Skip to comments.Mall says U.S. flags on kiddie train must go
Posted on 07/29/2012 5:56:19 PM PDT by hiho hiho
CLACKAMAS, Ore. - A fight over the American flag is brewing at the Clackamas Town Center.
The manager of the children's train at the mall says he's being forced to remove flags that he uses to decorate the train ride.
Why? The mall told him the flags are against policy.
Thomas Phelps said he was floored when he got a letter from mall management telling him that the flags were "unapproved visuals."
That reference didn't sit too well with Phelps, who also happens to be a military veteran.
"That is dedicated to veterans and military, police, firefighters, EMTs - all those people that daily put their lives on the line for us," Phelps said. "That's what it's dedicated to. And if you're going to call that a Christmas decoration or something, then I'm sorry, I don't want to be around you. You're not in my country."
Phelps said he would understand if it was causing a problem but he said nobody has complained - not once.
And he isn't alone in his feelings. Connie Marsden, a local grandmother, told us "It's the United States. That's our flag. We should be proud of it. Not be forced to take it off a little ride for the kids."
The mall did not allow our news camera on its property but a family who took a train ride on Sunday told us they enjoyed the ride and didn't understand why the flags were a problem.
The Clackamas Town Center sent us a written response when we asked for comment. General Manager Dennis Curtis wrote in an e-mail "we honor, appreciate and respect everything the U.S. flag represents."
Still, Phelps said mall management isn't budging and he's prepared to lose his job before he takes down the flags.
"I may be fired, I may be thrown out of the mall, but I am not taking it down," he said.
I am so tired of fighting the same wars over and over.
Of course, if they were using the homosexual symbol rainbow flag, then it would be a hate crime to remove it. It would be required to stay in place.
If the rules do not refer to the US flag, tell 'em to take a hike and if they push it, tell them you'll sue them and publicize it.
Send the Liberal sewer slime, who object, a copy of the Star Spangled Banner or a photo of the flag raisiing on Iwo Jima. Then tell them where you would like to put the flag.
I was gonna suggest Muslim flags but your idea’s good too.
Shame on these people.
They need to find a better country.
I suggest everyone in Oregon, get out as fast as possible.
Clackamas Town Center
12000 SE 82nd Avenue
Happy Valley, Oregon 97086
Phone (503) 653-6913
Fax (503) 653-7251
(including food court)
Specialty Leasing Representative:
They won't! But they do need to find a different one.
(Hi Miss Onyx)
These are the types of people who are running this country into the ground
“I may be fired, I may be thrown out of the mall, but I am not taking it down,” he said.
Three cheers for this Patriot, Thomas Phelps!
Guess it’s time to display yet another Old Glory at my ‘compound’.
Clack Mall is about to feel the wrath of the people. Apparently those Stalinists running the mall don’t need American loving customers.
Pray for America
According to the comments at the link, Clackamas Town Center overall management is Clackamas Mall,LLC owned by General Growth Properties in Chicago. Here is their email address:
Also from the link the General Manager of General Growth Properties Is:
Dennis Curtis, contact at:firstname.lastname@example.org
“I’m not taking it down he said.”
He’s making all that trouble over a silly flag.
Apparently the Mall Management must approve all visual displays.
I would suggest that this man poll the other vendors in the mall and question whether they had ever had a display rejected by the mall management. Had they ever receive such a letter?
I suspect that he is being treated differently.
I doubt that it would benefit him legally to show that he is being discriminated because of his flags but I bet that it would help him with the press.
I love my country
unfortunately... this ain’t it
anyone catch the forwarding address?
Are you kidding?
In my opinion, the flaq should go...
I fed up with political correctness, anti-Americanism, communists, socialists, progressives, homos, and anything that is a hyphenated-American. It’s American with nothing else in front. Americans built this republic of ours and this diversity tolerance thing has to go.
I had friends who died for the flag. Make no laws or rules forbidding its display.
Of course.... Oregon is not part of the United States.
In part reference to the Chick-fil-A fustercluck, Mark Steyn said it well today...
‘Until more citizens of free nations are willing to say to statist hacks Who the hell do you think you are?,liberty will continue to bleed.’
Left coast--but pretty much all coastal areas plus inland port Chicago.
It’s so fun watching the birth of a social media sh!tstorm! Can’t wait to watch it grow into a wonderful adult Poonami!
Give little flags to the kids to wave while on the train. Sell them outside te mall Have people at tain stop singing God Bless America
The Marxist,Progressive,Democrats are finally showing their true colors, RED hate for America and will never give up until they are run out of town on a rail covered in Tar and Feathers. Lets Roll!
I could care less what you think. There is a long tradition of decorating locomotives with US flags in this country.
They probably don't want the mall to look like a used car lot. To some the flag is nothing more than a sales tool.
Then throw out the train and their rails. Forget they were there. We don’t need non-American thinking. If they don’t want our flag...move somewhere else. we don’t need this kind of non-American thinking
I agree....That is quite improper. Put a couple of flag decals on the train like I have on my car.
Thanks. That explains it. It's a Chicago/Hillary/Obama deal.
That’s the train? You’re correct, that flag is being improperly displayed. I thought he had it on a staff or something....
Hopefully in my lifetime this sh!t is gonna come to a head and soon. These people are going to rue the day.
I am SICK AND TIRED of these no good sorry assed welfare sucking government tit no good RATS I could scream!
There was a study a while back that showed that children raised honoring the American flag turned out more likely to be Republican. Does anybody out there remember that study and where I may get my hands on it?
The flag shouldn’t go, but it’s preferable that it be properly displayed, IMO.
The Flag Code further says; “ When the flag is displayed on a motorcar, the staff shall be fixed firmly to the chassis or clamped to the right fender”
Clackamas is in Portlandia. What do you expect?
Win the the “BS” fight first, then move the flags to a proper display.
I wonder if any of the stores in Clackamas Town Center sell any Fourth of July decorations? Or decorate with flags in their stores?
Thanks for posting the contact info.
Freepers — go for it!
MINE IS FLYING OUTSIDE RIGHT NOW. It will fly continually until I am to dead to lower the lanyard. I fly a storm flag with a spotlight so it never has to come down. I removed the bear flag about 15 years ago when I decided California was to commie/progressive/liberal to display it’s colors along with the Stars and Stripes. Sounds like we might have been “in country” at the same time. 3/11th Marines, Khe Sanh 69.
SEMPER FIDELIS brother.
I hope you mean like minded freepers...
I won’t want the liberal filth escaping..
They made their bed. They can sleep in it.
nobody has complained - not onceI bet that's not true. I bet some leftist complained directly to mall management, who are obviously leftists themselves.