jan Crouch sitting on a gold TBN pagoda sporting a wig that makes her the envy of RuPaul.

However, this past week I was hollering at Bill O’Reilly. Normally, I respect and enjoy Bill’s take on pressing issues, but OMG was O’Reilly out in leftist field on the guns and ammo issue.

On Monday, July 23rd’s Talking Points, O’Reilly made some outrageous and erroneous statements about guns and gun purchases. They were so misleading that I was wondering if Michael Moore was moonlighting as a writer for The Factor.

Initially Bill got off to a good start stating, “[Bill] Moyers has no clue, no clue at all. He apparently believes that federal and state governments can actually control gun crimes. That’s so dumb it hurts.” But then he follows up this statement with some of the most uninformed Talking Points that I have witnessed on his show, and yes, I am a regular viewer. Check it out …

O’Reilly: “Anyone who sells a heavy weapon or ammo should be compelled to report the sale to the FBI. It’s a felony if you don’t. That’s what we should have in the U.S.A. and it just makes sense in this age of terrorism. Right now some gun dealers do background checks but nobody reports the sale of heavy weapons like AK-47s to the feds. That’s insane.”

Bill, if you purchase an AK-47 today at a gun store, you will be required to fill out Federal Form 4473. On this form, you will answer a barrage of questions about your criminal history and citizenship. On page 2, section D, the form lists the type, model number, manufacturer, serial number, etc. of the firearm that is being purchased.

If a licensed gun dealer does not accurately complete this form, he would face penalties up to and including prison time. All dealers are required to complete this form for every firearm purchase. This form is a BATFE form, and if they do not talk to the FBI, then that is a problem between those agencies and not gun purchasers.

As it relates to purchases of ammo, the idea that one would report the hundreds of millions of rounds of ammunition sold yearly would take an army of federal employees to process the information. I would wager that they would catch as many criminals as the TSA has caught potential terrorists by groping Granny. However, they would be able to compile a great list of people like me who shoot regularly and buy their ammunition in bulk. That list would include my cowboy action shooting friends, trap and skeet shooters, prairie dog hunters, individual police officers, military personnel, gun collectors, reloaders and so on. Keeping lists of law-abiding citizens does not stop killers bent on bedlam.

Bill’s next ditty was so outrageous that it is near impossible to comment on without laughing. O’Reilly: “Terrorists could just move in here, buy bazookas and the FBI doesn’t know about it. Here is how crazy this is. If you take a flight lesson, the feds get a heads up. But you can buy a machine gun and they don’t know.”

Bazookas and machine guns are commonly referred to as class III weapons and/or destructive devices, which require a very special license to own. Yep, it’s a wee bit different than buying a Ruger 10/22. The “Feds” have been licensing machine guns since 1934. To own a machine gun, one must first live in a state where it is legal, and then complete a Federal licensing process that, as I understand, takes a few months. On top of the aforementioned, get ready to drop about ten grand because the manufacturing of new guns has been banned for years. To the best of my knowledge, only one legally owned machine gun has been used in a crime in the U.S. since 1934, and the owner was a member of the law enforcement community.

Another thing I was howling over was O’Reilly calling an AK-47 a “heavy weapon.” Heavy weapon? Uh … not hardly. Granted, I wouldn’t want any round from a .22LR up inside of my body, but the pipsqueak little 7.62x39 is hardly considered a heavy caliber by anyone who knows anything about guns.

Then to cap off Bill’s misinformation, the following night O’Reilly stepped in it again by wrongfully asserting that the Aurora jackwagon who shot up the theater ordered “60,000 rounds of ammo over the Internet.” Bill screamed that several times … “60,000 rounds!” Wrong again. Holmes ordered 6,000 rounds, and not one ton of ammo.

Look, folks can try to ban semi-automatic weapons and limit ammo sales all day long, but criminals will always be able to get their paws on them. The only thing that would have stopped James Holmes would have been a bullet to his head by an armed citizen who, in this case, was unfortunately banned from entering the theater.

“After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away from the people who didn't do it.”

—William S. Burroughs

This piece was co-authored by Steve Sheldon.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: americanguns; aurorashooting; guns; orino; secondamendment
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To: Kaslin
Would be nice to have “Bills” E-mail address so “Freepers” could remind him what “Bloviating” really is, thanks for a great read.
41 posted on 07/29/2012 7:50:45 AM PDT by Gertie
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To: Kaslin

I just never saw it I guess. Thanks for the link.

LLS


42 posted on 07/29/2012 7:51:27 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: Kaslin

“After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away from the people who didn’t do it.”

Great line, I’m going to keep it and use it regularly


43 posted on 07/29/2012 8:29:58 AM PDT by Figment
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To: Kaslin

I can’t understand how BOR has an audience of people who call themselves conservatives. He is an anti business, anti 2nd ammendment, self worshipping bloviator.


44 posted on 07/29/2012 8:34:56 AM PDT by Figment
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To: bigbob

His constant bragging about his Harvard degrees is funny. He is as bright as ALgore another Harvard grad


45 posted on 07/29/2012 8:37:28 AM PDT by Figment
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To: Kaslin

I too like the news quizz...lots of good laughs, and I really enjoy Miller Time.


46 posted on 07/29/2012 8:38:18 AM PDT by Cuttnhorse
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To: Elle Bee

That’s easy. He’s the one with his arm around Ted Knight’s neck.


47 posted on 07/29/2012 8:40:07 AM PDT by SKI NOW
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To: Elle Bee

I love it that Rush calls him that. BOR hasn’t ever acknowleged the slur or he would be slaughtered in a confrontation with the conservative master spokesman


48 posted on 07/29/2012 8:41:00 AM PDT by Figment
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To: pepsionice

I don’t think libs realize how many guns there actually are in the U.S. Even if they somehow managed to confiscate every handgun and “assault” rifle, that would still leave many millions of hunting rifles and shotguns. Do the morons not believe that a crazed killer would simply purchase several shotguns, saw off the barrels to hide under a jacket, and slaughter a lot of people? In fact, Holmes did use a shotgun in his murderous attack. So now they’ve got to confiscate ALL!!! firearms. In which case (and it’s happened before) a crazed killer will simply buy some very long sharp knives, and kill a bunch of people. I guess we’d have to outlaw knives after something like that.


49 posted on 07/29/2012 8:54:47 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: nhwingut
"Hannity"

If there's any segment of Hannity's programs my wife and I hate worse than others, it's his habit of having a lib and a conservative shout at each other. We absolutely can't tolerate the shouting and screaming for more than 2 seconds. Hannity has to stop having these shout-fests or we simply won't watch him. And if he's going to have a lib on his program, let the lib deliver his or her talking points and then reply. I can't stand it when he talks over his guests...something he does constantly.

50 posted on 07/29/2012 9:01:39 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: Kaslin
O'Reilly is a pompous blowhard who knows NOTHING about guns. He would be terribly upset if he realized how stupid he sounded. But like most pompous blowhards, he is blissfully ignorant about the subject.

I think he is due for some serious ridicule on this subject, although his hyper-flated ego probably makes it impossible for him to learn from it.

51 posted on 07/29/2012 10:20:24 AM PDT by Kenton
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To: SKI NOW
why do so many insult the chimp?

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52 posted on 07/29/2012 10:24:14 AM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: Kaslin

Bill O’Really comes from a long line of Irish cops, teachers, firemen, and other government union slugs of all sorts.

While the general public does appreciate their service, we also recognize their limitations.

O’Really is simply a school marm with a national soapbox.


53 posted on 07/29/2012 11:16:37 AM PDT by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: Kaslin

The Hitler citation is incorrect, a fabrication.

“In 1919 and 1920, to stabilize the country and in part to comply with the Treaty of Versailles, the German Weimar government passed very strict gun ownership restrictions. Article 169 of the Treaty of Versailles stated, “Within two months from the coming into force of the present Treaty, German arms, munitions, and war material, including anti-aircraft material, existing in Germany in excess of the quantities allowed, must be surrendered to the Governments of the Principal Allied and Associated Powers to be destroyed or rendered useless.”

In 1919, the German government passed the Regulations on Weapons Ownership, which declared that “all firearms, as well as all kinds of firearms ammunition, are to be surrendered immediately.” Under the regulations, anyone found in possession of a firearm or ammunition was subject to five years’ imprisonment and a fine of 100,000 marks.

On August 7, 1920, the German government enacted a second gun-regulation law called the Law on the Disarmament of the People. It put into effect the provisions of the Versailles Treaty in regard to the limit on military-type weapons.

In 1928, the German government enacted the Law on Firearms and Ammunition. This law relaxed gun restrictions and put into effect a strict firearm licensing scheme. Under this scheme, Germans could possess firearms, but they were required to have separate permits to do the following: own or sell firearms, carry firearms (including handguns), manufacture firearms, and professionally deal in firearms and ammunition. This law explicitly revoked the 1919 Regulations on Weapons Ownership, which had banned all firearms possession.

Stephen Halbrook writes about the German gun restriction laws in the 1919-1928 period, “Within a decade, Germany had gone from a brutal firearms seizure policy which, in times of unrest, entailed selective yet immediate execution for mere possession of a firearm, to a modern, comprehensive gun control law.”

It was noted that the Weimar government was not generous in issuing gun permits to the public, so when the Nazis came into power they needed no new gun laws, they just continued the policy of rarely issuing gun permits. They only enacted their gun law of 1938 so that, under no circumstance would Jews be issued guns.”


54 posted on 07/29/2012 11:25:06 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Elle Bee

Yup. He sure does!


55 posted on 07/29/2012 12:07:42 PM PDT by sauropod (You can elect your very own tyranny - Mark Levin)
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To: driftless2

What I find amazing is that when it is already a felony with penalties up to and including death to kill people for no reason we have a bunch of ninnies who think they are smart calling for a ban on just one tool that can be used to kill people. Apparently there were no murders before the invention of gunpowder.


56 posted on 07/30/2012 4:59:07 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Free healthcare is worth FAR LESS than it costs.)
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To: mazda77

He calls himself an independent and then wants to argue with Stossell?

Nope, BOR is just his own animal who will feed at any trough that feeds his ego until he gets a mouthful of gravel. Then he’ll find another.


So True. O’Gas bag played footsie with Obama during interviewing.

He let him rope a dope him, and use a smoother version of schuck and jive to
make it look like he is a nice guy.

Replace O Really with Michelle Malkin or Laura Ingrahm and we will have a great show.


57 posted on 07/30/2012 5:23:43 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: Bender2

Maybe Bill is tight with Bloomberg; another brain dead liberal???


58 posted on 07/30/2012 9:01:41 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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