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Democrats Move to Include Gay Marriage in Party Platform
New York Times ^ | 7/30/12 | Jeremy W. Peters and Michael D. Shear

Posted on 07/30/2012 1:40:39 PM PDT by madprof98

Democrats moved to make same-sex marriage a part of their party platform, placing language that would declare a right for gay men and lesbians to marry on track for approval by the party’s leadership.

Party officials met over the weekend in Minneapolis and approved the first step in the platform-amending process. In two weeks, the entire platform committee will vote on the matter at a meeting scheduled in Detroit. Then, if approved as expected, it would move on to convention delegates in Charlotte, N.C., for final approval in September.

According to Democrats who were briefed on the vote in Minneapolis, there was no objection when the issue came up. Though the language that was voted on still could be revised, party officials do not anticipate any major obstacles going forward.

The platform language approved over the weekend also included a condemnation of the Defense of Marriage Act, which prohibits the federal government from recognizing legal same-sex marriages.

(Excerpt) Read more at thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012dncconvention; democratplatform; doma; gaymarriage; godgap; homosexualagenda; obamabreakspromises; obamalies; relgiousvote; religiousleft; samesexmarriage; sexpositiveagenda; sick; smashmonogamy
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Condemnation, eh? I thought we weren't supposed be "judgmental" anymore.
1 posted on 07/30/2012 1:40:48 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: madprof98

I thought marriage laws varied by state. How can the DNC push for federalizing marriage laws?


2 posted on 07/30/2012 1:43:00 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Eric Holder's NAACP rally against the voter ID laws required the press to bring govt issue photo ID.)
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To: madprof98

The libertarians have had a pro-homosexual platform all along.


3 posted on 07/30/2012 1:43:11 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors,,, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: madprof98

I already thought it was.


4 posted on 07/30/2012 1:44:17 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: madprof98

Now when I say that the Democrats are a bunch of fags they can’t really complain about it, can they?


5 posted on 07/30/2012 1:44:55 PM PDT by MeganC (The Cinemark theatre in Aurora, CO is a 'Gun Free Zone'. Spread the word.)
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To: madprof98

http://www.chick-fil-a.com/Locations/Locator

Support your local 1st amendment downtrodden.


6 posted on 07/30/2012 1:45:04 PM PDT by jessduntno ("Racism is not dead...it is on life support - kept alive by politicians..." - Thomas Sowell)
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To: ansel12
The libertarians have had a pro-homosexual platform all along.
The Drugged-out cheap libertines don't understand or care that gay marriage is about using the power the stand to persecute traditionalists.
7 posted on 07/30/2012 1:45:04 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: madprof98

They are working over time to steal the “stupid party” moniker from the Republicans.


8 posted on 07/30/2012 1:45:50 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: madprof98
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9 posted on 07/30/2012 1:49:15 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: a fool in paradise

A list needs to be put out of every Democrat that votes for this and against it. If they don’t want to get re-elected, then let them vote for it.


10 posted on 07/30/2012 1:50:20 PM PDT by RC2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDMeDmV0ufU)
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To: madprof98

“A right for gay men and lesbians to marry”- that’ll be a dull honeymoon.


11 posted on 07/30/2012 1:50:40 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: a fool in paradise
I thought marriage laws varied by state. How can the DNC push for federalizing marriage laws?

Simple. Barry will just promise that he'll override the states by issuing an executive order.

12 posted on 07/30/2012 1:51:38 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: madprof98

If a gay man and a lesbian want to get married nothing
should stand in their way...


13 posted on 07/30/2012 1:51:44 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: johniegrad

It’s a calculated political risk which isn’t totally insane.

The thought is probably:

1) Those opposed to Gay marriage are concentrated in states they’ll lose anyway, and/or are already voting Republican and couldn’t be persuaded otherwise anyway.

2) Despite grumblings they won’t lose any of the Black vote from this.

3) They get more young voters to turn out in support.

4) They win over independents/moderates/undecideds in swing states with it.


14 posted on 07/30/2012 1:53:19 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: madprof98

That’s it Democrats, Go after guns, ammo, and the Christian marriage. We’ll trade the rest of the population for those who support what you want. Just one suggestion: Please make a big deal out of your party being the party of genocide over the unborn too.

Gotta love it when you opponent does all the heavy lifting for you.


15 posted on 07/30/2012 1:57:21 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Remove all Democrats from the Republican party, and we won't have much Left, just a lot of Right.)
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To: madprof98

What was it that Gollum’s brother said —
“It’s the economy, stupid”

Anything to divert attention to the total complete failure of Zer0’s reign!!


16 posted on 07/30/2012 2:00:14 PM PDT by Noob1999 (Loose Lips, Sink Ships)
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To: Strategerist

Your reasoning isn’t all that unreasoned, but I’m not convinced the Independents are going to glom on to Obama as they did in 2008.

The luster is off this road apple.

It’s a dirty little secret, but even Democrats like guns. Even Democrats aren’t all that crazy over the destruction of the family unit. Some are. Many aren’t.

This guy and his party are alienating people as fast as they can.


17 posted on 07/30/2012 2:01:56 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Remove all Democrats from the Republican party, and we won't have much Left, just a lot of Right.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Oh I think Obama is going to lose in November, and even if this platform plank helps a little bit, it won’t be enough to overcome everything else.

Obviously, from, say, 2020 into the future, gay marriage is a plank that will help them win elections; it’s debatable whether you include it in 2012 and 2016.


18 posted on 07/30/2012 2:05:51 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Strategerist

Thanks Strategerist. In large part that depends on the idiots we nominate too. We’ll see how it plays out. I can see reason for you to adopt that theory.


19 posted on 07/30/2012 2:16:57 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Remove all Democrats from the Republican party, and we won't have much Left, just a lot of Right.)
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To: madprof98

“declare a right for gay men and lesbians to marry....”

What is to keep gay men from marrying lesbians right now?


20 posted on 07/30/2012 2:21:34 PM PDT by RedElement
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To: madprof98
When your opponent insists on doing something really, really, really, really stupid... get out of his way.
21 posted on 07/30/2012 2:24:35 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the collectivists.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
When your opponent insists on doing something really, really, really, really stupid... get out of his way.

Keep in mind the Democrats aren't tailoring their platform to win over Free Republic posters. It's only "really, really, really stupid" if that is what they are trying to do, which they are not.

22 posted on 07/30/2012 2:26:50 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: madprof98

Excellent idea, for democrats.


23 posted on 07/30/2012 2:28:23 PM PDT by unique1
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To: Strategerist
Nope.

How would you like to be a moderate (D) down ticket in a conservative southern district having to defend that platform?

It is sign of desperation when you have to shore up your eroding base. Young voters are not going to turn out because he's already screwed them in the job market, they have already lost some of the black vote and he needs it ALL to have a chance, and this issue has been a consistent problem for them in all but the bluest of blue state.

This is an absolute loser for them and I hope they are stupid enough to do it.

24 posted on 07/30/2012 2:29:06 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: Strategerist
Oh I think Obama is going to lose in November, and even if this platform plank helps a little bit, it won’t be enough to overcome everything else.

Bingo, no one else is this thread got this point. There was no reason to do this right now. This is some desperate political calculus by the Dems. they are running out of constituency groups. they have lost the lower middle class white vote..gone, was gone in 2010. This is a ploy to get better voter turnout in the Upper Middle Class suburbs like Faifax,Va and Jupiter, Florida. You know the demographic that just loves those stupid snarky network sitcoms and feels good about shopping Trader Joes and paying 6 bucks for an avocado. You know the ccouple which the husband long ago gave his testicles to his wife for safe keeping and they never really noticed the signs that little Brenden was way to into his Sister's Barbie dolls. Going to be epic watching Obama in the freezing rain at Grant Park in Chicago as Mochella and his spawn blubber as Obama gives his concession speech.

25 posted on 07/30/2012 2:38:18 PM PDT by pburgh01 (No more GWBs, say no to Perry.)
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To: Strategerist
Oh I think Obama is going to lose in November, and even if this platform plank helps a little bit, it won’t be enough to overcome everything else.

Bingo, no one else is this thread got this point. There was no reason to do this right now. This is some desperate political calculus by the Dems. they are running out of constituency groups. they have lost the lower middle class white vote..gone, was gone in 2010. This is a ploy to get better voter turnout in the Upper Middle Class suburbs like Faifax,Va and Jupiter, Florida. You know the demographic that just loves those stupid snarky network sitcoms and feels good about shopping Trader Joes and paying 6 bucks for an avocado. That late 40's something couple in which the husband long ago gave his testicles to his wife for safe keeping and they never really noticed the signs that little Brenden was way to into his Sister's Barbie dolls. Going to be epic watching Obama in the freezing rain at Grant Park in Chicago as Mochella and his spawn blubber as Obama gives his concession speech.

26 posted on 07/30/2012 2:39:50 PM PDT by pburgh01 (No more GWBs, say no to Perry.)
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To: madprof98

This is cool. The Democratic Party can officially be the gay party for the first gay president, not counting Hillary’s co presidency.


27 posted on 07/30/2012 2:40:14 PM PDT by pallis
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To: Noob1999

This should disenfranchise what’s left of Christian Dems. Everywhere its been put to a vote, it has lost. This should peel off some Catholics, blacks and hispanics from Dem ranks. It was ingenious of the gays to propose this. No one in Dem leadership has the guts to publicly oppose it, even if they personally are against it. Just when we need a miracle, the gays come through for us. I love it!


28 posted on 07/30/2012 2:43:38 PM PDT by Brownie63
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To: pburgh01

I don’t think we’ll get to see that Grant Park debacle as much as we’d all love it.

I think this is going to be such a margin they’ll know he’s doomed in time to avoid that.

No self-respecting narcissist allows themselves to be put in that position if they can avoid it.

So, if you hear before election day that their “celebration” will be low key, he’s toast.


29 posted on 07/30/2012 2:46:25 PM PDT by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: pburgh01
as Obama gives his concession speech.

Oh, but it will be "one of the prettiest sounds on Earth".

30 posted on 07/30/2012 2:47:12 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

A beautiful noise.


31 posted on 07/30/2012 2:50:21 PM PDT by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: madprof98

Gay marriage, abortion, appeasement, pay more for worse medical care, higher taxes, strangulation of middle class job creators, phony baloney green subsidies, power blackouts, gays in the military, on an on...

Wow, all this and the worst economy in eighty years. And polls show that a majority of voters want four more years of it.

Suicidal insanity is now spelled U-S-A.


32 posted on 07/30/2012 2:50:40 PM PDT by Argus
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To: madprof98

Fine. Let them run on a Sandusky-NAMBLA platform. We’ll stick to traditional marriage and family values.


33 posted on 07/30/2012 2:53:07 PM PDT by jersey117
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To: Strategerist

They probably looked at the % the amendments passed by, how conservative or liberal the state is, and when they passed. Yes, they have a wonderful success rate. But what will it be in 10 years? In 20? In 30? I mean 30 years ago the issue of ‘gay marriage’ wasn’t even on the radar. Folks would have thought you were absolutely nutso if you said in 1982 only 61% of the voters of 2012 NC would think traditional state recognition of marriage was the way to go. Liberal Hawaii actually passed its amendment by 69% in ‘98, beating fairly conservative North Carolina by 8% with a 14 year gap.

Freegards


34 posted on 07/30/2012 3:00:45 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: Ransomed

I see your point and it does seem discouraging, but remember the Big Gay organizations have sold gay marriage as an equality thing, and gays have always been portrayed as victims. I think that pe5rception is beginning to change, despite the media. In a way it’s a compliment to Americansw because they want to be compassionate and help victims, they want to be fair.

Media can no longer cover up the bullying and hate that Big Gay is pouring out, or their strong drive to dominate and rob the treasury for themselves, their destruction of the Episcopal church, their demands for more and more privileges and the institution of homosexual sex ed. There may be a backlash happening here around CFA and gays in the military, especially the San Diego fiasco. Maybe.


35 posted on 07/30/2012 3:11:20 PM PDT by squarebarb
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To: madprof98
Go for it, Dems!

They are out of their minds.

36 posted on 07/30/2012 3:17:52 PM PDT by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: madprof98

I wasn’t going to vote for any of those C********ers anyway!


37 posted on 07/30/2012 3:21:03 PM PDT by BatGuano (You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket, do ya?)
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To: madprof98

I don’t mean “classbaiters” either.


38 posted on 07/30/2012 3:23:24 PM PDT by BatGuano (You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket, do ya?)
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To: madprof98
This helps Obama, it doesn't hurt him. He announced support for gay marriage earlier this year and saw a huge surge in the intensity of his support and popularity among his core, and no drop in general polling numbers. The Party Platform of a sitting President mirrors his policy commitments, and failing to include this provision would have weakened that benefit of intensity.

It has been clear for many years that Democratic voters have zero problem splitting their tickets, voting against gay marriage as an isolated question while voting in favor of politicians who support gay marriage covertly or overtly, including to the extent of disregarding or overturning ballot questions about it. The people who would care enough not to vote Democrat over this one issue haven't been voting Democrat anyway.
39 posted on 07/30/2012 3:24:40 PM PDT by only1percent
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To: BfloGuy

This is a winner for the Dems. Harry Reid should call for an immediate vote in the Senate to repeal DOMA.\s

CC


40 posted on 07/30/2012 5:21:11 PM PDT by Captain Compassion
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To: Captain Compassion

The democrats have been using the murder of alive unborn children as an empowerment scheme for decades now. Why not add sexual degeneracy to their planks? Yeah, the party of murder and sexual degeneracy! And look how many of our fellow Americans vote for this sickness! What’s the black pregnancy abortion rate/murder rate now?


41 posted on 07/30/2012 5:31:54 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: madprof98

Democrats are the queer party? What could go wrong?


42 posted on 07/30/2012 5:36:22 PM PDT by MasterGunner01 (11)
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To: madprof98

Let’s hope so!


43 posted on 07/31/2012 5:04:38 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: madprof98; Liz; LottieDah; Lauren BaRecall; LucyT; beaversmom; netmilsmom; MaggieCarta; PGalt; ...
Well, I always knew the 'Rat party was sick and getting sicker, and this is is merely the latest indication of it.

Hard to believe that not one person in that assembly that drew up the suggestions for the platform raised any objection. You would think someone among these politicos might have taken notice of the fact that gay marriage propositions have failed in every state they've been put up to a vote. So it can't be very popular with the general electorate.

Yes, there's a sense of Schadenfreude here that the 'Rats will be inflicting unnecessary wounds on themselves come November.

44 posted on 07/31/2012 1:09:20 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: madprof98

I fully support their misguided efforts.


45 posted on 07/31/2012 1:32:22 PM PDT by Leep (Enemy of the Statist)
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To: madprof98

I hope they do.

Poll: Obama’s gay marriage push hurts him with independents

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/05/11/poll-obamas-gay-marriage-push-hurts-him-with-independents/#ixzz22Ej2wAtt


46 posted on 07/31/2012 2:06:11 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: only1percent

Good analysis. That’s exactly what will happen, and the Dems wouldn’t have done this without a lot of analysis of possible outcomes.

This secures the support of Hollywood and the chattering classes, who bring the dems their big bucks. The rest of Obama’s fans may vote against the actual issue if they can, but it’s not going to affect their support for Obama or any Dem candidate.


47 posted on 07/31/2012 3:00:28 PM PDT by livius
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To: madprof98


48 posted on 07/31/2012 3:16:04 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: justiceseeker93

Don’t listen to the “pragmatists,” Dems. Stick to your principles, remain upright. The American people will accept it once it’s been put to them and they realize how much they like it. All it will take is a little lubrication and a bit of pushing.


49 posted on 07/31/2012 3:30:17 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Eleutheria5
All it will take is a little lubrication and a bit of pushing.

LOL!!!

50 posted on 07/31/2012 3:37:28 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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