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Obama team sees promise in 3rd party candidacies
Associated Press ^ | 07/31/2012 | Jim Kuhnhenn

Posted on 07/31/2012 12:45:01 PM PDT by nhwingut

WASHINGTON (AP) - President Barack Obama's re-election effort is paying close attention to two candidates mounting third-party campaigns for the presidency, believing they could draw votes from Republican rival Mitt Romney and help Obama win a few tightly contested states.

One candidate is Virgil Goode, a former conservative Virginia congressman who is running as a member of the Constitution Party. The other is Gary Johnson, a former two-term Republican governor of New Mexico who is the Libertarian Party's presidential nominee.

Obama's team has scenarios whereby Obama can win states like Virginia and Colorado with less than 50 percent of the vote, with an assist from Goode and Johnson.

(Excerpt) Read more at apnews.excite.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: New Mexico
KEYWORDS: garyjohnson; libertarians; medicalmarijuana; newmexico; obama; rockymountainhigh; romney; thirdparties; virgilgoode

1 posted on 07/31/2012 12:45:12 PM PDT by nhwingut
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To: nhwingut

Desperation time for Obami. The tide is turning.


2 posted on 07/31/2012 12:51:04 PM PDT by frogjerk (OBAMA NOV 2012 = HORSEMEAT)
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To: nhwingut

Desperation time for Obami. The tide is turning.


3 posted on 07/31/2012 12:51:20 PM PDT by frogjerk (OBAMA NOV 2012 = HORSEMEAT)
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To: nhwingut

I think 0bama is toast. 0bama is struggling in Wisconsin, Minnesota, Michigan and Connecticut - I don’t think Goode or Johnson will save him. In fact, one poll showed Johnson actually hurting 0bama in New Mexico. If Romney gets a good running mate with bona fide conservative credentials, G-S-M.


4 posted on 07/31/2012 12:51:37 PM PDT by Perdogg (Let's leave reading things in the Constitution that aren't there to liberals and Dems)
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To: nhwingut
Yep, all them "Principled Conservatives" can throw the election to Obama and send "a strong message to the GOP".

A genuine moronic twofer!

5 posted on 07/31/2012 12:52:23 PM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: nhwingut

meh


6 posted on 07/31/2012 12:55:59 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: nhwingut

Of course he does. Why bother to win 51% when 34% will do?


7 posted on 07/31/2012 12:56:53 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (As long a hundred of us remain alive we will never on any condition be brought under Obama's rule.)
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To: nhwingut

He needs another Ross Perot and to paraphrase Rick Pitino, he’s not working through that door.


8 posted on 07/31/2012 12:58:02 PM PDT by AU72
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To: Redleg Duke

Time for the MittWits to flop sweat as we all know that lefty Mitt will have a tough time closing the deal with Conservatives...FUBO & FUMR!


9 posted on 07/31/2012 12:58:02 PM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: nhwingut

Hear that 3rd Party voters-Obama is counting on you, don’t let him down!


10 posted on 07/31/2012 12:59:11 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Redleg Duke

And this imbecile kenyan used his trusted teleprompter when he said it. There’s a promise with 3rd parties the same way a third testicle shows promise.


11 posted on 07/31/2012 1:02:49 PM PDT by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: nhwingut

SOUND FAMILIAR TO ANYONE?


12 posted on 07/31/2012 1:09:11 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Poor Barack.If He's Reelected,Think Of The Mess He'll Inherit!)
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To: nhwingut
The Constitution and Libertarian parties got a combined 0.5% of the vote in 2008, with a similarly weak GOP candidate as their foil.

They did well, by their standards, in VA and CO with about 1%.

I highly doubt that VA and CO will be split 49.5%-49.5%.

13 posted on 07/31/2012 1:09:27 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: nhwingut

paging Ralph Nader


14 posted on 07/31/2012 1:14:30 PM PDT by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Why bother to win 51% when 34% will do?

In 2000,W won New Hampshire (4 Electoral votes) by a couple of thousand votes.If he had lost NH,it would be "former President algore" today.

So never mind 51-34....how about 49.6%---49.58%----0.86% (for the "principled conservative")???

15 posted on 07/31/2012 1:16:17 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Poor Barack.If He's Reelected,Think Of The Mess He'll Inherit!)
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To: showme_the_Glory

Gary Johnson tends to lean left on many social/cultural issues (pro choom choom, pro gay anal sex). He could rake some votes from Obama.


16 posted on 07/31/2012 1:18:20 PM PDT by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else)
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To: nhwingut

This is why we need “instant runoff”.

Unfortunately neither of the 2 main parties want it, since it empowers 3rd party candidates....

We had it for local races in Tacoma, WA up til 2 yrs ago, but in our voter guide the GOPe party hack recommended that we vote to end it, since if violated “one person, one vote”, which is a ridiculous lie.

Last I heard it was also used for CA bay area local elections.


17 posted on 07/31/2012 1:19:05 PM PDT by fred42 ("Get your facts first, then you can distort 'em as much as you need." - Mark Twain)
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To: nhwingut

Busy selling hope... I can smell his fear.


18 posted on 07/31/2012 1:19:49 PM PDT by Gator113 (***YOU GAVE it to Obama. I would have voted for NEWT.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: nhwingut

No surpise to anyone on this forum, but the AP reporter who wrote this story is a hopeless hack for the Obama way. His story from Virginia where Obama said, “You didn’t build that” focused entirely on Romney’s tax returns. When I tweeted the reporter asking about the Obama quote, he deleted it immediately. He writes what the Obama campaign wants him to write.


19 posted on 07/31/2012 1:37:09 PM PDT by vekzen
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To: nhwingut

Unfortunately for Gary Johnson, the Constitution does not include “must have climbed to the top of Mt. Everest” among the prerequisites for becoming President...or he’d be a shoo-in.


20 posted on 07/31/2012 1:41:40 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: nhwingut

Obama is looking for Perot. The people voting for Goode and Johnson are probably not people who would ever vote for Romney, even if it means another four years of Obama, and it might, especially if there aren’t enough conservatives and libertarians to overcome the dead vote. I figure Johnson is going to vote for Obama, and Goode doesn’t know who he is going to vote for, but until that time, they can represent something, whatever it is.


21 posted on 07/31/2012 1:46:31 PM PDT by pallis
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To: nhwingut
3rd Party? Then Obama won't mind me making this call again:

Run, Ralph, Run!

You saved us in 2000, you can do it again in 2012.

22 posted on 07/31/2012 1:48:07 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Recycled Olympic tagline Shut up, Bob Costas. Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up!)
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To: nhwingut

He’s dead meat politically, and he knows it. The media may lie to us, but you can bet he’s getting the straight scoop.

I may not like Romney, but watching Obama get Cartered on Inauguration Day is going to be sweet.

Then on to other problems...


23 posted on 07/31/2012 1:49:33 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Remove all Democrats from the Republican party, and we won't have much Left, just a lot of Right.)
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To: nhwingut

The Democrat convention boost, is going to be something like a dead cat bounce. That ought to give Obama a fur-ball.


24 posted on 07/31/2012 1:50:46 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Remove all Democrats from the Republican party, and we won't have much Left, just a lot of Right.)
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To: nhwingut

Well, given some of the attitudes here, slipping a few millions to the Constitution Party, Libertarians, etc., might be a good move, esp. if you could target it on the battleground states.


25 posted on 07/31/2012 1:55:18 PM PDT by Little Ray (AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Yep. I’m sure our very own spamming posse will be right along soon to agree with obowelmovement. No wait. They’re too busy spamming the Romney (and many non-romney) threads.


26 posted on 07/31/2012 1:56:30 PM PDT by PA Engineer ("We're not programs, Gerty, We're People")
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To: PA Engineer

Bill Clinton has been hauled out of the cold to become an important player in the convention. Could it be that Hillary will be called in as VP?


27 posted on 07/31/2012 2:00:34 PM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: nhwingut

Nothing says “Dem win” like a Clintonian plurality.

Having said that, these two fringe candidates are completely unknown to a very high percentage of voters.

John Anderson and Perot were widely known and had a lot of campaign money.


28 posted on 07/31/2012 2:01:05 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: nhwingut

Conservatives can play “hope there’s a third party to dilute their vote”, too.

Go Big Green! Go Jill Stein! (She won’t steal too many votes from the GOP, I betcha).


29 posted on 07/31/2012 2:10:44 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: nhwingut

That only works if any or all of those candidates gets enough votes to make a difference.


30 posted on 07/31/2012 2:26:00 PM PDT by RichInOC (Palin 2012: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: Oldexpat

I was wondering about that too.


31 posted on 07/31/2012 2:31:14 PM PDT by PA Engineer ("We're not programs, Gerty, We're People")
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To: nhwingut

This time around, a 3rd party isn’t going to be much help, because none of the 3rd party candidates have much money or charisma.


32 posted on 07/31/2012 2:39:25 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: PA Engineer
I was wondering about that too.

I have seen pictures of Hillary recently. They look as if she is taking better care of herself.

33 posted on 07/31/2012 3:16:12 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Redleg Duke

When did you stop beating your live-in boyfriend ~


34 posted on 07/31/2012 3:22:16 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Perdogg

With Virgil Goode throwing in with the Greens and making his campaign platform wasting huge amounts of money on “high speed rail” in Virginia I’m not sure he will help Obama there either. That’s not exactly a conservative platform and given their failure in places they have been tried it doesn’t indicate a platform of common sense or fiscal responsiblity...with debt and wasteful spending being big issues in this campaign, he certainly is not qualified to tackle them by making his commitment to wasteful spending such a huge campaign issue.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTJamrDkjN0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQG4qCSP3xI

On the same channel you will find videos supportive of Medea Benjamin and Code Pink.


35 posted on 07/31/2012 3:34:56 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: PA Engineer
The truce envisions that the Mittbots will stick to the issues and quit trying to harrass or criticize real Conservatives.

There are, of course, other places you can play and kvetch about your betters ~ go to DU ~ there you'll find your kind of love.

36 posted on 07/31/2012 3:37:41 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
The truce envisions that the Mittbots will stick to the issues and quit trying to harrass or criticize real Conservatives.

There are, of course, other places you can play and kvetch about your betters ~ go to DU ~ there you'll find your kind of love.


WTF. Are you going to shoot up a theatre or something?
37 posted on 07/31/2012 5:21:49 PM PDT by PA Engineer ("We're not programs, Gerty, We're People")
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To: PA Engineer

Why are you thinking such things about others?


38 posted on 07/31/2012 7:00:31 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Why are you thinking such things about others?

Because lately your posts are all over the place. You are beginning to remind me of McDonalds.
39 posted on 07/31/2012 7:26:14 PM PDT by PA Engineer ("We're not programs, Gerty, We're People")
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To: PA Engineer
My posts are extremely consistent. They have vision. It's like this, the Democrats quite regularly come up with bad candidates. Therefore I don't vote for them. Then this year the GOP-e did a palace coup, broke the coalition, and are hell bent for election to run a bad candidate.

He's bad on all the issues the Democrats' candidate is bad on. So, there's no reason to vote for him either ~ and he won't tell us what it is he has in mind ~ just the same old vague 'hope and change' baloney we've all come to distrust.

The fact you can't see how bad the GOP-e candidate really is isn't my fault. It's yours.

40 posted on 08/01/2012 3:46:24 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
"When did you stop beating your live-in boyfriend ~"

Ah, so anyone who doesn't agree with you is an abusive homosexual, eh?

How utterly liberal of you! Or, do you prefer "progressive"?

Say "Hi!" to all of your buds at DU for me! Tell them I will be looking forward to putting them all on Suicide Watch, along with you in early November.

41 posted on 08/01/2012 5:20:53 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: Redleg Duke

/s


42 posted on 08/01/2012 6:38:43 AM PDT by muawiyah
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