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Mother sues police over son's accidental shooting
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | July 31, 2012

Posted on 07/31/2012 3:12:14 PM PDT by artichokegrower

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — The mother of a parolee who accidentally shot himself to death during a gunbattle with San Francisco police is suing the city for failing to give him immediate medical care.

The San Francisco Chronicle (http://bit.ly/Qewm5g ) says 19-year-old Kenneth Wade Harding didn't pay a Muni light-rail fare and was running when his gun fired and the bullet pierced his neck last July.

He was trying to shoot at officers at the time.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: California
KEYWORDS: kennethharding; sanfrancisco
Maybe society could sue his mom for producing such a retrograde dirt bag.
1 posted on 07/31/2012 3:12:19 PM PDT by artichokegrower
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To: artichokegrower

When trying to shoot someone, I would suggest not aiming through yourself.


2 posted on 07/31/2012 3:14:26 PM PDT by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." -- M. O'Neal, USMC)
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To: artichokegrower

If you’re trying to shoot the cops who are chasing your and you shoot yourself instead...you’re a really bad shot.


3 posted on 07/31/2012 3:14:26 PM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?)...R.I.P.)
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To: artichokegrower

well, he’ll probably have a jury of his peers give him some $.

it IS San Francisco.


4 posted on 07/31/2012 3:14:58 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: artichokegrower

Guy was a truly bad guy through and through(sorry for the pun,....not really). Don’t feel bad that he’s gone, just sorrow the mother lost a son...who was...again...heinous and probably not redeemable.

But, I don’t like that cops don’t render aid or allow aid to those who are injured.


5 posted on 07/31/2012 3:18:41 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: artichokegrower

Why would you fire at police over a muni ticket? There’s something deeper there.


6 posted on 07/31/2012 3:22:12 PM PDT by GOPPachyderm
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To: artichokegrower
Another one of Osama Obama’s people...one of the many passengers in the cart...thinking that she's won the lottery.Why doesn't she sue Exxon/Mobil as well? After all,it was one of *their* billboards that distracted him while aiming,thus causing him to hit someone other than the cop.
7 posted on 07/31/2012 3:24:17 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Poor Barack.If He's Reelected,Think Of The Mess He'll Inherit!)
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To: GOPPachyderm

Ah, a convicted child rapist. Using the muni ... huh, the Huber law?

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2011/07/18/suspect-shot-dead-by-sf-police-was-convicted-child-rapist/


8 posted on 07/31/2012 3:24:34 PM PDT by GOPPachyderm
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To: Vendome

Don’t know enough of the story to guess what kind of aid the cops should have given. Certainly wouldn’t want any of them to risk exposure to his blood, so that rules out CPR or direct contact first aid. And since cops aren’t necessarily tasked with giving first aid - especially to someone trying to kill them - I don’t know what else to say. I’m willing to bet they called for an ambulance; why isn’t that enough? And your contention that they don’t “allow aid” to those who are injured doesn’t have the ring of truth.

Imagine if they had touched him in an effort to give aid, and he’d died anyway. Many - would that include you? - would be charging them with murdering him after shooting him, and the lawsuit would proceed anyway.

Damned if they do, damned if they don’t. But that’s what many citizens seem to want cops to be.


9 posted on 07/31/2012 3:26:06 PM PDT by DPMD
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To: artichokegrower
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — The mother of a parolee who accidentally shot himself to death during a gunbattle with San Francisco police is suing the city for failing to give him immediate medical care.

That mother was also behind this effort:

Protesters Plan to Shut Down (San Francisco) Muni Service on Monday

A random group called the Humanists for Revolutionary Socialism is backing Monday's protest, dubbed "Kenneth Harding Jr. Transit Shut Down Day" and blames Muni's policies for Harding's death.

She's also announced plans to repeat this every year on the anniversary of her son's death. Nothing works to reinforce how much of a [insert choice word here] her son was like being one herself.

10 posted on 07/31/2012 3:32:16 PM PDT by Lonely Bull
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To: artichokegrower

lawsuit lottery needs to end


11 posted on 07/31/2012 3:34:43 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: artichokegrower
Mother of Kenneth Harding Sues SFPD Over Son Accidentally Shooting Himself

kenneth-harding-jr-by-washington-dept-of-corrections.jpg Denika Chatman, the mother of parolee Kenneth Harding — who died during a chase with San Francisco police last year in which he accidentally shot himself in the neck while apparently attempting to shoot at the cops chasing him — has now filed a federal civil rights lawsuit claiming that the city failed to provide immediate medical care to her son as he lay dying in the street. The 19-year-old Harding was fleeing police at the time because he was suspected of fare evasion on Muni, and he was on parole at the time for pimping a 14-year-old girl in the Seattle area. He was also a person of interest in the murder of a 19-year-old woman last year in Seattle.


12 posted on 07/31/2012 3:35:22 PM PDT by dennisw (Government be yo mamma - Re-elect Barack Obama)
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To: artichokegrower

Ummm......just no. 100 percent with the officers on this one.


13 posted on 07/31/2012 3:36:36 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: artichokegrower

Wow her lawyer must be really bad. Good lawyer would go after the gun manufacturer. /sarc


14 posted on 07/31/2012 3:37:37 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: artichokegrower

Agreed. All these criminals should be sued along with their families for raising murderers and pedophiles. Maybe then parents will pay more attention to what is going on in the lives of their children.

There is a scientific correlation between parental abuse and those who go on to commit crimes.


15 posted on 07/31/2012 3:40:39 PM PDT by formosa (Formosa)
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To: GOPPachyderm

Deeper == convicted felon with concealed firearm on parole, at the very least. Automatic violation of parole, going back to prison immediately.


16 posted on 07/31/2012 3:41:03 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: artichokegrower

Of course. It’s not her little angel’s fault and it’s not her fault for raising a dirtbag. It must be the police’s fault.


17 posted on 07/31/2012 3:42:36 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Vendome
That happened in the first Anaheim shooting week before last. Guy was going down ~ and on the way down they shot him in the head too, and then he continued to twitch. The cops didn't tend to him for quite some time and then only to handcuff him.

Kind of hard ~ sort of thing you'd expect with somebody else's police force.

He was also unarmed.

I think the idea is that California is being totally undermined by the sort of ideas that guide police in Latin countries.

18 posted on 07/31/2012 3:56:04 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: DPMD
Most states have laws that hold harmless those who give aid under any circumstances.

Seriously, we have numerous videos of this behavior showing up recently of cops just hanging around while the perp bleeds out.

That is really, really crude stuff.

19 posted on 07/31/2012 3:59:43 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: GOPPachyderm
Washington state seems to have just turned him loose to wander off to California.

This dude was convicted of armed robbery first and then child rape.

THERE'S NO REASON HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN OUT OF JAIL!

20 posted on 07/31/2012 4:01:28 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Can we give his “moms” a gun and give her a 10 second head start???


21 posted on 07/31/2012 4:29:27 PM PDT by Fred911 (YOU GET WHAT YOU ACCEPT)
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To: muawiyah

Can we give his “moms” a gun and give her a 10 second head start???


22 posted on 07/31/2012 4:31:27 PM PDT by Fred911 (YOU GET WHAT YOU ACCEPT)
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To: artichokegrower

But considering Californicate and its judicial system, there is a good chance that mom will win.


23 posted on 07/31/2012 4:41:12 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Skittle pooping unicorns are more common than progressives with honor & integrity.)
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To: muawiyah
That sex act took place at Harding’s house while he was under home detention for an armed robbery.

That would be a fair punishment only as long as his new home is longer than it is wide, and located just a few feet below the soil level.

What country in the world would hate its law-abiding citizens so much that it puts an armed robber under house arrest? That guy was just moments away from becoming a murderer.

What's happening here is that the most violent part of the society is successfully changing de-facto laws as it suits them, by the threat of riots. Lacking proper tools of punishment (any caliber will do,) the police is just feeding the revolving door of the prison. Criminals are rendered safe only when they kill themselves, or when their associates do this public service. Even in jail violent criminals continue their life of crime, in part by terrorizing small-time, nonviolent offenders - who have nowhere to go. This society lost their will to live since it no longer wants to protect itself from members who are unfit to exist.

24 posted on 07/31/2012 4:48:42 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: Lonely Bull

exactly why we need tort reform.

a parolee and carrying a gun? shouldn’t have had it in the first place. honest law-abiding citizens have a hard enough time to be able to carry a firearm.

lawyers that would bring this to court should be tarred and feathered and lose their license. tired of listening to all these liars (opps, should have typed lawyers), in commercials trying to drum up business with their ambulance chasing ads.

i am not a real big fan of the police, but there are some good ones. the perp got what he deserved. why should anyone pay for his medical expenses and then pay 50,000 a year to incarcerate him again?

blessings, bobo


25 posted on 07/31/2012 5:16:34 PM PDT by bobo1
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To: muawiyah

Disgusting.....


26 posted on 07/31/2012 5:32:02 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: DPMD

See there....


27 posted on 07/31/2012 5:38:04 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: bobo1
Tort fix #1: Courts shall have the power to seize no more than $100 without legislative approval of a higher fine. Just shut the door on all of it. I'm sure it'll be an emotional battle in the legislature to put a value on a human life while at the same time approving wholesale destruction of human life in the abortion mill, but hey, you loot the taxypayers for your feathered pensions and health care, you might as well make SOME tough calls.

Tort fix #2: Any seizure of more than $1,000,000 requires legislative approval of the award. The ultimate appeals process - have legislators approve these incredibly high judgments.

Personally, I prefer fix #1. Cap it from the start, then go through and assign limits based upon actual legislated law rather than whatever the court has decided over the years can be used as the excuse for a lawsuit.

28 posted on 07/31/2012 6:17:40 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: kingu

i agree with one exception.

i would fine lawyers for bringing spurious cases to court, and i would allow the winner to collect legal fees from those that bring these cases to court.

blessings, bobo


29 posted on 07/31/2012 6:23:15 PM PDT by bobo1
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To: artichokegrower
Here is some footage of the shooting aftermath
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTbJEy7sj_4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LXmpTq7Dlg

The baby-mama is rolling for the ghetto lotto.

30 posted on 07/31/2012 10:52:03 PM PDT by Polynikes (Hakkaa Palle)
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To: muawiyah

I think maybe you don’t know lawyers very well. A good samaritan law won’t prevent a lawsuit from going forward if the contention also exists that the good samaritan was the primary cause of death, to wit: bullets from his gun.

What, by the way, is really crude stuff?


31 posted on 08/01/2012 8:44:33 AM PDT by DPMD
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To: DPMD
Walking around eating donuts while a guy bleeds out.

BTW, you can sue anyone about anything you want at any time in any court.

There are lawyers who are happy to do so. Most of them would prefer to win so sometimes they'll talk you out of it ~ 'cause they don't see a chance for a fee

32 posted on 08/01/2012 8:53:45 AM PDT by muawiyah
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