Skip to comments.Harry Truman grandson to visit Hiroshima
Posted on 07/30/2012 5:10:13 PM PDT by moonshot925
Clifton Truman Daniel will visit Japan from August 2, and attend ceremonies in Hiroshima August 6, and Nagasaki on August 9, according to Kyodo News as reported in the Nihon Keizai Shinbun.
It is the first time a member of the late presidents family will attend the ceremonies, and will holds a deep symbolic meaning for the Japanese.
Public papers from his time in office reveal a man with no regrets about using the A-bomb, but his grandson told Kyodo News that the late-president was horrified by the destructive power of the Bomb.
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“Public papers from his time in office reveal a man with no regrets about using the A-bomb”
Every single World War II veteran that I have ever talked to felt the same way.
The atomic bombs saved lives. Lots of lots of Japanese lives, and also many American lives were saved because of the bombs. I think of Hiroshima and Nagasaki as possibly the greatest humanitarian acts in the 20th century.
is he going to apologize?
Well put. Never forget they asked us to dance we simply obliged them
..hope he visits the USS Arizona too.......
Truman was also hirrified by the expected death toll of American soldiers when they invaded Japan.
Truman made the right decision.
“The atomic bombs saved lives. Lots of lots of Japanese lives, and also many American lives were saved because of the bombs. I think of Hiroshima and Nagasaki as possibly the greatest humanitarian acts in the 20th century.”
No, no, no. ~Everyone~ knows that Japan was beaten and it was only a matter of time before they threw in the towel.
/idiotic revisionist history drivel.
He should read “Flags of our Fathers” and “Unbroken” among other great books before he embarrasses both us and himself.
Many Japanese at the time felt the same way - they knew it would take a shock like an atom bomb or two to move the ruling military, who were determined to drag the entire nation down to destruction with them.
What was the projected casualty numbers for Operation Olympic? Something like 2.5 MILLION GIs? Not to mention the Japanese fatalities, and the fanatic civilian home guard.
If the militarists in Japan had the bomb instead, do you think that years later they’d be beating themselves up over nuking the U.S.? I doubt it.
My dad was in Navy boot camp in San Diego when the atomic bombs were dropped. Later, he was assigned to a destroyer in the Pacific theater and involved in general post-war mopping-up efforts.
In the 1990s he and mom went to Japan and visited Hirohsima and Nagasaki. While there he asked one of the guides, I think it was in Hiroshima, where the Mitsubishi plant which built the torpedoes used at Pearl Harbor had been located. The guide was definitely taken aback by the request but did find the location. Dad said the facility had been obliterated in the blast.
Paybacks are a bitch.
I know my dad had no regrets about it. After coming out of the Battle of the Bulge alive, he would have ended up in Japan, and probably dead, if that bomb hadn’t ended the war. So if this guy apologizes, let’s see if he has the nerve to also apologize for the fact that millions of WWII troops LIVED.
The torpedoes were mfg in Nagasaki. I went to Hiroshima in the 80s and was surprised at how compact the place was.
Lizzie Warren is Japanese......when it’s to her benefit.
American, I meant to say.
The Potsdam Declaration of July 26, 1945 promised "prompt and utter destruction" if Japan refused to surrender.
The Japanese refused and we bombed Hiroshima eleven days later. We waited an additional three days before bombing Nagasaki.
Conservative estimates for an invasion of Japan were that at least half a million Allied deaths and five to ten million Japanese deaths. The bombs saved MILLIONS of lives on both sides.
I read an interesting series of facts about ally activity in Japan just prior to the dropping of the two Atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
In the months prior to the use of the atom bombs, the U. S. had fire-bombed between 50 and 100 cities, and had destroyed at least half of each city from the air.
Despite this, the Japanese command refused to surrender. They were determined to fight it out to the last man woman and child.
Yes, the U. S. did destroy Hiroshima and Nagasaki. And many Japanese are alive today because of it. Many Americans are too.
I’m not happy we had to use the bomb. We did. It’s done with. I’m not second guessing it now.
Other limp wristed ankle biters can go ‘me oh my, woe is me’ all they like. And I’ll just ignore them.
500,000 Purple Hearts were manufactured in anticipation of the invasion of Japan. These Purple Hearts were used in Korea, Vietnam, Gulf War I, Afghanistan, Iraq and countless other conflicts -- we still have over 100,000 left.
Thanks for the correction; Nagasaki it is.
Firebombing of Japan
Don’t be confused when she says she has a little Japanese in her....
We should remember that even after the first bomb, many Japs still wanted to fight on and there were a large amou.t of troops still in China
My uncle was headed over for the big invasion but they dropped the bombs instead. They had him go over and help cleanup instead of invade. I got a live uncle and an Arisaka with bayonet, plus a sword, instead of a dead or wounded uncle.
I probably would not be here, or anywhere, if Truman had not dropped the bombs and ended the war.
My Dad was in the second wave of US forces that were to attack Japan. Although the second wave’s mortality prediction was a lot lower than the first, I recall that it exceeded 50%.
Thanks, President Truman.
Imagine that Truman had decided not to use the bomb, then imagine what the mothers of the 2,500,000 American casulties would do when they found out that we had a weapon that would have ended the war but that Truman decided not to use it because, well, that weapon is just too mean spirited.
One of my favorite books as a teen-ager was a collection of interviews with Harry Truman by writer Merle Miller. If I recall the text correctly, Truman responded to bombing critics by saying he had been waiting patiently for an apology for Pearl Harbor that never came.
In addition, consider the response he gave to David Susskind’s proposal to film Truman on a tour of Hiroshima. He said he would go, but that he wouldn’t “kiss their (Japanese) ass.”
These comments were uttered around 1961 so Truman’s views on the bombing may have changed before his death a decade later.
But I doubt it.
It wasn't that big a bomb, after all, and after Nagasaki we had nothing. The whole thing was a bluff, but it worked.
I wasn't really in doubt about his attitude--he had favored using the bomb in the Vietnam War.
I don't recall his exact words, but they were something to the effect of "It was the right thing to do and he hoped if there were similar circumstances, we would unhesitatingly do it again.
Or something to that effect. He got in a few local newspapers and got some hate mail and phone calls for it. The banner on the story said something to the effect of "Retired Naval Officer calls Hiroshima and Nagasaki "a good thing"
God bless my dad. Those negative comments didn't bother him a bit. He was not at all the kind to say they could kiss his ass for all he cared, but I know that is exactly what he felt.
” Hey,Clifton...remember one thing,any apology you might make while you’re there is made”
Anyone know if Clifton is an Obamabot?
We should also remember that even after the second bomb, many Japs still wanted to fight on. The largest air raid of WWII was flown against Japan on 14 August 1945, over 2000 aircraft.
Clifton Daniel is today a Chicago Democrat with an insignificant administrative sinecure in the HQ of the City Colleges of Chicago,a network of five or six city-run community colleges. The colleges, and especially the HQ office, are patronage hives for connected third and fourth tier Chicago Democrats. He just might apologize.
They absolutely didn’t care how many men, women, or children. It was all about saving their sorry hides. Civilians were being trained to fight the invasion. American casualties alone were upwardly estimated at a million.
The irony is, Truman didn’t even know about the Manhattan Project until the death of FDR. A few months later, he drops the bomb and the terrible war finally comes to an end.
The Japanese text on the reverse side of the leaflet carried the following warning:
"Read this carefully as it may save your life or the life of a relative or friend. In the next few days, some or all of the cities named on the reverse side will be destroyed by American bombs. These cities contain military installations and workshops or factories which produce military goods. We are determined to destroy all of the tools of the military clique which they are using to prolong this useless war. But, unfortunately, bombs have no eyes. So, in accordance with America's humanitarian policies, the American Air Force, which does not wish to injure innocent people, now gives you warning to evacuate the cities named and save your lives. America is not fighting the Japanese people but is fighting the military clique which has enslaved the Japanese people. The peace which America will bring will free the people from the oppression of the military clique and mean the emergence of a new and better Japan. You can restore peace by demanding new and good leaders who will end the war. We cannot promise that only these cities will be among those attacked but some or all of them will be, so heed this warning and evacuate these cities immediately."
Another plutonium core was completed and ready to be shipped to Tinian on 13 August 1945.
There were three Model 1561 "Fat Man" bomb cases on Tinian assembled and ready to go on 15 August 1945.
Major General Leslie Groves, military director of the Manhattan Project, sent a memorandum to General of the Army George Marshall, Army Chief of Staff, in which he wrote that "the next bomb . . should be ready for delivery on the first suitable weather after 17 or 18 August."
Tibbets was chosen to drop the third bomb and this was the target list submitted to Secretary of War Henry Stimson on 13 August 1945:
Groves estimated that 3-4 bombs could be produced a month starting in September 1945.
Downfall: The End of the Imperial Japanese Empire by Richard B. Frank