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Liz Cheney Disagrees With Father On Palin, Calls Her ‘More Qualified Than Obama And Biden’
Mediaite ^ | July 29th, 2012 | Josh Feldman

Posted on 07/30/2012 9:38:26 AM PDT by kingattax

ABC News aired part of an exclusive interview with former Vice President Dick Cheney this morning, in which Cheney admitted that the choice of Sarah Palin for vice president in 2008 was a “mistake.”

Liz Cheney took to Twitter to voice her disagreement with her father and her overwhelming support for Palin. Cheney has been very supportive of Palin since her 2008 nomination, and tweeted her dissent with her father earlier today, arguing that Palin is more qualified than the current president and vice president.

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KEYWORDS: 2008veep; cheney; lizcheney; palin
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1 posted on 07/30/2012 9:38:29 AM PDT by kingattax
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To: kingattax

Perhaps not “more qualified”, but certainly “less unqualified”.


2 posted on 07/30/2012 9:42:03 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: kingattax

I’d call Palin more qualified than Obama, Biden, Reid, Pelosi, Romney, Bachmann, Santorum, Perry, Cain, and just about every current or former US Senator, Congressman, or Governor. It’s a shame that at this point in her life she and her family were not ready to face the pure evil from the far left fringe and their propaganda corps in the mainstream media. I hope America deserves someone at her level in four years, that we will have a free election then, and that her family is ready for the battle.


3 posted on 07/30/2012 9:44:08 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: kingattax

Liz Cheney is right on!!! Obama is a moron racist, elitist and Biden is a buffoon’s buffoon!!! Palin has more smarts in her little pinky finger then Obama, Biden and the entire Democrat Party combined!!! End of story!!!


4 posted on 07/30/2012 9:45:23 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX (My only objective is defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: kingattax

McCain would have lost by 30 points if he had not chosen Sarah. Her mistake was how she handled the media. She
was done in by Katie Couric and Saturday Night Live.


5 posted on 07/30/2012 9:46:42 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: kingattax
She was more qualified than Obama,Biden and McPain.
6 posted on 07/30/2012 9:49:10 AM PDT by parthian shot
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

From what I’ve seen of Liz, she’s got a stronger conservative core than her old man, his being a longtime GOP fixture and having the standard beltway evolution. Liz is correct with her descriptions, but she still has time to evolve in the wrong direction.


7 posted on 07/30/2012 9:50:51 AM PDT by izzatzo (Just beat Obama.)
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To: kingattax; AuntB; wardaddy; DoughtyOne; mkjessup; stephenjohnbanker; Gilbo_3

This is really pointless subject/debate.

If Palin thought she was ‘ready to be POTUS’ then she would have run for POTUS as so many here (for about two years) claimed she was doing. She is a better judge of her abilities than the Cheney’s who..... didn’t Cheney pick himself in 2000? Well I am sure he thinks that ‘he’ was a great ‘pick’ he made.

Who is Liz Cheney? Another FNC commentator?


8 posted on 07/30/2012 9:55:20 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: kingattax
I don't see how anybody in the world can argue that McCain would have had more votes without Palin. Palin was the ticket. McCain was the liability.
9 posted on 07/30/2012 10:02:22 AM PDT by ryan71
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To: sickoflibs

If it’s pointless then why are you here? Who is Liz Cheney? Seriously?


10 posted on 07/30/2012 10:02:30 AM PDT by JaguarXKE (If my Fluffy had a puppy, it would look like the puppy Obama ate!)
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To: kingattax

A real test of unconditional love for Dick for his daughter: gay and now politically dissenting.


11 posted on 07/30/2012 10:04:27 AM PDT by Rennes Templar
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To: JaguarXKE
RE :” Who is Liz Cheney? Seriously?

I see her on FNS from time to time. Has she accomplished something that makes her an authority on anything(anymore than any of them)? Did she run for POTUS?

12 posted on 07/30/2012 10:06:57 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: Buckeye McFrog

she was also thrown under the bus by the establishment rino good old boys club as well.


13 posted on 07/30/2012 10:12:30 AM PDT by Jeff Vader (voting for romney, would much rather have Sarah Palin)
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To: kingattax

I respect Cheney for his years of service...and he did serve well. But lately, he just sounds like a grumpy old man who is mad at everyone.


14 posted on 07/30/2012 10:15:51 AM PDT by AdamBomb
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To: AdamBomb
Cheney's statement was that although he likes Palin, he thought that she needed more experience at that point of career! He never compared her abilities to Dumb and dumber.
15 posted on 07/30/2012 10:27:37 AM PDT by redflash ("A dog is a dog until you look him in the face, then he is Mr. Dog!")
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To: DuncanWaring

The successful Governor and perhaps the most popular governor in our history was more qualified than any of them and more qualified than the failed governor from Massachusetts who left office a failure with 34% approval.


16 posted on 07/30/2012 10:38:42 AM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors,,, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: sickoflibs

Cool, side with the left and the rinos to attack the leader of the conservative movement in America.

Go Cruz.


17 posted on 07/30/2012 10:40:12 AM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors,,, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: DuncanWaring

Well said.


18 posted on 07/30/2012 10:59:32 AM PDT by Kinder Gentler Machinegun Hand
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To: ansel12
RE :”Cool, side with the left and the rinos to attack the leader of the conservative movement in America.

Who is that? Michelle Bachmann? She is the only one being attacked for taking a brave stand. I heard Cheney praise Palin who is a highly paid ‘political commentator’. Why would anyone attack a commentator?

As far as Palin not being ready to be POTUS she decided to NOT run for POTUS even after all the pointless begging and pleading here. I didnt tell her not to run. If she thought she was ready then it would make sense for her to run. Is that obvious logic an 'attack? Like the so called Chick-o-flt 'attack on 'gays?'

If love Bachmann but I wouldnt go into a hissy fit if someone said she wasnt ready to run as a number of Palinistas did last year.

19 posted on 07/30/2012 11:00:36 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: kingattax

I don’t understand why this is even coming up now. The 2 early morning shows on FOX both covered it with more emphasis on the fact that her “only experience” was as a governor for two years. There seemed to be a consensus among all the broadcasters and responders that only experience in a government job is worth anything.

It’s almost as if they feel the need to dispense with and minimize Palin once and for all before the Republican convention this fall.


20 posted on 07/30/2012 11:01:05 AM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: DuncanWaring

Unfortunately infinitely more qualified than Derelict Duo of 2008 and equally less electable. The risks are too high in this election to have too much polarization on the ballot.


21 posted on 07/30/2012 11:07:01 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: sickoflibs

” If love Bachmann but I wouldnt go into a hissy fit if someone said she wasnt ready to run as a number of Palinistas did last year. “

Neither would I, and Palin has backed more than a few RINOS for public office. That to me is not what a conservative leader does.


22 posted on 07/30/2012 11:09:15 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: sickoflibs

Palin leads the conservative movement, Bachmann doesn’t.

Let’s hope that the top endorsement in America takes Cruz to the Senate.


23 posted on 07/30/2012 11:09:43 AM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors,,, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: izzatzo

Liz is preparing to run for her father’s old seat. She is a good enough politician to know who not to piss off.


24 posted on 07/30/2012 11:09:52 AM PDT by des
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To: Rennes Templar
A real test of unconditional love for Dick for his daughter: gay and now politically dissenting.

Not the same woman.

Liz Cheney is not her sister Mary Cheney.

25 posted on 07/30/2012 11:10:47 AM PDT by x
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To: sickoflibs

There is a reason that Sarah Palin chose not to run for president this time. It’s because she knew that she did not have the support of the GOP-E, who would rather see Obama re-elected than her. Sarah, along with the rest of us tea partiers, are a direct threat to their power.

Had Palin run and lost, the GOP-E would have blamed her for the loss they caused. If we are to take back our country, we’ll need to be more strategic than that.


26 posted on 07/30/2012 11:15:22 AM PDT by upsdriver
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27 posted on 07/30/2012 11:17:00 AM PDT by xp38
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To: stephenjohnbanker; ansel12; upsdriver
RE :”Neither would I, and Palin has backed more than a few RINOS for public office. That to me is not what a conservative leader does

OK, this has been explained to you MANY times. She HAD to help McCain win his AZ primary so she could sew up the nomination against Romney early THIS year.

If she didnt help McCain win (and as a sign of loyalty ) we would have Romney as a nominee right now.... ....what??... you say he is the nominee??....When did that happen?? How many electorals did she get? She didnt even try??? And we are still stuck with RINO McCain who is attacking THE REAL conservative Bachmann?

HA-HA, remember that lame excuse ??

Don't say 'she's not ready'. That drives them nuts. Only she can say that she is not ready on the Levin show then it's like it was written on the Stone Tablets.

28 posted on 07/30/2012 11:27:44 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: upsdriver; stephenjohnbanker
RE :”Had Palin run and lost, the GOP-E would have blamed her for the loss they caused. If we are to take back our country, we’ll need to be more strategic than that.

So you are saying she didn't run because she knew she would get beaten by Obama. So she strategically let Romney have the nomination after the Bus and book tours, Iwoa passion video, The UnDefeated and dancing with the stars? And helping RINO Mccain?? I guess that was ‘strategic in a way.

Then she seemed to support Newt. If I follow your 'theory' she wanted Newt to lose to Obama and get the blame vfor the loss. Wow that is clever. LOL

29 posted on 07/30/2012 11:42:22 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: sickoflibs

The usual children’s play at swatting at the leader of the conservative movement in America.

Ping rabscuttle and pissant to your anti-Palin fest, in the meantime we conservatives are rooting for her to take Cruz over the top tomorrow.


30 posted on 07/30/2012 11:53:11 AM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors,,, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: kingattax
In the same interview with ABC News, Dick Cheney leveled some very tough criticism at Barack Obama. Jonathan Karl asked if Cheney thought Obama was worse than Jimmy Carter, and Cheney said “yes.” This presents an interesting opportunity to illustrate why it was wrong for Cheney to dismiss Palin the way he did, because while most Americans recall Jimmy Carter as an utter disaster, it is very rare to hear any prominent Democrat describe him that way.

Of course, the media is not interested in maneuvering Democrats into a position where they would be expected to denounce Carter, or make them squirm while refusing to do so. But you’re not going to hear any Democrat with stature comparable to former Vice President Dick Cheney say that Carter’s election was a “mistake,” or that he wasn’t ready for the office. Even with decades of perspective, even after Carter has been a thorn in the sides of his Democrat successors, and even though very few Americans would offer a spirited defense of the Carter presidency, top-level elected Democrats will not throw the Rabbit Slayer under the bus… at least, not in front of news cameras.

Cheney had some interesting thoughts to offer about the vice-presidential selection process, including the observation that every presidential candidate has two veep lists: a list of people he wants to be seen as considering, and a much smaller list of truly serious prospects. But those thoughts could easily have been offered without taking an unnecessary and unwarranted shot at Sarah Palin, who gave the woeful McCain campaign the only signs of a pulse it ever had.

Human Events

31 posted on 07/30/2012 12:02:30 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: sickoflibs

I want a consistent conservative. Not one who bolsters Cruz one time, and a RINO the next. I don’t know of any consistent conservative in the spotlight right now.


32 posted on 07/30/2012 1:12:01 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: sickoflibs

Well, there is one consistent conservative out there. His name is Thomas Sowell. But he is hardly in the spotlight. In fact, he isn’t ALLOWED there!


33 posted on 07/30/2012 1:19:36 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: ansel12; upsdriver; stephenjohnbanker
RE :”The usual children’s play at swatting at the leader of the conservative movement in America.
.........
Ping rabscuttle and pissant to your anti-Palin fest,

I did like Rabs, pissant not so much. He went into a fit one time when I defended Palin. And he liked tax credits,.

Many of those PDSers you cite were just as suckered as your Palinistas cultists were on believing that she WOULD run. That is why they kept posting that she SHOULD NOT run. But not me.....

Nope, I stood above you all like an all knowing seer or prophet and proclaimed consistently that “LO AND BEHOLD, SHE WILL NOT RUN”. And I almost got burned at the stake by your crazy cult for that blasphemy , that turned out to be proved 100% correct. Perceptiveness and reasoning is a cross I bear that keeps me from joining a crazy cult like yours and makes me THE THREAT (does that make me THE ONE???? LOL) .

34 posted on 07/30/2012 1:25:15 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: sickoflibs

Your bitterness and anger are something to see but why you want to knock off the leader of the conservative movement and leave Romney without a Reagan wing of the GOP to challenge him, is puzzling.

If you watched the campaigning you may have noticed that Perry jumped in to knock off the Palin momentum just as it looked like she was peaking in preparation for her announcement, the ex-Gore man stayed just long enough to suck the air out of the conservative threat to Romney, then vanished and is now back in Texas fighting Palin and the tea party.


35 posted on 07/30/2012 1:35:51 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors,,, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: sickoflibs

Modesty becomes you : )

I wasn’t positive Palin wouldn’t run..only 94% sure. I became 100% when she failed to resign from Fox News in a timely manner.


36 posted on 07/30/2012 1:39:48 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: ansel12
RE :”Your bitterness and anger are something to see but why you want to knock off the leader of the conservative movement and leave Romney without a Reagan wing of the GOP to challenge him, is puzzling.

????? It was your Joan of Arc the Mamma Grizzy who sent her horse into battle (the primary) without her and allowed Romney to gain the nomination. As I posted a few times on this thread, I never told her to do that.

I believe she said that running for POTUS would interfere with her career over at FNC as a opinionist. Good thing that those who followed her horse into battle without her (she was getting make up on Greta at the time) are so gullible they haven't figured out how snookered they were. The few that survived.

there is a sucker born every minute and suckers are $$ to those willing to play the tease, wink, smile....

37 posted on 07/30/2012 1:49:31 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: sickoflibs

Well, no one can say that you aren’t obsessed with a single, simple minded hatred, I guess we conservatives will keep on trucking and be glad that the movement has such an effective leader.


38 posted on 07/30/2012 1:54:55 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors,,, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: sickoflibs

It is hard for a middle class working gal to turn down 1 million a year for 5 years, on an “if come” in the political arena. I doubt if Palin will ever run for office again. At least not until her Fox deal is finished.


39 posted on 07/30/2012 2:01:37 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: des

I wish her well and victory, GOP women are showing more, uh, uh, courage than GOP males.


40 posted on 07/30/2012 5:48:23 PM PDT by izzatzo (Just beat Obama.)
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To: ansel12
RE :”Well, no one can say that you aren’t obsessed with a single, simple minded hatred, I guess we conservatives will keep on trucking and be glad that the movement has such an effective leader

The only conservative leader I see Taking on the Republican establishment is brave MBachmann. Your leader of fools (the cultists) chose a cushy $$$ FNC job over taking on Romney in the primary. That reality still apparently has not sunk in. We will never know if she would have beat him because she wasn't willing to try. It interfered with her personal schedule.

I bet she is laughing at your endless pleas for her to run.

41 posted on 07/30/2012 10:23:22 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: stephenjohnbanker
RE :”Modesty becomes you : )

These are what I call playground threads. They are for having fun on. They are about nothing to begin with.;

How about that stuff about the ‘ all knowing seer or prophet’ ? You see any other PDSers posting lines like that ?

42 posted on 07/30/2012 10:31:45 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: sickoflibs

” How about that stuff about the ‘ all knowing seer or prophet’ ? “

all-knowing seer for sure.....prophet? Maybe : )

I should have included Bachmann along with Sowell. Both are top notch. I was for Bachmann for POTUS. When she failed to take , there was nobody left. Cain was okay too. I still believe the GOPe took Cain out. They were scared to death of him, because they could NEVER control him. He was his own man, as Bachmann was her own woman.


43 posted on 07/31/2012 8:19:03 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
RE :”I should have included Bachmann along with Sowell

Actually this guy kicks butt more than either.

Left-Wing Activists Admit Allen West Terrifies Them

44 posted on 07/31/2012 9:00:27 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: stephenjohnbanker
RE :”I still believe the GOPe took Cain out

Well he seemed like he could be a good one to go up against Obama for a while. I was enthused, but then who was the alternative?

When that last woman came out and said that Cain was paying her off for years,err gifts from a 'friend', and his wife didn't know about it but there was no sex it was pretty obvious he was toast and he quit fast. That was the one he couldn't talk his way out of. It made it look like he was lying about all the others. Would you be making regular payments to a single female 'friend' without getting sex (and keep it secret from your wife yet) ?? I cant imagine me doing that and I dont see Cain as the priest type.

After all our opinion of the accusations were really based on our beliefs and his credibility. That last one did it.

45 posted on 07/31/2012 9:11:39 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: sickoflibs

West shows a lot of promise. He could actually run for POTUS next time, if nothing bad happens to him in the interim.


46 posted on 07/31/2012 9:33:06 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: sickoflibs

” After all our opinion of the accusations were really based on our beliefs and his credibility. That last one did it. “

The coup de grace....


47 posted on 07/31/2012 9:34:38 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: sickoflibs
I guess you just don't know much about politics if you don't know that Palin is the conservative leader, Reagan in a skirt, with unlimited charisma and the ability to change the game, a true national personality, and that Bachmann is not wired to ever attain such status, Bachmann can vote well from a Congressional seat, but she is not capable of true leadership and changing the status quo, she is a member, not the leader.

Palin is trying to win us a Senate seat today, let's hope she is successful.

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48 posted on 07/31/2012 9:54:10 AM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors,,, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: ansel12; sickoflibs

” Palin is the conservative leader, Reagan in a skirt, with unlimited charisma and the ability to change the game, a true national personality, and that Bachmann is not wired to ever attain such status, Bachmann can vote well from a Congressional seat, but she is not capable of true leadership and changing the status quo, she is a member, not the leader.”

Bachmann is not a leader like Palin?

Hmmmm....many many FReepers would disagree with you.

And please let me know when Bachmann endorses a RINO like
like Fiorina over a tea party conservative, like DeVore.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/05/08/palin-stands-fiorina-endorsement-amid-backlash-supporters/

Also, Bachmann is in the fight as an elected politician.....she could lose her seat. Whereas Palin is going to collect a big paycheck from Fox, and even more from book sales, regardless of who she endorses.


49 posted on 07/31/2012 10:22:10 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

No, Bachmann is not a leader, she is a congresswoman with no great skills or talent at being a movement leader, she is at her peak and she has little effect on anything, congress ignores her and her presidential run was never a serious threat to anyone.

Bachmann doesn’t carry any weight anywhere, we approve of her as a conservative in the congress, but she is not great leader material.

She is along the lines of Duncan Hunter, we like her, like her votes, but she is not an all important national figure.


50 posted on 07/31/2012 10:53:04 AM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors,,, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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