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Does Cheney and the Establishment Really Seek to Fire Obama?
Conservatives4Palin ^ | Sunday July 29, 2012 | Steve Fischer

Posted on 07/29/2012 3:11:39 PM PDT by Bigtigermike

The news of Cheney’s interview airing on ABC tomorrow morning (Monday) on GMA is making its Sunday-rounds.  The MSM couldn’t be happier.

While the entire interview has yet to be released, it appears Mr. Cheney has decided to do his part for his establishment-buddies by attacking his own party’s last VP nominee in lieu of going after the nation’s biggest elected mistake of all time – Barack Obama. In response, good conservatives all across the web are responding.

Mark Levin stated this morning: (emphasis)

“John McCain ran a terrible campaign; the Bush-Cheney administration had become very unpopular with the American people, including many Republicans; and the Bush-Cheney administration was every bit as activist when it came to expanding domestic spending and government activism as the Nixon administration.  The continuing attacks on leaders of grassroots conservatives by the Republican establishment, especially former Bush administration officials, need to end now. They got their nominee and they need to focus on Obama. “

Tony Lee over at Breitbart said:

“Cheney, who led the vice presidential search that picked Nelson Rockefeller for Gerald Ford’s VP, is probably more comfortable with a vice presidential candidate who has similar establishment bona fides to Rockefeller, which Palin obviously lacks.”

Cheney said about Palin:

"I don’t think she passed that test … of being ready to take over. And I think that was a mistake.”

He might have a point.

Apparently, Palin’s not “ready” to sit in an administration for eight years which added 5 trillion dollars to our unpaid debt basically demoralizing the spirit of conservatism leading to four years of Barack Obama. Cheney was “ready” for that, wasn’t he?

Palin’s not “ready” to engage in cronyism which dictates who she’d appoint to lifetime positions on the Supreme Court or to head federal emergency agencies like FEMA.  Bush & Cheney were “ready” for that, weren’t they?

Palin is “ready” to balance a budget – since she did it in Alaska.

Palin is “ready” to increase benefits for our esteemed elders while cutting out wasteful spending existing all across our federal government – since she did similar things in Alaska.

Palin is “ready” to call out entrenched special interests like she did when she served up a little justice to the Republican Party’s good old boys and their dealings with big oil.  She did that in Alaska, too. Palin’s “ready” to unabashedly call out Barack Obama.  This includes pointing out his past associations, his reckless squandering of billions of our dollars to pay back his Wall Street friends (just as Bush/Cheney once did), and his plans to whip Americans into Greece-like big-government submission.   This is in contrast to the establishment’s plans to hold back.

Palin’s “ready” to endorse countless candidates for the Congress.  She’s been successful at using her enormous grassroots influence to pull a great deal of them across the finish line.

Palin’s not ready to fall in line with the establishment.  Until any candidate (including our perceived “front-runner”) demonstrates a full willingness to truly unify with the party’s grassroots, don’t count on her to make deals behind closed doors or hold high-priced fundraisers at her home.

Considering everything Bush & Company were “ready” for, it’s no wonder why Barack Obama was ever put in the position of becoming President of our great Republic.  Now of course, he must be fired.

But after observing the behavior of Cheney, Sununu, and other Romney surrogates, it might serve the interest of the American people to ask whether or not Romney is truly “ready” to do that considering the company he chooses to keep.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bho2012; cheney; dickcheney; palin; romney; sarahpalin
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1 posted on 07/29/2012 3:11:50 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: Bigtigermike

...and these jerks want me to vote for Romney. Yah, right! Doesn’t Cheney know that you don’t insult the conservatives until AFTER the election?


2 posted on 07/29/2012 3:16:14 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Bigtigermike

Dick must have had some godless liberal’s heart implanted into his chest as he spoke out against Sarah Palin and endorsed Sodomite Marriage.


3 posted on 07/29/2012 3:16:35 PM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: Bigtigermike

I like Cheney, I like Palin but obviously Cheney had 100 times her experience and he thinks that’s important.


4 posted on 07/29/2012 3:17:38 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Bigtigermike

With all of the GOOBers, who are supposed to be on “our side”, constantly ripping and blasting Republicans in the “media”, I really don’t see why this country even needs DemocRATS.


5 posted on 07/29/2012 3:18:27 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The NRA did not create James "The Joker" Holmes. Harvey Weinstein's Hollywood did.)
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To: Bigtigermike

I used to like Cheney, but after his daughter “married” her girlfriend with his blessing, I lost all respect for him.


6 posted on 07/29/2012 3:19:36 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: gorush

I really have no tolerance for anti Dick Cheney comments. Further, his comment on Sarah Palin has not a damn thing to do with Romney. I’m sure Cheney thinks he’s better than all of them.


7 posted on 07/29/2012 3:19:52 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Bigtigermike

I’ve said all along the GOP doesn’t intend to win the white house. America is a mess and fixing it will require heavy lifting that will bring unrest and they don’t want anything to do with that.

Every candidate other than Romney would have been a far better action candidate but the GOP wanted a soft non threatening globalist who won’t rock the boat.


8 posted on 07/29/2012 3:21:27 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Love how those of you who criticize Cheney don’t realize YOU are turning on a conservative. He expressed his opinion and good for him. Who cares.


9 posted on 07/29/2012 3:22:02 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Bigtigermike

Never could have remotely imagined it a few short years ago, but I’m now 100% convinced that the GOP establishment would VASTLY prefer to live under an Obama presidency as opposed to a Republican one headed by Palin and/or the tea party. I have absolutely ZERO trust in the GOP leadership nowadays, regardless of issue.


10 posted on 07/29/2012 3:23:03 PM PDT by greene66
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To: Williams

Where is Cheney’s executive experience? When did he ever balance any budget saved for maybe his own family checking account while W. Bush spent the nations money crazy like a drunken sailor. Cheneys experience is sitting by allowing cronyism and government growth go unabated all of his time in D.C.


11 posted on 07/29/2012 3:23:04 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: Bigtigermike

I propose that dementia be known as Dick’s Disease.


12 posted on 07/29/2012 3:23:30 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: Bigtigermike
Gary Johnson.

Give 'em what they want and stick your finger in their eye in the process.

13 posted on 07/29/2012 3:24:43 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: cripplecreek

Cheney expressing the opinion that a more experienced vp candidate is better cannot remotely equal his not wanting to win the White House. It is the exact opposite, it is a solid approach to winning the White House.


14 posted on 07/29/2012 3:25:00 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: ilovesarah2012

I like Cheney - smart fellow. I like the daughter who appears on Fox News. The other daughter, none of my business.

Sarah’s polarizing for some reason. I don’t doubt that the cause is “fear”, the libs fear her. Problem is that they’re loud, obnoxious, rude and will lie through 6 sets of teeth and shout if from every rooftop. They’re brainwashed and they brainwash the weak around them.


15 posted on 07/29/2012 3:25:11 PM PDT by imemyself
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To: Williams
I really have no tolerance for anti Dick Cheney comments.

Must really suck to be utterly impotent to do anything about them huh? LOL
16 posted on 07/29/2012 3:25:30 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Bigtigermike
The gop hates us... they are embarrassed by us... they despise us... and they attack us and ridicule us and they send out cheney to attack one of our leaders. They tell us, “**** you and your Mother... so vote the way that we tell you to and STFU... you bunch of unwashed heathens”.

LLS

17 posted on 07/29/2012 3:25:30 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: Bigtigermike

Palin supports Condi Rice for VP and she loves McCain. Sarah is not one of us. Get over it.


18 posted on 07/29/2012 3:26:29 PM PDT by donna ("...gay couples raising kids. That's the American way..." -Mitt Romney)
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To: Bigtigermike
Does Cheney and the Establishment Really Seek to Fire Obama?

I don't know, "Does" they really?

How dare Cheney have an opinion. Is that even allowed?

19 posted on 07/29/2012 3:26:38 PM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo, being wily, pities the fool.)
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To: Bigtigermike

Cheney must have got a liberal rino heart.


20 posted on 07/29/2012 3:27:17 PM PDT by boomop1 (term limits will only save this country.)
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To: Williams
I care and he turned on us... not the other way around. You and cheney are welcome to your opinions... you are not insulated from them.

LLS

21 posted on 07/29/2012 3:27:25 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: ilovesarah2012

I like Cheney - smart fellow. I like the daughter who appears on Fox News. The other daughter, none of my business.

Sarah’s polarizing for some reason. I don’t doubt that the cause is “fear”, the libs fear her. Problem is that they’re loud, obnoxious, rude and will lie through 6 sets of teeth and shout if from every rooftop. They’re brainwashed and they brainwash the weak around them.


22 posted on 07/29/2012 3:27:25 PM PDT by imemyself
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To: ilovesarah2012

I like Cheney - smart fellow. I like the daughter who appears on Fox News. The other daughter, none of my business.

Sarah’s polarizing for some reason. I don’t doubt that the cause is “fear”, the libs fear her. Problem is that they’re loud, obnoxious, rude and will lie through 6 sets of teeth and shout if from every rooftop. They’re brainwashed and they brainwash the weak around them.


23 posted on 07/29/2012 3:27:38 PM PDT by imemyself
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To: Bigtigermike

Oh, please. Yes, Cheney wants to fire Obamugabe.

The quotes I’ve read from Cheney aren’t an attack on Palin...he compliments Palin, but says a two-year tenure as a governor isn’t sufficient, in his opinion, to be the VEEP.

How is that out of line? It isn’t.

Yes, Palin had more executive experience than Biden or Obama or McCain...which says she was more experienced than any of them, but still not experienced enough in the opinion of Cheney.

One COULD take Cheney’s comments to be more complimentary of Palin and more critical of the other three candidates.

G.W. Bush had 5+ years of governorship of Texas.
Reagan had 8 years of a governorship of California.
Clinton had 8 years of a governorship of Arkansas.

The modern record is pretty clear: governors with a MORE THAN ONE TERM are best suited to the Presidency. (No, I don’t consider Clinton a great President, but he was a two term President like the others.)

Which of course gives one pause for Romney: he only has had ONE term as a governor. But I also believe Romney’s private sector experience makes him a much better choice than Obamugabe.

But I digress.

We conservatives do not do ourselves a favor when we “rush” candidates into the national spotlight. Let our governors succeed for a couple of terms: Walker, Christie, Haley, Scott, McDonnell, Jindal...then when they’ve built a solid record (like Reagan!!!) then they can take their place in the national debate.

I love Sarah, I’ve given to SarahPAC, and I enthusiastically voted for her in 2008. But she is doing God’s work where she is now, and I think it is absurd for us to attack people who, while they like her (didn’t Dick Cheney say that, too?), also believe she wasn’t as fully prepared as she could have been?

Also, anyone find it amazing that SUDDENLY the Obamugabe ass kissing media now is INTERESTED in what Dick Cheney thinks?? :)


24 posted on 07/29/2012 3:27:43 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: greene66

Ya know what partner? I think you are right.

The GOP wopuld rather exist under Obama than Sarah Palin.

Sarah cleaned out the crappy Republicans in Canada as well as the crappy Democrats, and the crappy Republicans in Washington don’t want that happening.


25 posted on 07/29/2012 3:28:35 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: LibLieSlayer

These are the same folks that use to go to the media and bemoan how they were embarrassed about Reagan....some things never change


26 posted on 07/29/2012 3:29:02 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: Bigtigermike

Hmm, vp, sec of defense, chief of staff, congress.

You’re right, no good experience there.

Some of us are so childish. So he wouldn’t go the Sara Palin route, boo hoo woe is me. It means Cheney is an evil RINO. /s

I would vote for Palin for president, but probably for Cheney first. Big deal get over it.


27 posted on 07/29/2012 3:29:55 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: LibLieSlayer
The gop hates us... they are embarrassed by us... they despise us... and they attack us and ridicule us and they send out cheney to attack one of our leaders.

Rush Goes On the Record with Fox News Channel's Greta Van Susteren (December 2011)

The Republican Party is trying to do something in this primary that is unprecedented. They're trying to split the conservative vote and win the primary with a moderate, with Romney. It's the other way around. You consolidate your base and then you move to the center in the general. The Republican establishment has decided they don't want any part of conservatism. And this is really not new. People are surprised to hear this, but the Republican Party formative event with conservatism is Goldwater's landslide defeat. That's what they think of when they think conservative. They don't think Reagan. They think Goldwater.

They believe what the inside-the-Beltway philosophy is about conservatives. They're racist, sexist, bigot, homophobe, Southern hayseed hicks. They're pro-lifers. They're embarrassing to have to go to the convention with them. And they're just embarrassed to have those kind of people in the party. They're dumb. They're not erudite. They're not educated in Ivy League schools. We'll take their votes on election day, but we really don't want to hang around with them. We don't want anybody in Washington thinking that we're really that close to them and aligned with them. So in the process -- you know, it's a very sophisticated electorate. The Republican primary voter can sense that the Republican Party really doesn't like them, really doesn't want them, thinks that they are the route to defeat. That's the problem in a nutshell. The Republican establishment thinks that a conservative nominee is the route to defeat because they think Goldwater landslides are going to happen because they believe what the popular misconception the left has created of conservatives -- they think everybody thinks that.

28 posted on 07/29/2012 3:31:03 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

No more impotent than you are to stop his criticism of Palin.


29 posted on 07/29/2012 3:31:32 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: imemyself

DICK CHENEY: JOHN MCCAIN MADE A MISTAKE CHOOSING SARAH PALIN FOR RUNNING MATE

http://patdollard.com/2012/07/dick-cheney-john-mccain-made-a-mistake-choosing-sarah-palin-for-vp-in-2008/

McCain would not have gotten half the votes he did if it hadn’t been for Sarah. Cheney smart? Define smart. Bill Clinton is smart but I would trust him as far as I could throw him.


30 posted on 07/29/2012 3:31:43 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Williams

Dick Cheney can go stuff it. Why say anything about Palin? What good does that do, Dick?

You really revealed yourself this time.


31 posted on 07/29/2012 3:32:56 PM PDT by Third Person ( A man's got to know his limitations.)
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To: humblegunner

Of course it is. He was allowed to pick himself as VP when working on that assignment for president-elect George W. Bush.


32 posted on 07/29/2012 3:33:25 PM PDT by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: Williams

I’m not questioning Cheney’s conservatism, I’m questioning his intellect.

Anyone who followed the 2008 election and is unable to comprehend that a) Palin was the only chance McCain had of winning, and b) McCain restrained Palin to the point of flushing that chance down the toilet (all by himself), simply fails the intellect test.

Maybe it’s his age; maybe we’ve just been snowed by him in the past. Whatever it is, what he’s saying now is very stupid. He’s either senile or he had a lot of help covering up his low IQ in the past.

For the sake of his good memory I’m willing to accept the senile defense.


33 posted on 07/29/2012 3:33:25 PM PDT by samtheman (Obama. Mugabe. Chavez. (Obamugavez))
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To: Williams

Cheney is not conservative except in some areas, he is part of the Romney/Rove wing of the GOP which has proven that they will give up seats and elections to stop Palin and the Reagan wing of the GOP.

Remember that Cheney is a social liberal who supported homosexualizing the military.


34 posted on 07/29/2012 3:33:50 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors,,, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: gorush

The establishment republicans are little more than Dem Lite infiltrating the GOP. They go after their own with as much zeal and the democrats do. We will not get America back until they have all been tossed from the Nation and state capitols.


35 posted on 07/29/2012 3:34:07 PM PDT by formosa (Formosa)
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To: Williams

Makes one wonder what he thought of the experience of Abraham Lincoln before he became President.


36 posted on 07/29/2012 3:35:08 PM PDT by mazda77 ("Defeating the Totalitarian Lie" By: Hilmar von Campe. Everybody should read it.)
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To: gorush

If you were honest with yourself-neither McCain nor Palin were qualified.McCain was running his mouth in 68 and beyond. Palin had no clue where certain foreign countries were just like a kid who failed geography. She was not very bright about history either.I hate to admit it but Romney got an MBA plus a JD from Harvard and he was not AA.


37 posted on 07/29/2012 3:35:15 PM PDT by Lumper20
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To: Williams
No more impotent than you are to stop his criticism of Palin.

I'm betting he's done talking about it for a while. LOL
38 posted on 07/29/2012 3:35:56 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Venturer

What, is Canada about the 56th of the 57 States or something?


39 posted on 07/29/2012 3:36:57 PM PDT by OKSooner (Never take a "known safety risk" shooting with you even if he is an ordained minister.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Agree. Cheney needs to shut up. We paid for enough heart surgeries that he owe’s us millions.


40 posted on 07/29/2012 3:37:24 PM PDT by Lumper20
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To: Venturer

:)


41 posted on 07/29/2012 3:37:47 PM PDT by OKSooner (Never take a "known safety risk" shooting with you even if he is an ordained minister.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

What you said. I love Sarah Palin but let’s face it she also did little to boost her experience creds by quitting the governorship after the election. More power to her but she kind of played into Cheney’s point.

Now I should vote for Gary Johnson and reelect Obama bc Dick Cheney said a more experienced vp is the way to go? Some of the stuff here is delusional.

Dick Cheney could stab a voodoo doll of Reagan on tv for all I care, I am voting for Romney and very much AGAINST Obama.


42 posted on 07/29/2012 3:37:55 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Williams

I didn’t say he didn’t have any experience but having “politics as usual” experience in D.C. instead of at least attempting turn the GOP away from being Democrat-lite isn’t worth squat with the fine mess that both parties have gotten us into. Sarah has always been battling those corrupt forces in the party, I can’t say that about Cheney


43 posted on 07/29/2012 3:38:30 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: Lumper20

Seems like we may have also received some pump head as a bonus.


44 posted on 07/29/2012 3:38:52 PM PDT by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: Bigtigermike

I usually agree with Cheney, but here I can’t help but believe another agenda is at work. After all, he can’t think that Idiot Joe Biden is ready to take over, can he?!?!


45 posted on 07/29/2012 3:41:28 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty ("Get that evil, foreign, muslim, usurping bastard out of MY White House!" FUBO GTFO!)
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To: Lumper20
Palin had no clue where certain foreign countries were just like a kid who failed geography.

Repeating a lie does nothing to make it the truth, only conventional wisdom. Besides, why is it so important she knows exactly where Shiraz is located anyway. What is more important is that the pilot knows.

46 posted on 07/29/2012 3:41:39 PM PDT by mazda77 ("Defeating the Totalitarian Lie" By: Hilmar von Campe. Everybody should read it.)
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To: LibLieSlayer

LLS: BS. Try Huffington Post.


47 posted on 07/29/2012 3:41:53 PM PDT by Lumper20
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To: Lumper20

I think I can count on one hand the number of Republicans I like and respect. I really wish we had a viable conservative third party.


48 posted on 07/29/2012 3:42:34 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: mazda77

Well it’s outlandish to say but Lincoln made lots of mistakes.

For the record, I would elect Palin president. She might be a breath of fresh air with her “inexperience”. I just don’t have to turn on Cheney, and especially on Romney, over Cheney’s comment.

Politically, I don’t think Cheney should have said it but he’s a cranky old so and so. I can live with that.


49 posted on 07/29/2012 3:42:55 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Lumper20
George Wilcken Romney (July 8, 1907 – July 26, 1995) was an American businessman and Republican Party politician. He was chairman and president of American Motors Corporation from 1954 to 1962, the 43rd Governor of Michigan from 1963 to 1969, and the United States Secretary of Housing and Urban Development from 1969 to 1973.
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If Romney were born to more common middle class parents he may have earned an MBA and JD but likely not at Harvard. The fact that his father was a governor, president of a major corporation and a U.S. cabinet member surely helped in the Harvard Department of Admissions.

50 posted on 07/29/2012 3:43:03 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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