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Threat of IEDs growing at home
My SanAntonio.com ^ | July 29, 2012 | Stewar Powell

Posted on 07/30/2012 4:08:57 PM PDT by AuntB

WASHINGTON — Improvised explosive devices, like those that have killed and maimed thousands of American soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan, pose a growing threat across Texas and the United States, leading to calls for urgent cooperation between U.S. military experts and civilian law enforcement officers.

Army Lt. Gen. Michael Barbero, director of the Pentagon's so-called Joint Improvised Explosive Device Defeat Organization, alerted Congress in classified testimony this month to the mounting IED threat at home.

He also highlighted the challenges his team faces trying to train stateside law enforcement agencies to detect, disarm and defeat the devices.

“The domestic IED threat from both homegrown terrorists and global threat networks is real and presents a significant security challenge for the United States and our international partners,” Barbero warned a subcommittee of the House Committee on Homeland Security.

Of 880 terrorist attacks in North and South America last year — most in Mexico and Colombia — 109 were carried out by IEDs that killed or wounded 245 people; 18 were carried out by vehicle-born IEDs that killed or wounded 180 people, according to statistics maintained by the North Atlantic Treaty Organization.

In the United States, there were 24 terrorist attacks last year that killed 13 people and wounded 33, according to the report by NATO's Center of Excellence for Defense Against Terrorism.

But legal restrictions on the activities of U.S. armed forces are slowing crucial collaboration, insiders complain.

Federal laws dating to the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 limit the use of U.S. armed forces in domestic law enforcement and training, an impediment some members of Congress want to change.

The Pentagon's specialized $1.9 billion-a-year IED organization has “saved many servicemen's lives by teaching lessons learned in blood on the battlefields of Iraq and Afghanistan,” say Republican Congressmen Peter King of New York, Daniel Lungren of California, and Michael McCaul of Texas, leaders of the House Committee on Homeland Security.

“Their hard-won knowledge should now be shared with American lawmen facing these same deadly threats at home.”

“To me it's crazy that the guy who is the expert on IEDs overseas can't coordinate with the Texas Rangers,” adds McCaul. “The military is unable to coordinate with state and local law enforcement, leaving a gaping hole in our security.”

Evidence of the threat has surfaced repeatedly. A car bomb was disarmed in New York City's Times Square and explosives were discovered in ink cartridges aboard two U.S.-bound commercial cargo planes in 2010. Improvised explosives in an airline passenger's underwear nearly brought down a Detroit-bound airliner in 2009.

The suspect in the Aurora, Colo., movie theater massacre, James Holmes, deployed IEDs in his apartment, authorities said.

With Mexican drug cartels using car bombs in cities bordering Texas, officials along the southwest border are increasingly concerned about ready-to-go devices being smuggled into the United States.

Texas Department of Public Safety Director Steven McCraw, citing the widening threat, has pressured the Pentagon to help train officers to detect IEDs and also is seeking FBI approval for the Texas Rangers to establish a statewide unit to deal with explosives.

But his efforts have run into bureaucratic resistance, according to knowledgeable officials.

“It is essential that all state troopers be skilled in the detection and interdiction of (devices), precursor chemicals and component parts,” McCraw said. Texas Rangers and DPS criminal investigation agents have training “to detect IEDs and their components in the course of their investigations, whether the targets are Mexican cartels or serial murderers,” he added.

“Deeper cooperation is absolutely essential,” insists McCaul, a former deputy state attorney general. “I think military and government lawyers are being too cautious. We want to fix that.”

stewart.powell@chron.com


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; bloodinthestreets; ied; immigration; kaboom; latinocartels; mexico; narcoterror; terrorism; warishere; waronterror; wot
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We also learned yesterday that all anyone crossing the border or caught here illegally has to do is say he's a 'dreamer' and he has to be released....White House says so.

KABOOOOOM! Coming to your hometown.....

1 posted on 07/30/2012 4:09:03 PM PDT by AuntB
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To: sickoflibs; Liz; blackie; janetgreen; DoughtyOne; Tennessee Nana; John Semmens; ...

“The domestic IED threat from both homegrown terrorists and global threat networks is real and presents a significant security challenge for the United States and our international partners,” Barbero warned a subcommittee of the House Committee on Homeland Security.”


2 posted on 07/30/2012 4:11:45 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: AuntB

Exaggerate the threat, scare people and before you know it we’ll have TSA checkpoints and military patrols across the USA. All for nothing except control (of us).


3 posted on 07/30/2012 4:14:45 PM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: AuntB

Exactly. If we don’t want stray dogs pooping all over our carpet any fool should know to close the stinkin’ door.


4 posted on 07/30/2012 4:15:11 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: AuntB
If American citizens go BOOM... well then... muslims should pack up and burn their own mosques to the ground before they leave. There will not be a safe harbor in all of America for muslims... if they attack us AGAIN on our shores. Why do you think that fdr interned the Japanese citizens living in America during WWII? Because they would not have been safe in any other place in America.

LLS

5 posted on 07/30/2012 4:15:28 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: AuntB

I am not making a direct threat myself... I am just rendering an opinion that I know to be fact.

LLS


6 posted on 07/30/2012 4:18:14 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: NewHampshireDuo

You hit the nail on the head. The majority of Americans will say they don’t mind being checked out by the military as long as it keeps them safe. We’ve become a nation of pansies.


7 posted on 07/30/2012 4:18:39 PM PDT by Terry Mross ( To kin and former friends: Do not attempt to contact me as long as you love obama.)
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To: AuntB

By all means keep the Mexican border open Barry.

After all they do jobs Americans won’t do, like gardening around office buildings. They may just want to plant something.


8 posted on 07/30/2012 4:20:47 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Fun for women ages 21 through 35)
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To: NewHampshireDuo

“Exaggerate the threat, scare people and before you know it we’ll have TSA checkpoints and military patrols across the USA. All for nothing except control (of us).”

You think the threat is exaggerated? Hell, we don’t have ‘checkpoints’ at the border! That’s what we need, and every one trying to come in gets bounced back! Hard! So they remember next time. “They” won’t need to control ‘US’...all the foreign terrorists/cartels are going to kill us first!

Do you understand they’ve been using IEDs along the border for quite some time? Do you understand that Mexico has the deadliest city in the WORLD...that more beheadings and murder of journalists happen in Mexico than anywhere? Do you understand that ANYONE can come over that border and stay here UNquestioned??

It’s up to US to see that these elected jack asses enforce the laws instead of forcing all of us into some TSA dance!
We need to vote out all of them that refuse to close that border, and that includes the traitors in the GOP..and that is MOST of ‘em.

Example..

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California Iraqi-Mexican crime ring busted, police say
Thu Aug 18 20:08:59 2011 · by Whats the Matter with Kansas? · 75 replies
Reuters ^ | August 18,2011 | Reporting by Tim Gaynor; Editing by Alex Dobuzinskis and Peter Bohan
LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Police in southern California have arrested 60 people and broken up an Iraqi criminal ring accused of selling drugs, machine guns and improvised bombs out of an immigrant social club, authorities said on Thursday. The swoop by the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration and local police targeted a network operating out of El Cajon, which is near San Diego and close to the border with Mexico.


9 posted on 07/30/2012 4:28:25 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: LibLieSlayer
Cowboys and moslimes...
10 posted on 07/30/2012 4:28:50 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: LibLieSlayer
There will not be a safe harbor in all of America for muslims.

You're joking, right?

I mean from 9/11 to the election of a guy named Baraq Hussein was only 7 years....

11 posted on 07/30/2012 4:32:40 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Chode
Cowboys and moslimes...

Bring it.
Let's get this over with.

12 posted on 07/30/2012 4:33:48 PM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party of NO! Nobama, No Way, No How!)
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To: Cindy; backhoe; JohnHuang2; B4Ranch; SwinneySwitch

ping

related

Mexican Cartels Using IEDs
KRGV ^ | 04/09/2010 | Will Ripley and Lisa Cortez

Posted on Fri Apr 9 10:46:22 2010 by SwinneySwitch
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2489897/posts?page=5


13 posted on 07/30/2012 4:33:59 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: grobdriver

I expect before very long we will soon learn what the citizens of Isreal live with every day....withOUT the security they insist on at their borders, etc!


14 posted on 07/30/2012 4:38:55 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: nascarnation
No, I am not kidding. Ask your neighbors and friends what they will think if School buses full of children blow up... or a grenade is thrown into a church... or the doors of a church are nailed shut while the muslim hoards burn the church to the ground... with the members roasting inside. How about shopping malls and beheadings in the mezzanines... impossible? All of these things are happening in Asia and Africa. Do you know how many Somali warriors that obama has imported? America will do what it didn't do on 9/11... it will play Cowboys and muslims.

LLS

15 posted on 07/30/2012 4:49:36 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: Chode

I’m sorry... I liked that and stole it!

LLS


16 posted on 07/30/2012 4:52:13 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: LibLieSlayer
i'd like to take credit for it, but can't... it's from a joke

Three strangers awaiting their flights strike up a conversation in the airport passenger lounge in Bozeman, Montana.  One is an American Indian passing through from Lame Deer.  Another is a Cowboy on his way to Billings for a livestock show.  And the third is a fundamentalist Arab student, newly arrived at Montana State University from the Middle East who is headed to a training conference in Detroit.

Their discussion drifts to their diverse cultures.  Soon, the two Westerners learn that the Arab is a devout, radical Muslim who supports Osama Bin Laden's Jihad, so the conversation falls into an uneasy lull. The cowboy leans back in his chair, crosses his boots on a magazine table and tips his big sweat-stained hat forward over his face.  The wind outside is  blowing tumbleweeds around, and the old windsock is flapping; but  still . . . no plane comes.

Finally, ! the American Indian clears his throat and softly, he speaks,  "At one time here, my people were many, but sadly, now we are few."

The Muslim student raises an eyebrow and leans forward, "Once my  people were few," he sneers, "and now we are many.  Why do you suppose that is?"

The Montana cowboy shifts his toothpick to one side of his mouth and from the darkness beneath his Stetson says in a drawl, "That's 'cause we ain't played Cowboys and Muslims yet, . . . but I do believe it's a-comin'."  

17 posted on 07/30/2012 4:56:09 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Terry Mross

But some Americans will take such actions as a threat and perhaps use their skills to defend America any means


18 posted on 07/30/2012 4:56:28 PM PDT by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: NewHampshireDuo
"Exaggerate the threat, scare people and before you know it we’ll have TSA checkpoints and military patrols across the USA. All for nothing except control (of us)."

Bingo. We've been hearing about this since the 1980s. A time when it was open season on any Americans wherever found. When I inquired back in those days with some unsavory characters I encountered overseas as to why we in America hadn't seen the kidnappings, shootings, and car bombs witnessed all across Europe, they told me it's because somebody may be a Palestinian terrorist, but he has an uncle Ahmed who owns a cab company in Milwaukee, and sends money back home. Somebody may be a Greek terrorist, but his brother Harlambos owns a chain of Greek restaurants in New Jersey. It's because America is where all the money and support comes from. It's where everybody's successful relative has moved to. Despite political and ideological differences, America was still seen as the land of opportunity. Nobody wanted to screw that up. Well, except for the screwy Mohamedans who wrecked it for everybody on 9/11. But that was a one trick pony. Nothing like it has been done since.
19 posted on 07/30/2012 4:58:05 PM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: NewHampshireDuo
Exaggerate the threat, scare people and before you know it we’ll have TSA checkpoints and military patrols across the USA. All for nothing except control (of us).

I thought the same thing. If one IED blew up on interstate 95, many people would clamor to have the Gov't take away their rights to free travel, and for DHS to monitor every move people make in an automobile.

20 posted on 07/30/2012 4:58:30 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: AuntB

People from terrorist nations...

Who would ever think IEDs could pop up here?


21 posted on 07/30/2012 4:58:51 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Remove all Democrats from the Republican party, and we won't have much Left, just a lot of Right.)
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To: AuntB

Imagine drone strikes against citizens being mislabeled as IED attacks. 0 regime gets to waste an effective opponent and then claim said opponent was a victim of terrorism and argue for greater control. Better yet, they can say the guy was in the act of planting a device that detonated prematurely and then use that propaganda to smear the surviving opposition and justify suppression. It’s totally tinfoil hat speculation stuff, but we do seem to live in strange times.


22 posted on 07/30/2012 5:02:42 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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To: nascarnation

That’s one of the best posts ever and regrettably, it really points out why America is already finished. If we want to carry on our American idea it’s probably going to have to be elsewhere.


23 posted on 07/30/2012 5:03:06 PM PDT by amishman
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To: AuntB
Until I read this article, I had heard nothing in the print, web, or broadcast news about "IED's" being a domestic occurrance. None. Please correct me if I'm missing something here...

Sounds to me like the Libtards cooking up a new Boogy-man to excuse more Fascist Police-State bullsh*t.

IMHO.

;-\

24 posted on 07/30/2012 5:04:05 PM PDT by Gargantua ("Dedicated to the removal of the Islamic Regime in America")
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To: LibLieSlayer

I agree.


25 posted on 07/30/2012 5:06:32 PM PDT by ryan71
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To: AuntB
In the United States, there were 24 terrorist attacks last year that killed 13 people and wounded 33, according to the report by NATO's Center of Excellence for Defense Against Terrorism.

then WHY were they NOT in the news??? every news story in America ALWAYS says NOT linked to it...

26 posted on 07/30/2012 5:07:57 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: amishman

I’m thinking somewhere in the Caribbean.

After Obamacare is in full force, the best younger doctors will leave and set up boutique medical clinics for wealthy Americans to come to.

I figure I can be a janitor.


27 posted on 07/30/2012 5:08:00 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: LibLieSlayer

Five years ago I would have agreed with you, and I still wish that was the case, but I just fear it wouldn’t happen that way now.


28 posted on 07/30/2012 5:10:29 PM PDT by amishman
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To: AuntB
Sometimes I stop and think about all of the Iraq and Afghanistan combat vets we have. Tens of thousands of them dealt with IED’s, etc. I think their skills might be extremely valuable, right here, fighting to either save this country or help raise it from the ruins.
29 posted on 07/30/2012 5:12:05 PM PDT by ryan71
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To: Chode

I assume those terrorist attacks were by Tea Party members.

/s/s/


30 posted on 07/30/2012 5:14:08 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Chode

Here’s the report, unfortunately they don’t break out detail for individual events

http://www.coedat.nato.int/publications/report/Annual%202011.pdf


31 posted on 07/30/2012 5:17:12 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: nascarnation
prolly cost a million dollars for it and it's useless... most likely by design
32 posted on 07/30/2012 5:27:26 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: AuntB

But if I find a muzzlem burying a bomb by my sidewalk and I report him, will they give me the Michele Bachmann izzlamophobe treatment?


33 posted on 07/30/2012 5:27:44 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: LibLieSlayer
Why do you think that fdr interned the Japanese citizens living in America during WWII? Because they would not have been safe in any other place in America.

Apparently they only wouldn't have been safe on the west coast, since those were the only Japanese Americans interned. For those in Hawaii and in the rest of the United States, there was no internment. Seriously, it's absurd to try to spin that as some sort of benevolent protective arrangement.

34 posted on 07/30/2012 5:29:32 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: AuntB

They only want to allow the army to help local law enforcement this time. Really, it’s just this one time. Honest injun...we won’t get involved local law enforcement again.

Who believes this crap?


35 posted on 07/30/2012 5:38:37 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (I just hate our government. All of them. Republican and Democrat.)
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To: amishman

It will in some parts of the country. When I think of deep blue states... I think of refugees fleeing a war zone. We may both be right.

LLS


36 posted on 07/30/2012 5:50:44 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: AuntB

This is a red herring.

“But legal restrictions on the activities of U.S. armed forces are slowing crucial collaboration, insiders complain.”

“You don’t understand! Unless we completely eliminate the Bill of Rights, we will be overrun with drug cartel child pornography terrorists who will zombiefy children with bath salts in Mosques before slaughtering them with Stand Your Ground assault rifles!”

IEDs? Seriously?

Think about this logically. If *anyone* was using IEDs in the US, who would be the targets of these IEDs?

1) School buses full of crippled orphans, or,

2) Heavily armed paramilitary police attempting to raid the home of some political opponent to the police state, who posted to some blog that “Obama is a poopy pants”?

These are the same people that think having armed combat drones patrolling our skies looking for (?) is a GREAT idea.

I am a lot less concerned about IEDs than that there are such people in our government acting as enemies of the people, trying to scare us all into living in a fishbowl.


37 posted on 07/30/2012 6:02:27 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: NewHampshireDuo

That is what this is all about.


38 posted on 07/30/2012 6:04:51 PM PDT by MCF
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To: AuntB

The politicans are setting us up for a war zone. Open borders and importing jihadists from Islamland... “Homegrown terrorists” are classified by Homeland inSecurity as conservatives.


39 posted on 07/30/2012 6:08:13 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

I did not mean it in absolute terms. Certainly security was in the forefront of their minds. I think that their safety was of major concern in the decision. That is what I have been taught but as with many of the things that I have been taught... it could be another distortion. My point is still valid.

LLS


40 posted on 07/30/2012 6:08:51 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: Chode

I pray that it never comes... the muslim prays that it does.

LLS


41 posted on 07/30/2012 6:10:23 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: amishman

I heard soon to be Senator Cruz speak today and he told of how his father... at he age of 18... having been jailed in Cuba, beaten and having his teeth kicked out... sewn a $100.00 bill into his underwear and floated to the USA. He said that his father told him, “You must protect America. When I was in Cuba and fighting for freedom, no matter how bad things were... I always knew that I could be free in America. If we lose America, there is no other place to go”.

I for one am willing to die for this republic... I do not want to... even Washington hated War... but I will answer the call if Lady Liberty asks.

LLS


42 posted on 07/30/2012 6:18:33 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: LibLieSlayer
Amen...
43 posted on 07/30/2012 6:19:06 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: AuntB
Of 880 terrorist attacks in North and South America last year — most in Mexico and Colombia

Open borders, amnesty and all the government freebies a terrorist could want. Welcome to AmeriKa.

44 posted on 07/30/2012 6:22:32 PM PDT by bgill
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To: NewHampshireDuo

There was a big order for bullet proof checkpoint booths a few months ago.


45 posted on 07/30/2012 6:24:14 PM PDT by bgill
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To: Chode

After 9/11 how many attacks did we have when an R was President?

Surely we would have heard it day in and day out


46 posted on 07/30/2012 6:41:37 PM PDT by WomBom ("I read Free Republic for the pictures")
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

The story is full of stupidity.

All the cops have to do is hire the veterans who worked with IED’s while in service.

Result:

Expertise in the law enforcement, jobs for veterans who otherwise would be searching for a decent job other than greeters at WalMart.


47 posted on 07/30/2012 6:49:24 PM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

The story is full of stupidity.

All the cops have to do is hire the veterans who worked with IED’s while in service.

Result:

Expertise in the law enforcement, jobs for veterans who otherwise would be searching for a decent job other than greeters at WalMart.


48 posted on 07/30/2012 6:49:45 PM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: WomBom
damn right...
49 posted on 07/30/2012 6:56:59 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: old curmudgeon

Real IEDs are not a threat, so they are not the point of the exercise. The point is more police and intelligence community powers, less Civil Rights, bigger budgets. They are arguing like public service unions.

“We never have everything we want. We want more! Too much is not enough!”


50 posted on 07/30/2012 7:59:13 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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