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Schumer, Gillibrand push for $9.80 federal minimum wage
Associated Press ^ | July 29, 2012

Posted on 07/29/2012 4:05:36 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

ALBANY -- New York Senators Charles Schumer and Kirsten Gillibrand support an increase to the federal minimum wage, while a similar proposal is stalled in Albany.

The Democrats support an increase in the federal minimum wage to $9.80 an hour. The current federal minimum wage is $7.25.

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1 posted on 07/29/2012 4:05:47 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Hell why not make it $100 an hour so we can all be rich? /s


2 posted on 07/29/2012 4:06:55 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Why not just make it $50/hr? Then everyone would be pulling down a cool $100 grand a year each, and everyone would be solidly middle class. Poverty would be eliminated in the stroke of a pen!


3 posted on 07/29/2012 4:08:09 PM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: cripplecreek

I see your hundred and raise you a billion gazillion cagillion!


4 posted on 07/29/2012 4:08:09 PM PDT by King_Corey (www.kingcorey.com -- OpenCarry.org)
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To: cripplecreek

$100/hour sounds good.

Of course in the era of Baraqqi/Bernanke/Geithner minibucks, a hamburger will cost $100.


5 posted on 07/29/2012 4:09:41 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Free ThinkerNY

So, they don’t think that anyone who can’t produce at least $9.80 worth of goods and services has a right to a job.


6 posted on 07/29/2012 4:11:10 PM PDT by wolfpat (Not to know what has been transacted in former times is to be always a child. -- Cicero)
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To: King_Corey

I’ll have to load up my truck with a trillion dollars so I can buy a loaf of bread.


7 posted on 07/29/2012 4:11:44 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Instant job loss. Employers will do with eight employees when they really needed 12.


8 posted on 07/29/2012 4:12:00 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (If Obama was any more thin skinned, he'd have a receptacle end: Dennis Miller)
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To: King_Corey

9 posted on 07/29/2012 4:12:05 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Getting re-elected on the backs of those they’re pretending to help ...


10 posted on 07/29/2012 4:13:26 PM PDT by BillyBonebrake
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To: Focault's Pendulum

Bump. I’ve read articles in the past documenting how low wage jobs are lost when the minimum is raised.


11 posted on 07/29/2012 4:13:38 PM PDT by upchuck ("Definition of 'racist:' someone that is winning an argument with a liberal." ~ Peter Brimelow)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

There is no Constitutional authorization for these people to be monkeying around with this.


12 posted on 07/29/2012 4:13:56 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: EEGator
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13 posted on 07/29/2012 4:14:32 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Get rid of them...their stupidity grows greater everyday.

Timing people, timing.


14 posted on 07/29/2012 4:15:10 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Once again, for the hundredth time, the only real reason to increase the minimum wage is that all government employees contracts (union) are tied to a baseline above minimum wage. ie, a postal worker is paid a base wage of X above minimum wage as their contracts are negotiated. So an incease of minimum wage is an immediate raise for every government worker.

Got any questions?

15 posted on 07/29/2012 4:15:37 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Did you ever notice how everything the Democrats do raises the costs to businesses?


16 posted on 07/29/2012 4:16:57 PM PDT by popdonnelly (The first priority is get Obama out of the White House.)
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To: wolfpat

If you go to Wash DC, at least the section near the WH and Capitol, all the working peeps are guys in $1000 dollar suits and women in $400 dresses and skirts.

So it’s very easy to understand they’d have little concept of what minimum wage help even looks like or can accomplish.


17 posted on 07/29/2012 4:17:08 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Free ThinkerNY

No doubt they’ll say that “we” want to give workers a raise. How very easy it must be to spend other people’s money.


18 posted on 07/29/2012 4:20:58 PM PDT by hitkicker (The only thing worse than a politician is a child molester)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Interesting that they couldn’t find any takers in Albany - so they try to dump this crap on the entire country.

Good luck!!!


19 posted on 07/29/2012 4:26:51 PM PDT by BobL ( It's easy to be a saint when you have nothing on the line)
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To: cripplecreek

If Obama’s son had $17...


20 posted on 07/29/2012 4:27:13 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Free ThinkerNY

21 posted on 07/29/2012 4:28:09 PM PDT by tumblindice (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: hitkicker

“No doubt they’ll say that “we” have to give workers a raise in order to offset the burden of paying for their obamacare.” - There, fixed it.


22 posted on 07/29/2012 4:28:34 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: tumblindice
Who run Bartertown?

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23 posted on 07/29/2012 4:31:35 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

Every dollar an hour they raise minimum wage, more jobs will be lost.

Obama and his fellow travelers don’t miss a trick do they.

What do they plan on doing when there are no more jobs?

How do you measure success, when you’ve already destroyed every job in the U. S.?

Do you then start projecting?

“Well, this would have cost 100,000 jobs, but there weren’t 100,000 people working.”

“We do deserve the credit though! We tried very hard to kill off more jobs. We’re hoping voters will remember this on election day.”


24 posted on 07/29/2012 4:34:44 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Remove all Democrats from the Republican party, and we won't have much Left, just a lot of Right.)
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To: King_Corey

“I see your hundred and raise you a billion gazillion cagillion!”

We all see your attempt at absurdity, your point would be much more effective if you used much more realistic numbers like “one hundred and eleventy billion”


25 posted on 07/29/2012 4:37:04 PM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: cripplecreek
Two men enter. One man leave.
26 posted on 07/29/2012 4:38:39 PM PDT by tumblindice (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: popdonnelly
Did you ever notice how everything the Democrats do raises the costs to businesses?

Small comfort, indeed, when George McGovern tried to run a B&B in CT, and was flummoxed by all the regs, and realized why normal Americans wouldn't vote for him.

27 posted on 07/29/2012 4:40:39 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Free ThinkerNY
You guys are off on an ideological rant about this when what is called for is cold rational thought. So why would Shumer care about giving folks a raise. He doesn't. Instead, he's looking at the employment options of TOMORROW"S Democrat party ~ the illegal aliens.

They need jobs, not a raise, so if he can get the federal minimum wage jacked up a couple more bucks that'll make it worth just that much more to employers to take the risk of hiring illegals for $4.50 an hour. They can then lay off their Americans to collect unemployment.

Never forget, Chuckey is a sociopath. He never does anything because he feels pity for them. He is the sort who gets his pound of flesh first.

Gillibrand is simply stupid.

28 posted on 07/29/2012 4:47:19 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Commie lib ‘RATS giving away other people’s money again. There must be some elections coming up. Stuff it Charlie!


29 posted on 07/29/2012 4:48:11 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The NRA did not create James "The Joker" Holmes. Harvey Weinstein's Hollywood did.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Heck, why be such tightwads? Why not $50.00 or $100 an hour? There’s a “living wage” for you.


30 posted on 07/29/2012 4:48:32 PM PDT by Dapper 26
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To: Free ThinkerNY
I have an idea: New York should secede from the United States and become it's own little socialist entity. That way Bloomberg, Schumer, Gillenbrand, the U.N. and all the rest of the liberal do-gooders can live the lives they really want.
31 posted on 07/29/2012 4:50:17 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Black youth unemployment isn’t high enough to suit them?


32 posted on 07/29/2012 4:51:34 PM PDT by Iron Munro ("Jiggle the Handle for Barry!")
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To: arasina
its not it's

Spellcheck put the apostrophe in there. grrr

33 posted on 07/29/2012 4:52:22 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: blackdog
You are nuts ~ for postal workers the baseline is whatever they were already working, and that's already nearly 7 X the minimum wage.

That's a fur jump.

34 posted on 07/29/2012 4:53:51 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: cripplecreek

According to BLS, June unemployment among “Black or African-American” teens was 39.3%. Schumer and Gillibrand don’t think it’s high enough, and want it to go even higher?


35 posted on 07/29/2012 4:56:21 PM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: tumblindice
That is entirely uncalled for!


36 posted on 07/29/2012 4:58:36 PM PDT by Iron Munro ("Jiggle the Handle for Barry!")
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Well that seems fair. $20 an hour even fairer. You are only living when you have money left over after you pay your bills. ..Cell phone, cable ...


37 posted on 07/29/2012 4:58:36 PM PDT by SMGFan (SMGfan is not "Sub Machine Gun" fan)
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To: dsrtsage

Is that Tobey Maguire as Keanu Reeves on SNL’s Celebrity Jeopardy?


38 posted on 07/29/2012 5:00:28 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Free ThinkerNY

We will soon be hearing about a “maximum wage” from these Marxsts. Perhaps as soon as the DNC.


39 posted on 07/29/2012 5:02:24 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

These idiots will never fix anything


40 posted on 07/29/2012 5:04:52 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: BillyBonebrake

How about $25,000 per hour?


41 posted on 07/29/2012 5:06:43 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: muawiyah
No, you don't get it.

A postal working today makes a base wage of say $14.00 over minimum wage, or about $21 per hour(a figure which is too low, but just for example purposes).

Next, a hike in the minimum wage of $1.50 takes place. That means the new base wage for the postal or government worker's next paycheck and pension accruals just rose from $21 per hour, to $22.50.

Get it now?

42 posted on 07/29/2012 5:07:47 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Just a crass political move on the part of Chuck U.

He knows it isn’t going anywhere, that’s what makes it so easy to promote and it provides a talking point to encourage the votes of his constituency.

Is he going to be putting it up for a vote in the Senate?


43 posted on 07/29/2012 5:09:33 PM PDT by I_Like_Spam
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To: Iron Munro
The former speaker of the house who just won't go way appears to have some sort of syph-lip, or chancre on her lower lip, doesn't she? I don't think I'd hit her even for a minimum wage of .... one million dollars!
44 posted on 07/29/2012 5:13:10 PM PDT by tumblindice (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: tumblindice

Nancy, Nancy!!

Come quick, there’s a vote on the house floor.


45 posted on 07/29/2012 5:16:22 PM PDT by VMI70
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To: blackdog; muawiyah

I learned something new today. Many thanks!

But, I think you picked the wrong guy to try and reason with. “38 years with the USPS”


46 posted on 07/29/2012 5:25:09 PM PDT by VMI70
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To: blackdog
To start with ALL postal workers pay 10% for their medical insurance ~ so that's a good $12,500 non cash benefit right off the bat.

Secondly, the chart you looked at is from 2008, and you used a number applicable to only a handful of part time flexible mail handlers. Not even sure they have that position anymore.

March 2011 saw a level 5 carrier ~ on the average making about $50,000 to $53,000 dependingon service time, and on top of that he gets life insurance and aforesaid medical insurance, and that kicks him up to $66,000 without any difficulty.

There are also supervisors and other employees who make more.

The effective hourly rate for that carrier would be about $33.00 per hour, but if you want to compute it out discounting for days off (which you don't get paid for on minimum wage jobs), he's up to well over $35.00 per hour.

Cost to the company is more like $50.00 per hour ~ all things considered ~ roof over head, safe vehicles to drive on the job (for carriers), air conditioning in summer (for clerks) and heat in the winter.

USPS is not currently hiring very many people of course, so starting wage isn't even in the picture there.

Minimum wage doesn't have built in pay raises. it just is.

BTW, worked at USPS headquarters for 4 decades and not once did I hear anyone ever advance the idea that postal pay should be pegged to minimum wage. After all, it's nearly 100% unionized. Currently they are still at the beginning of a 5 year agreement so their pay for the next few years is FIXED. It has no financial or time linkage of any kind to minimum wage.

47 posted on 07/29/2012 5:32:54 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Why not do it just in NY?


48 posted on 07/29/2012 5:39:37 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: muawiyah
My neighbor is a floater who gets assigned to one of four stations at any given time. She is a counter worker. She's a very hard working person. She gets paid incredibly well. She's been a postal worker for about twelve years. She showed me about four years ago how she got increases based on the last hike in the minimum wage.

Her biggest complaint is how supervisors or managers try to make things a living hell for many workers. Her suggestion was that they want them(hourly workers) to quit.

49 posted on 07/29/2012 5:39:48 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: coloradan

Why not $50? Don’t tempt them. Keep in mind that the reason they want to raise it to that level is that the going wage in NY is already higher than that level so that it won’t affect their State. Their strategy is to fix it so that other States won’t be able to compete against NY for those jobs because those employers will need to pay as much in other States as they do in NY.


50 posted on 07/29/2012 5:42:59 PM PDT by Brilliant
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