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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 29 July 2012
Various driveby media television networks ^ | 29 July 2012 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 07/29/2012 5:08:23 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!

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To: Cheerio

I understand what this article says and why it might be right. But it might also be wrong for numerous reasons. I’d like to see an audit of the fed to begin with and then let Ron Paul and others debate the reasoning of what to change and the effects of such a change.


151 posted on 07/29/2012 11:46:00 AM PDT by Morgan in Denver (Democrats: The law of unintended consequences in action.)
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To: maica
You're correct about Mitt's personality. He actually has one !... to many's surprise. A bit straight-laced, as my stereotypical image of a Mormon would be. His vast experiences shows in so many ways that I sense he's comfortable in the role of next President. I think it's clear Obie can't redux.

He clearly is more comfortable, too, when with his better half.....and she may well indeed be a better half. Ann will be an asset.

I'm not displeased with what I'm hearing, or seeing from the Romneys. I guess that's safe to say here, now that the primary is over.

152 posted on 07/29/2012 11:46:13 AM PDT by chiller (More T-Partiers needed, especially in the Senate)
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To: Chgogal

Good idea. I probably should.


153 posted on 07/29/2012 11:48:32 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: Morgan in Denver

Coffee only goes so far,(although Starbucks is pretty good stuff)I’m still amazed that it wasn’t me that screwed up for a change.
I’m gonna miss Batman toady, maybe late on in the week.


154 posted on 07/29/2012 11:58:34 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: Girlene

Thanks I gotta read that book. Looks like a possible treasure trove.


155 posted on 07/29/2012 12:00:25 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: Alas Babylon!

I like the nuggets, and the noodle soup.


156 posted on 07/29/2012 12:11:10 PM PDT by mathluv ( Conservative first and foremost, republican second)
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To: rodguy911
http://www.inc.com/news/articles/200708/data.html

Small Businesses Responsible for Nearly All New Jobs
Aug 16, 2007

“Businesses with fewer than 20 employees account for 90 percent of all U.S. firms and are responsible for more than 97 percent of all new jobs, according to a new report by the Small Business Administration.”

157 posted on 07/29/2012 12:14:30 PM PDT by Chgogal (WSJ, Coulter, Kristol, Krauthammer, Rove et al., STFU. TY)
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To: rodguy911

After 15 months not drinking coffee, I’m starting slow. Just on weekends.

Starbucks? That stuff is poison! I’ve had two cups of it a and I almost died because it was so strong.

Batman?


158 posted on 07/29/2012 12:20:53 PM PDT by Morgan in Denver (Democrats: The law of unintended consequences in action.)
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To: Chgogal

I hate it when articles like this are not dated. FYI, I did look around and found this was written August 16, 2007.


159 posted on 07/29/2012 12:31:51 PM PDT by Morgan in Denver (Democrats: The law of unintended consequences in action.)
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To: nuancey

Wow, that is huge. What industry are you in and what has he done to damage it?


160 posted on 07/29/2012 12:32:48 PM PDT by bray (If you vote for a Communist, what's that make you?)
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To: Chgogal

?

Didn’t you see the date above the title on the right hand side?

I also posted the date in my post.


161 posted on 07/29/2012 12:37:50 PM PDT by Chgogal (WSJ, Coulter, Kristol, Krauthammer, Rove et al., STFU. TY)
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To: Chgogal

I didn’t at first because I limit Java Scripts from running on my computer. Once I turned that back on it came up. Oh well, thanks for the jogging me for my browser settings.


162 posted on 07/29/2012 12:41:01 PM PDT by Morgan in Denver (Democrats: The law of unintended consequences in action.)
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To: Alas Babylon!
Chick-fil-A does have a grilled chicken sandwich plain and deluxe...check out their menu online, and the nutrition section, with a breakdown of calories, fat, sodium, etc.
163 posted on 07/29/2012 12:47:43 PM PDT by itssme
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To: itssme

Yeah. I try to avoid the bread if I can so nix the sandwich part. Kinda the opposite of Jack Nicholson in Five Easy Pieces. I WANT the chicken, not the toast!


164 posted on 07/29/2012 12:58:38 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!

Gibbs lecturing Romney on embarrassing America belongs on the comedy channel. Gibbs was an embarrassment every time he opened his mouth in the WH.

Pray for America


165 posted on 07/29/2012 1:01:11 PM PDT by bray (If you vote for a Communist, what's that make you?)
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To: bray; nuancey
What industry are you in and what has he done to damage it?

Sorry to butt in, but I've got thirty years or so of experience with this crap to back up anything I think you may have seen.

The business? Name just anything that pops into your head. Aerospace, Production machine manufacture, Light/Heavy manufacturing, Steel mills, Uranium mining, Consumer goods.....

The short and simple answer to "what has he done to damage it": Government regulations and court decisions, Federal, state or (in some of my jobs) tribal.

You could blame it on the Sierra Club, trial lawyers and the EPA (You certainly can't leave out the MSM, either), but that's just the most obvious names on the long, long list.

What it boils down to is a subculture that has been promoting communism/total state control in this country for at least the last forty years under the cover story of "protecting the environment".

The 0's just the latest and most successful in a long line of snake oil peddlers, primarily because there aren't any limits on the things that the EnviroCommies inside Federal agencies can try while he's nominally In Charge.

...at least until they're found out, publicly criticized for it and the WH decides it's going to affect a poll someplace.

You want a current example of the people, industries plus the EnviroCommies' Ways & Means, have a look at what they're attempting with "Fracking"....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2912080/posts

(I'm going to stop this now before I start REALLY getting PO'd.....)

166 posted on 07/29/2012 1:21:46 PM PDT by Unrepentant VN Vet ((176 and a wakeup) Truth, I know, always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition.)
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To: rodguy911
True and that “rich” category has to do with the tax code and who they say is “rich” regardless of whether the money is actually paid to the small business owner or not.Many of us take out only enough to get by so we can plow everything back into the business.

I apologize in advance for my ignorance --:( -- but I do recall reading that if a small business is organized as an S Corporation, the owner's reported income is misleading. If this is indeed the case, someone should explain it. Or maybe I misunderstood . . . all too possible . . .

167 posted on 07/29/2012 1:46:35 PM PDT by maryz
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To: Alas Babylon!
Depending where I'm eating the chicken, I'll either omit the buns and use knife and fork, or I'll do what my late mother always did, eat the chicken with just one bun slice, or you can just grab a hold of the fillet barehanded and eat away! Me, too, I WANT the chicken!
168 posted on 07/29/2012 2:15:57 PM PDT by itssme
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To: itssme

Someone will correct me if I’m wrong but I’ll try. A Sub S Corporation provides the protections against law suits, as a regular C Corporation. However, the income from a Sub S passes through to the owner as regular income and taxed as personal income. If the person is a C Corporation, he or she would have to pay both corporate taxes and personal taxes.


169 posted on 07/29/2012 2:38:03 PM PDT by Morgan in Denver (Democrats: The law of unintended consequences in action.)
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To: itssme

Crap, sorry. My post was for the person before your post.


170 posted on 07/29/2012 2:39:42 PM PDT by Morgan in Denver (Democrats: The law of unintended consequences in action.)
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To: maryz

Someone will correct me if I’m wrong but I’ll try. A Sub S Corporation provides the protections against law suits, as a regular C Corporation. However, the income from a Sub S passes through to the owner as regular income and taxed as personal income. If the person is a C Corporation, he or she would have to pay both corporate taxes and personal taxes.


171 posted on 07/29/2012 2:40:03 PM PDT by Morgan in Denver (Democrats: The law of unintended consequences in action.)
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To: Unrepentant VN Vet

Yes Vet, you nailed it with your post. Thanks for the “misery loves company” explanation. You could add OSHA to the list as well. Ever have to deal with these people?


172 posted on 07/29/2012 2:48:06 PM PDT by nuancey
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To: Morgan in Denver

I thought that and went to a lawyer to create an LLC. The lawyer I went to is a member of my church, a great guy and conservative. However, he informed me that no incorporation would would protect me from a lawsuit if I personally screwed something up. An LLC, S or C corp might protect me if an employee of mine screwed something up and I had done due dilligence to prevent it.

Other than that, some other predatory lawyer can always sue you and hope for the best. Another reason it’s hard to start and run a business!

I have no employees, so I did not incorporate. He didn’t charge me.


173 posted on 07/29/2012 3:00:47 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Morgan in Denver

Yes, that’s how I understand it — but aren’t there expenses that would normally be paid by a C corporation that are instead paid by the S corporation’s owner(s) out of his (their) declared income, so that the owner’s (I’m getting sick of providing the alternate form!) income declared on his tax return is bigger than his actual income (as most people understand it) is? I know I’m phrasing this awkwardly, but, as I said, I read something about it years ago, and don’t really remember specifics.


174 posted on 07/29/2012 3:09:54 PM PDT by maryz
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To: Alas Babylon!; bray
My source inside the White House has verified they are in complete meltdown mode as America was given a clear view inside the WH Occupier’s head.

Hopefully your source is not Ulsterman, a.k.a Anthony G. Martin, whose name and work has been banned from FR. Most agree with a poster who said his work was fiction and product of "a yarn spinner, a purveyor of tall tails and cryptic horse manure. People who should know better are reeled in."

Please do not post from "Ulsterman"

175 posted on 07/29/2012 3:22:33 PM PDT by CedarDave
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To: Alas Babylon!; bray

Having expressed my opinion on the possibility that your White House source is bogus, what you say about the American people coming to realize the real nature of the Poser in the White House rings true. Unfortunately two things do much to pour cold water on that conclusion.

First is that Obama is making promises and taking action to solidify many voters who have come to rely on the government largesse to provide for them rather than their own skills, ability and ambition in making a meaningful contribution to their life, their family and society in general. That includes many minority Blacks and Hispanics to whom the concept of a family provider has been replaced by a government one in the form of everything from food stamps, to health care, to child care, to welfare, to unemployment checks. These are the ones Obama’s campaign minions are going to ensure get to the polls with promises of continued monthly US Treasury deposits to their bank accounts.

Second is Romney himself. The favorability/unfavorability ratio is skewed highly in Obama’s favor, mainly due to the daily/evening gushing love affair by the mainstream media. By contrast, Romney is portrayed almost as a 50’s boss on the “Mad Men” series — always work oriented, profit motivated, a strong taskmaster uninterested or unaware of others around him, or the effect his decisions have on employee jobs and their families. Fair or unfair, that is the picture we will have of Romney throughout the campaign season both from the Obama campaign and the compliant media.


176 posted on 07/29/2012 4:05:53 PM PDT by CedarDave
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To: chiller

I totally agree with you about Romney being comfortable in his next role as potus. (And with the rest of your comments, also.)

Let us compare him with his opponent - who has only had one Cabinet Meeting in all of 2012.


177 posted on 07/29/2012 4:13:05 PM PDT by maica
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To: Alas Babylon!; maryz

That reminds me, I should look at the differences between a LLC and a S Corp. Many lawyers I know are LLC’s (limited liability corporations)and not Sub S Corps. I’m sure there’s a reason for that but I’m not an accountant so it’s not something I know for sure.


178 posted on 07/29/2012 4:14:26 PM PDT by Morgan in Denver (Democrats: The law of unintended consequences in action.)
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To: CedarDave

Living in Alabama, I have a lot of contact and friendship with blacks. I do not have any practical exprerience with people on welfare/government assistance however.

I will say this: Almost all the blacks I do know are fierce supporters of Obama, whether his policies help them (they don’t) or hurt them (they do). None of that matters. It’s all about race.

It’s sad to say, but it’s the truth. I don’t think many care who is or isn’t giving them a handout. Still, I subtly focus on that aspect when I (rarely) debate them about Obama. Some get mad if I bring up the fact that they support him because he’s black, not based on his harmful policies, which they acknowledge is harmful!

Some think about it just a little. That’s who I’m working on.

Now, there is a subset of white liberals who actually are similar in their support for Obama, that is, they support him because he’s black. I don’t know what to say to them.

Bottom line is Republicans will not get many blacks this election, or in many elections to come. I liked that Romney went to the NAACP to tell them truth, not pander, but neither will garner their votes.

I think we should benignly write them off. By that I mean we do no harm to them, except to grow the economy, promote liberty, law and order, and a colorblind justice system. They may not support us, but it will do them much good.


179 posted on 07/29/2012 4:58:24 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Chgogal

Wow what a blockbuster Chgogal!In the report one city had 97.1% of new jobs from small businesses! This really says it all.THanks.


180 posted on 07/29/2012 4:59:20 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: TomGuy

As Chris Wallace ages, he becomes as contemptible as his father.

(Paraphrasing):

Wallace: Are you thinking about quitting?
Scalia: No, my wife would probably not like my hanging around the house.
Wallace: I can understand that.

I can’t imagine making such a snarky remark in public to a SCOTUS Justice.

He, Wallace, may have been referring to himself and his being at home all the time, and of course, that’s how he’d spin it if called out on it. From observing him over time, I don’t think he was. However, if it was the case, then I would fully understand and give my deepest sympathy to his wife, assuming that he’s married.

Then Wallace goes off on Romney about his remarks about the Olympics.

What if Romney said something on the order of: “Everything’s great, security is good, etc.,” and then there was some terrorist event like Munich.

None of the panel, especially the moron Republican strategist, pointed out that in that scenario, Wallace and his cohorts would pillory Romney endlessly for saying security was good.

Of all the London interviews, the thing that struck me was Romney talking on about his wife’s horse being in the Olympics. Now that was fodder for showing how out of touch Romney is. I’m pretty familiar with the horsey set, and I can tell you, they’re not so much.


181 posted on 07/29/2012 5:01:15 PM PDT by VMI70
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To: Morgan in Denver

Yeah it does get strong. Seattles Best is a better brand for me actually.
Yeah I’m a Batman, Superman, Ironman, Spider man freak. Just can’t get enough of the super heroes...


182 posted on 07/29/2012 5:01:46 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: Morgan in Denver

Almost everyone I knew told me that if I did independent contracting I should form a LLC. Mike, my lawyer, told me he could make a lot of money just pushing the LLC line, but he’d be ripping me off.

He said most people are just wrong assuming that independent contractors need to form an LLC when one has no employees.

Think about it this way, your income is still your income. You can write off a heck of a lot of expenses (home office, phone lines, auto travel, etc), but you can’t hide your income from the gov.

You’d be better off getting a really good accountant.


183 posted on 07/29/2012 5:04:52 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: itssme; All

I don’t know about the rest of Freepers here but I’m gonna be a good Chick-Fil-A fan from now on for quite a while.Best way to stop the shenanigans of the regime.Support capitalism deny communism.


184 posted on 07/29/2012 5:04:52 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: maryz

I wish I could explain it. Only one of the many reason I have a huge CPA bill every month.


185 posted on 07/29/2012 5:06:16 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: CedarDave

Hopefully, the country will still support a Don Draper rather than Omar Lenin even in these days of crisis.


186 posted on 07/29/2012 5:10:28 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: rodguy911
Amen!


187 posted on 07/29/2012 5:11:11 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!

Hahahaha,catch later buddy!! I’m gonna rest up for Breaking Bad,its past my bed time but I know Rush will be chatting about it tomorrow. I don’t wanna miss the action.


188 posted on 07/29/2012 5:14:21 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: nuancey

OSHA?

If it’s gummint (on any **** level), I’ve had ‘em..
to
just
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as
much
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tolerate

OSHA’s biggest problem is that they consider themselves Expert in engineering and manufacturing practices, but the very best of ‘em I’ve seen couldn’t design a way to extinguish the flames when they set their foot on fire.

They do REAL good at driving businesses offshore, though.


189 posted on 07/30/2012 4:38:01 AM PDT by Unrepentant VN Vet ((176 and a wakeup) Truth, I know, always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition.)
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To: itssme

We plan on eating at the Orland Park Chick A Filet on Wednesday.


190 posted on 07/30/2012 12:38:47 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo
I'm loving how people are coming together and standing up against rahm emanuel’s idea of a “Chicago moral code.”

My motto is speak up, speak out and resist any attempt by the left to deny you your rights, to control you. Like the freedom fighters of World War II, of which my relative in Lithuania was one, it will be up to We the People to follow the example of freedom fighters past and present, and do what we can to sidetrack the left. Enjoy your meal at Chick-fil-A!

191 posted on 07/30/2012 1:14:55 PM PDT by itssme
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To: Diogenesis
Good job, reporting, BTW. You earned it! Sorry I misplaced this!

See you on Sunday!

192 posted on 08/03/2012 5:13:48 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!; rodguy911

Actually, I do have a very good accountant who I’ve used for thirty years to keep me out of jail. I want deductions and he won’t let me take the ones I think I should have. Still, he’s saved me a ton of money over the years.

The attorney I referred to explained it to me as his exposure as an attorney to lawsuits, which is why most attorneys create a LLC. Also, think about it, for a lawyer to do it is at no cost since one has to do it anyway.

As an aside, we had an area of I-70 that consistently provided revenue from tickets to people who changed lanes improperly. That worked until they ticketed an attorney who took the state to court, and beat them because it was not properly marked. Thousands of motorists just paid the fines but one attorney changed the practice so it no longer was something cops could use to fine drivers.

Dumb laws? It’s illegal to carry a firearm in Denver. Period. If you’re caught you forfeit the firearm and get a fine. YET, we have numerous sporting good stores in Denver that routinely sell firearms. So, how do people take them home? This is why so many people consider many laws to be jokes.

Sorry, slow Saturday....


193 posted on 08/04/2012 12:39:54 PM PDT by Morgan in Denver (Democrats: The law of unintended consequences in action.)
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To: rodguy911

I’m glad you weren’t in Denver for that movie opening. I guess you would have been in the thick of it.


194 posted on 08/04/2012 12:40:40 PM PDT by Morgan in Denver (Democrats: The law of unintended consequences in action.)
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