Skip to comments.Mother sues police over son's accidental shooting
Posted on 07/31/2012 3:12:14 PM PDT by artichokegrower
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) The mother of a parolee who accidentally shot himself to death during a gunbattle with San Francisco police is suing the city for failing to give him immediate medical care.
The San Francisco Chronicle (http://bit.ly/Qewm5g ) says 19-year-old Kenneth Wade Harding didn't pay a Muni light-rail fare and was running when his gun fired and the bullet pierced his neck last July.
He was trying to shoot at officers at the time.
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When trying to shoot someone, I would suggest not aiming through yourself.
If you’re trying to shoot the cops who are chasing your and you shoot yourself instead...you’re a really bad shot.
well, he’ll probably have a jury of his peers give him some $.
it IS San Francisco.
Guy was a truly bad guy through and through(sorry for the pun,....not really). Don’t feel bad that he’s gone, just sorrow the mother lost a son...who was...again...heinous and probably not redeemable.
But, I don’t like that cops don’t render aid or allow aid to those who are injured.
Why would you fire at police over a muni ticket? There’s something deeper there.
Ah, a convicted child rapist. Using the muni ... huh, the Huber law?
Don’t know enough of the story to guess what kind of aid the cops should have given. Certainly wouldn’t want any of them to risk exposure to his blood, so that rules out CPR or direct contact first aid. And since cops aren’t necessarily tasked with giving first aid - especially to someone trying to kill them - I don’t know what else to say. I’m willing to bet they called for an ambulance; why isn’t that enough? And your contention that they don’t “allow aid” to those who are injured doesn’t have the ring of truth.
Imagine if they had touched him in an effort to give aid, and he’d died anyway. Many - would that include you? - would be charging them with murdering him after shooting him, and the lawsuit would proceed anyway.
Damned if they do, damned if they don’t. But that’s what many citizens seem to want cops to be.
That mother was also behind this effort:
A random group called the Humanists for Revolutionary Socialism is backing Monday's protest, dubbed "Kenneth Harding Jr. Transit Shut Down Day" and blames Muni's policies for Harding's death.
She's also announced plans to repeat this every year on the anniversary of her son's death. Nothing works to reinforce how much of a [insert choice word here] her son was like being one herself.
lawsuit lottery needs to end
Denika Chatman, the mother of parolee Kenneth Harding who died during a chase with San Francisco police last year in which he accidentally shot himself in the neck while apparently attempting to shoot at the cops chasing him has now filed a federal civil rights lawsuit claiming that the city failed to provide immediate medical care to her son as he lay dying in the street. The 19-year-old Harding was fleeing police at the time because he was suspected of fare evasion on Muni, and he was on parole at the time for pimping a 14-year-old girl in the Seattle area. He was also a person of interest in the murder of a 19-year-old woman last year in Seattle.
Ummm......just no. 100 percent with the officers on this one.
Wow her lawyer must be really bad. Good lawyer would go after the gun manufacturer. /sarc
Agreed. All these criminals should be sued along with their families for raising murderers and pedophiles. Maybe then parents will pay more attention to what is going on in the lives of their children.
There is a scientific correlation between parental abuse and those who go on to commit crimes.
Deeper == convicted felon with concealed firearm on parole, at the very least. Automatic violation of parole, going back to prison immediately.
Of course. It’s not her little angel’s fault and it’s not her fault for raising a dirtbag. It must be the police’s fault.
Kind of hard ~ sort of thing you'd expect with somebody else's police force.
He was also unarmed.
I think the idea is that California is being totally undermined by the sort of ideas that guide police in Latin countries.
Seriously, we have numerous videos of this behavior showing up recently of cops just hanging around while the perp bleeds out.
That is really, really crude stuff.
This dude was convicted of armed robbery first and then child rape.
THERE'S NO REASON HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN OUT OF JAIL!
Can we give his “moms” a gun and give her a 10 second head start???
Can we give his “moms” a gun and give her a 10 second head start???
But considering Californicate and its judicial system, there is a good chance that mom will win.
That would be a fair punishment only as long as his new home is longer than it is wide, and located just a few feet below the soil level.
What country in the world would hate its law-abiding citizens so much that it puts an armed robber under house arrest? That guy was just moments away from becoming a murderer.
What's happening here is that the most violent part of the society is successfully changing de-facto laws as it suits them, by the threat of riots. Lacking proper tools of punishment (any caliber will do,) the police is just feeding the revolving door of the prison. Criminals are rendered safe only when they kill themselves, or when their associates do this public service. Even in jail violent criminals continue their life of crime, in part by terrorizing small-time, nonviolent offenders - who have nowhere to go. This society lost their will to live since it no longer wants to protect itself from members who are unfit to exist.
exactly why we need tort reform.
a parolee and carrying a gun? shouldn’t have had it in the first place. honest law-abiding citizens have a hard enough time to be able to carry a firearm.
lawyers that would bring this to court should be tarred and feathered and lose their license. tired of listening to all these liars (opps, should have typed lawyers), in commercials trying to drum up business with their ambulance chasing ads.
i am not a real big fan of the police, but there are some good ones. the perp got what he deserved. why should anyone pay for his medical expenses and then pay 50,000 a year to incarcerate him again?
Tort fix #2: Any seizure of more than $1,000,000 requires legislative approval of the award. The ultimate appeals process - have legislators approve these incredibly high judgments.
Personally, I prefer fix #1. Cap it from the start, then go through and assign limits based upon actual legislated law rather than whatever the court has decided over the years can be used as the excuse for a lawsuit.
i agree with one exception.
i would fine lawyers for bringing spurious cases to court, and i would allow the winner to collect legal fees from those that bring these cases to court.
The baby-mama is rolling for the ghetto lotto.
I think maybe you don’t know lawyers very well. A good samaritan law won’t prevent a lawsuit from going forward if the contention also exists that the good samaritan was the primary cause of death, to wit: bullets from his gun.
What, by the way, is really crude stuff?
BTW, you can sue anyone about anything you want at any time in any court.
There are lawyers who are happy to do so. Most of them would prefer to win so sometimes they'll talk you out of it ~ 'cause they don't see a chance for a fee