Skip to comments.Cautionary Tale: India Goes Dark
Posted on 07/31/2012 3:39:31 PM PDT by Kaslin
RUSH: Have you heard about the second blackout in two days that has hit India? Six-hundred and seventy million people are now in the dark. The population of this country is 1.2 billion. So 670 million people in the dark in India. Boy, you know Obama's gotta be green with envy over this. Obama, he wants as many people in this country to be in the dark as he can arrange. That's his whole reelection strategy, keep as many people in the dark as possible. Seriously. India has lost half of its power grid.
Stick with me on this. "What do we care about India, Rush? We're about to lose America." Hang on. Trains are stuck in tunnels. Miners are stuck in mine shafts. Imagine that, now. Hospitals are without any power. Speaking of, just last week, tens of thousands of ChiCom citizens drowned in Beijing and other cities simply because it rained hard and washed away some cheaply built homes and bridges. India and China are the two countries that Obama and other Democrats like Elizabeth Warren are always citing as models for their infrastructure.
These are the countries that we have to be more like. Elizabeth Warren is running a commercial, a TV ad in Massachusetts, urging citizens there to elect her to the Senate, claiming that this country needs to be more like communist China. This is not an ad running in San Francisco. This is an ad running in the whole state of Massachusetts, and she's in the race. She's tight. She's close. She could win this. And she's running an ad encouraging the citizens of Massachusetts to elect her because she wants this country to be more like the communist Chinese.
RUSH: This is interesting. I like this. I got an e-mail during the break. I always check for reaction in the break, the e-mail. Somebody said, "Well, why did the power fail in India? You didn't tell us that." It's a good point. It is an excellent point. Our Official Climatologist here at the EIB Network, Dr. Roy Spencer, University of Alabama at Huntsville, points out that one-tenth of humanity is now without electricity. Six-hundred and seventy million people in India, one-tenth of humanity. Why? Because India decided to reduce the role of coal in electricity production.
They closed some coal mines. They drank the Kool-Aid on the fact that coal causes global warming, that coal is a polluting thing, that coal is dirty and disgusting and poisonous. This is what Obama wants to accomplish. This is what Obama wants. He wants to put the domestic coal business out of business. The Indian government went all-in on that -- well, not all-in, but close, and so they reduced the role of coal in electricity production, and they don't have any electricity. One-tenth of humanity without electricity. There are lessons to learn here, folks.
RUSH: Here's Kathy on the freeway in Illinois. Great to have you on the program, Kath. Hi.
CALLER: Hello, Rush, it's an honor to speak with you. Thanks so much for taking my call.
RUSH: You bet, madam.
CALLER: Now, I heard you mention the enormous power outage in India at the top of the show.
RUSH: Six-hundred and seventy million people without electricity.
CALLER: That's a lot of people, yes.
RUSH: That's one-tenth of all humanity.
CALLER: Wow. That makes it seem even larger. Now, you also mentioned that India is often held up as a country that the US should imitate.
RUSH: No. I said Obama and Elizabeth Warren tell us that we need to imitate and be more like China and India infrastructure-wise, that they are the countries that are setting the trends.
CALLER: Well, I just find that to be completely outrageous. I've actually been to India and seen the infrastructure myself, seen the extreme poverty that is there, and I can't believe that any liberal would want to hold that up as an example of what we should do, especially considering the state of many people there --
RUSH: I'll tell you this, Kathy, if American liberals were thinking, what they would do is declare today to be Earth Day and celebrate the Indian blackout. I mean what do they do? They have a day every year, turn off the lights? Hey, they're off, 670 million people, lights, everything off. This is what they want. They ought to stop everything and declare this is what we are aiming for ourselves, because it is.
CALLER: That, to me, is just ridiculous.
RUSH: Of course it's ridiculous. It's absurd.
CALLER: Just if you consider even the oppression that so many people there face, I can't understand why, you know, the feminists aren't standing up every time someone says we should be more like India. I can't believe they're not jumping up and down outraged that someone would even suggest such a thing.
RUSH: Well, that makes two of us. It does. The hypocrisy on the left. But, see, they don't consider India their opposite. It's us, Kath. We conservatives are all they care about opposing. We are the ones they care to stop. Whatever is happening to women in Saudi Arabia or India, ah, doesn't matter. It's how can we take whatever's happening anywhere we want to highlight and destroy or defeat conservatives. That's the prism through which they look at everything, defeating American conservatives, Republicans, what have you. Kathy, thanks for the call.
This is a glimpse into our future is what it is.
While I think that getting away from coal is generally a good idea, it has to be done in a careful coordinated way with integration of other energy strategies including, conservation, solar, wind, etc. I tend to doubt that the Indian bureaucracy is capable of doing that coordination very well.
Go move to India.
Because the generals knew there was a loaded carbine behind every rock and every tree, and if the men weren’t there to shoot the bastards.....the women were.
Americans are very resourceful. If the power goes off here, and it did in a storm, we have ways. The Amish brought in generators and I kept the pizza parlor going.
But we have got to send bambi down the road. We are almost too patient.
And, YOU think the US bureaucracy could do it better?????
If we could power the world with green stupid, we’d have it made.
They are taking out hydro dams in Oregon and Washington....
While the reasons that Rush cites are valid, there is another source of this failure. India has an extreme problem with bureaucracy far beyond just the desire to reduce coal usage. This is a problem here because every power pole in India has illegal power-taps that the political structure (read bureaucracy) prevents from being removed. It is speculated that illegal use exceeds paid use 3 to 12 fold. It becomes very difficult to have fault-tolerant systems when your paid use cannot support the basic system. Any resemblance between this and how socialism can run out of other people’s money is purely a figment of your imagination.
One of our clients has a service center in India. We usually talk on the phone with them 2-3 times a day. Haven’t heard a word since Friday.
HA...yes, it is
Same here in Michigan. It costs as much to take them out as it does to retrofit them with new generators but taking a dam out removes it from production forever. Oddly enough they are going to generate power on two dams in Ann Arbor. Basically liberals want power for them and everyone else can rot in the dark.
The Argo and Geddes dams in Ann Arbor are expected to be over capacity (Dumping excess over the spillway) some 28% of the time. They just keep churning out power. On the rare occasion a windmill goes over capacity, it shuts down. Michigan has nearly 3000 dams and a few hundred of those have 9 or more feet of head which is required to produce enough power to make them feasible.
Here is the report on the estimates on the Ann Arbor dams. Interesting stuff really.
BTW michigan just passed a law that waives the permit process to produce energy under a certain Kwh.
Unfortunately, environmentalists want to rip out dams, too, in their worship of the Earth.
The Great Lakes Czar, Cameron Davis is head of the Alliance for the Great lakes and dam removal is one of their primary goals.
The problem was never the reduction in use of coal. 70 percent of Indias electricity comes from coal because of Indias large coal reserves and that number is rising. And given the major coal reserves, India actually has a stronger coal lobby and interest groups then even US.
Problem is coal only operates at a steady baseload, but it cant be ramped up suddenly to accommodate quick peak surges in demand.
Check my post #17 about the problem with coal. Because of low monsoon the hydro electric plants in north India were running on low water reserves and the problem was compounded because of sudden surge in neighboring states illegally drawing excess power.
Another brilliant salvo from the airhead emperor of American airwaves. Saudi Arabia and India are the same in terms of how they treat women? Has Rush ever been to India to see the actual representation of women in the government, corporate world, academia, media or the sheer number of women driving vehicles on the streets? Don't think so...
Rush is just a dangerous combination of feeble mind and loud mouth.