Dick Cheney: Picking Sarah Palin for VP Was 'A Mistake'

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[Carry_Okie]

You didn’t show otherwise. You’re quoting from a source from her first year in office, I showed you numbers over all her budgets—of which she got three years through.

Now you're just lying. The post showed four years of budgets. You requested that the source links work. By citing one and not digging them all up, I showed you that the numbers were legit. I'm not going to reconstruct the source data for every year for you. It's a waste of my time. Here's why:

I take it you don’t live in a purple or blue state, where sometimes you’ve got to go with the most electable—or the Dems entirely get their way.

Well all you had to do to check was to click my FReeper tag and you would know that I am from a blue State, California. But you see, you are too lazy to do that. So why should I care to research old links for a person who cares more about reinforcing his or her opinion than truth?

And yeah, I wish she’d do more wonk-speak in her appearances, but it is the general principles that she connects with people on—

Neither Dick Cheyey nor I believe that 'connecting with people' or winning elections renders one qualified to be President.

You ought to go and double check your work on her gubernatorial record—and you’ll see that she did more cutting than any of our national-class pols has ever done.

Spending went up every year. That's what I said. Moreover, she put her town deep into debt... to build a health club. Think about it. That isn't "infrastructure"; it's socialism. Sure it's popular as long as 'somebody else' is paying for it. It is not conservative administration.

If you didn’t have some sort of personally-motivated antipathy toward her, you’d see she has a better record of cost-cutting and executive governing than anyone else we have in the national arena.

Equine feces. BTW, I'm done with you. You're a waste of time.

[pinochet]

>>>That’s right ole DC—McLame should have picked your daughter instead. Gay/Lesbo family values would have been the winning ticket on the VP slot in 08. Ask Romney to pick the daughter for VP.

Cheney is a selfish Rockerfeller Republican, who has managed to fool conservatives that he is one of them. Cheney was part of the failed Ford Administration, which lost to Jimmy Carter. Cheney is not, and has never been, a true conservative.

[Chgogal]

I most certainly WOULD NOT giggle if Cheney died. Having said that, there is absolutely no damned excuse for him to attack Palin on executive experience when it is Obama who is running for office.

Shame on Cheney and shame on you for not criticizing him for doing so.
There was no need to stab our own in the back. Shame, shame shame.

[RichInOC]

By the way, I’d like to note that I wish Vice President Cheney a long and happy life. That said, this is not a fight he was well-advised to pick and he’s old enough and politically experienced enough to know better.

[mkjessup]

Shame on Cheney and shame on you for not criticizing him for doing so.

Sorry, I have refused to be assimilated into the Sarah Palin Borg Collective and give up all of my individuality.

Dick Cheney expressed his opinion. He is entitled to that opinion. You may not agree with that opinion, however his views in this matter (or any matter) do not negate the many fine things he has done in his life, both personal and political. The foul animus I have witnessed in this thread from allegedly intelligent conservatives, many of them sneering, slurring and smearing the best Vice President since Spiro Agnew makes me ill.

[bert]

Amen.......

There is no better conservative than Dick Cheney. He is the standard.

[mkjessup]

Thanks Bert.

Prepare for incoming SarahDrones(c), you can depend on that like the sunrise.

[Chgogal]

Cheney is entitled to his opinion as a private citizen. As a political elite you would think he has some political acumen. But no!!!

Cheney, in all his wisdom, makes Palin the center stage instead of Obama. And you support this political suicide? Shame, shame, shame!

As for intelligent conservatives.....hello! Obama is the enemy NOT Palin. I think we conservatives know this. Apparently, Cheney and his fellow GOP-e(stablishment) do not. As for foul animus, why does the GOP-e(stablishment) attack Palin instead of Obama on the national stage 100 days before the election? What the hell were they (and you) thinking? How is this a positive for us? Their animus and ill timed attacks on someone who IS NOT RUNNING make me ill as well. I guess that is why the GOP-e is called the Stupid Party.

[Chgogal]

Nonsense!!!

What Cheney did this weekend was absolutely inexcusable. Period.

One hundred (100) days before the national election against Obama, Cheney attacks Palin?

Hello!!!

That political suicide on the national stage is incomprehensible. It is unbelievable. What foolishness! And you support this idiotic move by Cheney at this time? The attacks by the GOP-e(stablishment) should be against Obama NOT Palin. What the hell is wrong with you and What's his name?

UNBELIEVABLE!

[mkjessup]

Lookee here gal, Dick Cheney did NOT make Sarah Palin 'center stage', he made an observation based on his own views and perspective, and it was all of the Pavlovian mutts hearing the dinner bell, her supporters, sycophants and zombies all started drooling, barking on cue and if ANY group of people made this center stage, THEY did with their over the top wails and shrieks of outrage.

AND, did you somehow miss Cheney's OTHER recent comments in which he clearly stated that 0bama was WORSE than even Jimmy Carter?

Probably not, you and the rest of the SPBC (Sarah Palin Borg Collective) have been too busy waxing apoplectic over the less than worshipful words uttered regarding the object of your adoration.

Say Bert? Did I call the shot or what? lol)

[Chgogal]

Lookee here, Dickie made an observation that HURT our side 100 days before the election. Instead of beating up Obama he beat up Palin. Why the hell didn't he make an observation about Obama. God knows Obama is target rich.

Instead he wasted a precious sound bite beating up our side. Now granted you may not like Palin. Big deal. That DOES NOT EXCUSE POOR STRATEGY on Cheney's part. That sound bite played locally over the ALL country ALL freaking day.

It is obvious that you are a bit dense when it comes to Palin. SHE IS NOT RUNNING. SHE IS NOT IN CONTENTION FOR VP. WHY WASTE TIME TALKING ABOUT HER?

Exactly what don't you get? Cheney screwed the pooch big time here. It was a poorly timed attack against a Republican whom YOU DESPISE. I get that. But that DOES NOT excuse Cheney's very poor strategic choice of words 100 days before the election on national cable/TV replayed over and over again.

As for the so called wails and shrieks made by Palinbots, to the best of my knowledge, none of them got air time, UNLIKE Cheney's nasty attack on Palin.

Cheney's comment stating that Obama is worse than Carter DID NOT make the local news cycles. So, save your contempt for the Palin supporters. CHENEY'S PALIN ATTACK DID MAKE THE LOCAL NEWS CYCLES ALL DAY. DO YOU GET THAT NOW?????

Finally, whether I adore Palin or not IS NOT the point. The POINT that we are discussing is Cheney's timing of an attack on a conservative (whom you and Bill Mahre despise) 100 days before the election.

Do you get it now, or do you belong in Bill Mahre’s camp?

[exit82]

I agree wholeheartedly.

The man has been around the block, and knows what becomes a soundbite. There was no need to even answer a question about Palin.

As you said,he should have made the whole interview about Obama and his failures.

Palin had more executive experience than Obama,Biden and McCain combined. She was more ready to be President on Day One than any of these Senators.

She can never be forgiven for exposing the corrupt Republicans in Alaska.

At least Cheney’s daughter had the guts to say the right thing.

Her dad knows better, so I have to assume a message was being sent.

[greene66]

Well put! That’s what is so exasperating about this. Cheney doesn’t have to say anything, but here he goes and gives the jackals in the media a nice little kissy-kissy valentine to go on yet another day-long, anti-Palin/anti-conservative/anti-Tea Party orgy. It’s ammo to the enemy, to further their propagandistic agenda.

And, it happens time and time again... the GOP-establishment guys cozying up to the media scum to deep-six genuine conservatives. Palin has been on the receiving end of this constantly, to the jollies of the libs. From Barbara Bush telling her to stay the hell up in Alaska, to Krauthamer telling her to “leave the room” on the Obamacare issue (while he then totally repeats the message she expressed) to even Chris Christie rolling his eyes and making a stupid face when asked about Palin.

Palin has gone out of her way to speak well of GOP folks, abiding by Reagan’s 11th more than any other Republican out there, yet she’s constantly on the receiving end of these tawdry backstabs. It burns me up, and has ripped to shreds the respect I once held for the Party, which seems more populated by cowardly weasels than I ever imagined.

[Chgogal]

Yeah, and that message couldn't be sent privately? It had to be made nationally for all to see. WTF? Are the complete idiots? Have they no sense? Is Palin that powerful that they have to stab their own in the back 100 days before the election? Again, WTF?

The GOP-e(stablishment) really screwed the pooch this weekend. I have no confidence in them at all. (As if I ever had.)

GRRRRRR........

[Chgogal]

Lucky me. I just got a survey from the RNC along with a request for donations.

My response: “Cheney's attack on Palin cost you. STFU Cheney.”

I would have been more polite had there been more space. Considering the timing of Cheney's voluntary attack on Palin, I can only assume that the GOP-e(stablishment) considers Palin a bigger enemy than Obama. Well, I disagree with that and therefore, I shant give them a dime.

[mkjessup]

Oh my oh my, let's begin wading through your Chicago-style equine feces here:

Lookee here, Dickie made an observation that HURT our side 100 days before the election. Instead of beating up Obama he beat up Palin. Why the hell didn't he make an observation about Obama. God knows Obama is target rich.

Oh but of course, how could we forget that Dick Cheney is the Chuck Norris of politics. That's why he scares you so much. Get a clue, chicky-boo, he's only one man although a very significant man. He hasn't hurt conservatives, your teeth gnashing not withstanding.

Instead he wasted a precious sound bite beating up our side. Now granted you may not like Palin. Big deal. That DOES NOT EXCUSE POOR STRATEGY on Cheney's part. That sound bite played locally over the ALL country ALL freaking day.

Don't spew idiotic lies, nowhere have I said that I disliked Sarah Palin in fact I like her very much, I was among the first to call for a brokered convention in hopes of her becoming the nominee instead of Mitt-Witt. As for Dick Cheney's sound bite, you're displaying your own ignorance with your statement because if you knew anything about news cycles, you would know that after one "freaking day", a news item all but goes straight down the memory hole in the mind of the public.

It is obvious that you are a bit dense when it comes to Palin. SHE IS NOT RUNNING. SHE IS NOT IN CONTENTION FOR VP. WHY WASTE TIME TALKING ABOUT HER?

Sounds like YOU are the one with the dislike for Sarah Palin, the lady is a significant force in politics, she remains a highly paid political commentator on Fox News, and it matters not one whit if Dick Cheney makes a comment about her or not, there are MILLIONS of her supporters who refuse to talk about anyone else.

Exactly what don't you get? Cheney screwed the pooch big time here. It was a poorly timed attack against a Republican whom YOU DESPISE. I get that. But that DOES NOT excuse Cheney's very poor strategic choice of words 100 days before the election on national cable/TV replayed over and over again.

Don't be a dumb cluck. You're behaving just like the worst of Sarah's zombies, screaming that I "DESPISE" Sarah Palin all because I refuse to trash Dick Cheney who YOU clearly despise. Hey look: classic liberal projection on your part, assigning your emotions to others due to your own political myopia.

As for the so called wails and shrieks made by Palinbots, to the best of my knowledge, none of them got air time, UNLIKE Cheney's nasty attack on Palin.

"best of your knowledge", LOL - now that's a howler, you spend your days and nights monitoring the airwaves to see who got air time, and who didn't?

I'm sure. Be it air time or bandwidth time, Sarah's defenders have been out there beating the drums.

Cheney's comment stating that Obama is worse than Carter DID NOT make the local news cycles. So, save your contempt for the Palin supporters. CHENEY'S PALIN ATTACK DID MAKE THE LOCAL NEWS CYCLES ALL DAY. DO YOU GET THAT NOW?????

Screaming in cap letters does not validate your assertions, and your hand wringing over one "DAY" is laughable.

Finally, whether I adore Palin or not IS NOT the point. The POINT that we are discussing is Cheney's timing of an attack on a conservative (whom you and Bill Mahre despise) 100 days before the election.

Once again, I do not despise Sarah Palin, so shut your lying piehole about that. As for your adoration of Sarah Palin, you must adore her, otherwise you wouldn't be screaming murder most foul. Sarah herself would tell you to calm down and take a chill pill.

Do you get it now, or do you belong in Bill Mahre’s camp?

Grow up little girl. Bill Maher has nothing to do with this and is irrelevant to the discussion, ya got that Rosie O'Donnell?


(Hey Bert? More incoming bird droppings from one of 0bama's fellow Chicagoans, lol)

[Rocky]

The problem wasn’t with the bottom of the ticket. The problem was with the top of the ticket.

McCain could have had Reagan as V.P. candidate and he still would have lost. The problem was McCain.

[Jane Long]

Bravo!! Well stated. Where's the clapping man at the theatre pic?!

Cheney lost a lot of ground AND respect with this. Shame on him.

[Chgogal]

Boy, you can't handle the truth.

1. Liz Cheney called out her father on his pathetic attack on Palin. I take it you disagree with her.

2. You began with the Lookee here. FYI, I used Dickie and in Trickie Dickie. You have a Bill Mahre kind of mind.

3. You indicated your dislike of Palin with the way you insult her followers. Calling Palin supporters as Palinbots is not what can be called endearing. But who knows, in your Bill Mahre world, that may be a term of endearment.

4. I like Cheney but he was wrong in attacking Palin 100 days before the election.

5. I don't scare easy.

6. Anytime a GOP-e(stablishment) bigwig, (i.e. Cheney) attacks one of his own, and it is repeated nationwide that GOP-e(stablishment) bigwig damages the effort to defeat Obama in November. Everyday of attacking Obama and reinforcing his failures as POTUS is important. Cheney wasted a day. (I know your too dim to understand)

7. How does stating the facts that Palin is not running and not in contention for the VP position an indication of my dislike for Palin? (You don't make sense.)

8. Your memory hole is beyond stupid. His sound bite should have been aimed at Obama. Instead it was aimed at Palin and then repeated over and over again in the news cycles. Cheney should have reinforced Obama failed policies, but no, he chose to attack our own. Sunday was a wasted sound bite day that should have been aimed at Obama. (Hey, you must be working for the Obama/Mahre team. That explains your idiocy, you dumb cluck.)

9. You bore me.

Now, since it is obvious that you are the Bill Mahre of Free Republic, I would appreciate no more discussion with you. It is obvious that you do not understand how MSM uses GOP-e(stablisment) attacks on our own against us. IOW, you are too much of a Dummycrat to continue our discussion.

You have been dismissed. Good-bye.

[mkjessup]

Boy, you can't handle the truth.

More projection from a liberal Chicago mind.

1. Liz Cheney called out her father on his pathetic attack on Palin. I take it you disagree with her.

Liz Cheney is entitled to her opinion, just as her father is. Your problem is that you can't handle an opinion which doesn't dovetail into your own preconceived notions.

2. You began with the Lookee here. FYI, I used Dickie and in Trickie Dickie. You have a Bill Mahre kind of mind.

WTF are you talking about?

3. You indicated your dislike of Palin with the way you insult her followers. Calling Palin supporters as Palinbots is not what can be called endearing. But who knows, in your Bill Mahre world, that may be a term of endearment.

There you go again Rosie, can't see the forest for the trees. The fact is, the PalinBots, groupies, zombies, that I refer to and freely insult, are in fact an insult to Sarah Palin and an embarrassment to that fine lady. They are no different than the 0bama-groupies of '08 with their 'Hope & Change' mantra, and the problem is that just like those 0bamunists, the Palinistas I speak of are focused 99 percent on the *personality* of the one they adore, and are unable, or refuse to focus on the ISSUES and the POSITIONS espoused by the one they worship. The difference is quite simple, even for a simple minded fool like you, conservatives examine policies and positions of whatever candidate or public official is being discussed. LIBERALS (whether they recognize themselves as being liberal or not) focus on personalities, they allow themselves to be wow'd and bowled over by whatever words their idol of the moment happens to utter, or whatever actions they may take. Unfortunately for you, you are unable to objectively see the difference which is why you are compelled to continue flailing madly in impotent fury, displaying your own bitterness and inability to cope with reality.

4. I like Cheney but he was wrong in attacking Palin 100 days before the election.

Yeah, we can all tell that you like Dick Cheney, slurring his name with a connection to "Trickie Dickie" Nixon. You are as glaringly transparent as a pane of freshly Windex'd glass. So stop lying about "liking" Dick Cheney, your words have already established otherwise.

5. I don't scare easy.

No mirrors in your house eh? LOL

6. Anytime a GOP-e(stablishment) bigwig, (i.e. Cheney) attacks one of his own, and it is repeated nationwide that GOP-e(stablishment) bigwig damages the effort to defeat Obama in November. Everyday of attacking Obama and reinforcing his failures as POTUS is important. Cheney wasted a day. (I know your too dim to understand)

In the grand scheme of things, Dick Cheney's remarks are not even going to adjust the picture of the electoral contest, only in the minds of those who have deified Sarah Palin as the first Conservative Pope. Like Dick Cheney, she too is just human and would tell you to take a deep breath and settle your ass down.

7. How does stating the facts that Palin is not running and not in contention for the VP position an indication of my dislike for Palin? (You don't make sense.)

What you said was that people should not talk about her, or refer to her, or discuss her (at least not in glowing and adoring terms), which could easily be interpreted to mean that you don't have a great like for Sarah Palin, to urge that others (like Dick Cheney) not talk about her. It makes all the sense in the world, for someone who is able to think in greater than one-dimensional terms.

8. Your memory hole is beyond stupid. His sound bite should have been aimed at Obama. Instead it was aimed at Palin and then repeated over and over again in the news cycles. Cheney should have reinforced Obama failed policies, but no, he chose to attack our own. Sunday was a wasted sound bite day that should have been aimed at Obama. (Hey, you must be working for the Obama/Mahre team. That explains your idiocy, you dumb cluck.)

Once again, you spew lies based on nothing but your emotionally unstable rage. As for someone working for 0bama, it is more likely that you as a fellow Chicagoan are carrying his water by attacking Dick Cheney who by the way stated that 0bama was worse than Jimmy Carter but because he made a mild criticism/observation regarding Sarah Palin, nothing else matters. You need to give your head a shake.

9. You bore me.

I can't be too boring, you have repeatedly returned to your inner well of estrogenic rage to post these amusing responses to my comments.

Now, since it is obvious that you are the Bill Mahre of Free Republic,

More Chicago-style lies, from an unbalanced mind.

I would appreciate no more discussion with you.

Get a clue Missy, if you post something and I feel like commenting, I'm going to comment. It is way above your paygrade to start telling anyone that you don't want any more discussion with them. You post, others respond. Don't like it? Too damn bad.

It is obvious that you do not understand how MSM uses GOP-e(stablisment) attacks on our own against us. IOW, you are too much of a Dummycrat to continue our discussion.

You blithering idiot, I retired as a radio news director for one of the most conservative FM stations in North Florida, I have forgotten more about how the media works than you could ever hope to know.

You have been dismissed. Good-bye.

Don't bet on that. We're going to be enjoying lots of future conversations, I can tell that right now. These past exchanges are nothing more than the appetizers.

Wait until we get to the main course.


[*ping* to my good FRiend DoughtyOne, D1? I figured you could use a few chuckles, lol]