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Libertarian Gary Johnson aims for presidential debates
politico.com ^ | July 24, 2012 | Katie Glueck

Posted on 07/31/2012 4:12:21 PM PDT by grundle

Former New Mexico Gov. Gary Johnson, the Libertarian Party nominee, said Thursday the key to winning his longshot bid for president is getting into the presidential debates this fall.

In a wide-ranging interview with POLITICO, the former two-term GOP governor said meeting the 15 percent national polling threshold set by the Commission on Presidential Debates is essential to his campaign since the debates are the only way to effectively get his message out.

“Anything can happen [in the debates]. That could be crash and burn. [Or] it could bring attention to what it is I am saying, my resume,” he said. “I think a lot more people in this country describe themselves as libertarian as opposed to voting libertarian. I think my voice is representative of the fastest growing segment of American politics today, which is libertarian.”

Johnson, who initially pursued the GOP 2012 presidential nomination, has staked out a position for himself as a fiscally conservative, anti-war candidate with a socially liberal bent: He supports abortion rights, backs gay marriage, and is a staunch proponent of legalizing marijuana.

“The majority of Americans are fiscally responsible, socially accepting. I’m in that category. That said, I’m different than the other two in several categories,” he said. “I’m the only candidate that doesn’t want to bomb Iran. I’m the only candidate that wants to get out of Afghanistan tomorrow, bring the troops home. I’m the only candidate that’s talking about marriage equality from the standpoint of it being a constitutionally guaranteed right. Let’s end the drugs wars. Let’s repeal the Patriot Act. I would have never signed Defense Authorization Act. Let’s balance the federal budget tomorrow. Let’s abolish the IRS. Let’s eliminate the income tax, corporate tax, and replace it with one federal consumption tax. These are big differences with the other two.”

Johnson asserted that he could win the race if he could raise $50 million – a fraction of what President Barack Obama and Mitt Romney have raised already. If his campaign had the resources to do a large-scale buy for his campaign advertisements, like the spot called “Be Libertarian with Me,” his popularity would spike, he insisted.

“If we ran these advertisements nationwide…I think you could see a really heightened interest in me and what it is I’m saying,” Johnson said. “If we were to run that nationally, I want to go out on a limb here and say we’d be at 20 percent overnight.”

Johnson said he expected his message would have the most appeal in the Mountain West, as well as Alaska, pointing to the libertarian-leaning nature of those states. So far, the polling bears that out. Recent Public Policy Polling surveys had Johnson polling at 9 percent in Arizona and 7 percent in Colorado. And the former governor rakes in 13 percent in his home state of New Mexico, according to a July 18 PPP poll, though that number is down from 23 percent in December.

In the interview, Johnson laid out a platform that had much in common with Texas Rep. Ron Paul, the former Libertarian nominee for president who also sought the GOP nomination this year – and Johnson hopes to win over many of his backers.

“I’m really counting on Ron Paul voter support,” he said, noting that he didn’t expect Paul to run for president in 2012. “I expect that a Ron Paul voter won’t vote for Mitt Romney.”

While he found Romney “personable” when he met the former Massachusetts governor, Johnson said it’s not clear what Romney believes in.

“I only have one issue with Mitt Romney, and that is, I have no idea where he stands on any issues,” he said.

New Mexico’s current governor, Republican Susana Martinez, is sometimes mentioned as a possible running-mate for Romney. Johnson suggested that if Romney picked Martinez, who was elected in 2010 and is the country’s first female Hispanic governor, the choice would be seen as pandering.

“It would be Palin-esque almost, to go with Susana Martinez,” said Johnson, who added that he disagrees with Martinez on a number of issues, including drug policy and how to handle border security.

Johnson saved his harshest words for the tea party when explaining why that movement was not a home for libertarianism.

“It was co-opted from the original premises — of a balanced budget, lower taxes — to a social agenda that most people can take or leave,” he said.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: 2012debates; libertarian; thirdparty
I'd like to see Johnson in the debates, as well as Green Party candidate Jill Stein.
1 posted on 07/31/2012 4:12:25 PM PDT by grundle
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To: grundle

Politico running feature stories on Gary Johnson. Wonder why?


2 posted on 07/31/2012 4:15:13 PM PDT by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else)
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To: grundle; All

We need to see more different views on the debate podiums. I’m with you. We also ought to have instant runoff so that anytime a candidate does not get 50% plus one of the vote, the true sentiment of the voters can become the final result.


3 posted on 07/31/2012 4:17:50 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: grundle

“anti-war candidate... who supports abortion, gay marriage, and is a staunch proponent of legalizing marijuana.”

This stalking horse could backfire. He has potential to take the Obama young dupe vote.


4 posted on 07/31/2012 4:19:52 PM PDT by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else)
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To: nhwingut
He has potential to take the Obama young dupe vote.

I don't think so, because he is so totally unknown. You only get known by spending huge $$ which he doesn't have. Perot was able to do it with his personal wealth.

5 posted on 07/31/2012 4:22:33 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: grundle
the former two-term GOP governor said meeting the 15 percent national polling threshold set by the Commission on Presidential Debates is essential to his campaign since the debates are the only way to effectively get his message out.

In that case you are wasting your time.

6 posted on 07/31/2012 4:27:06 PM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: nhwingut

He was a FAR FAR better governor in NM than Romney could have ever hoped to be in MA.


7 posted on 07/31/2012 4:27:13 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: fishtank

““I only have one issue with Mitt Romney, and that is, I have no idea where he stands on any issues,” he said.”

Well some of us don’t Have that problem. We know Exactly where O’Romney stands which is about one inch away from Zero on almost every issue we care about.

Still, if I thought he’d a chance of winning, I’d rather have Almost anyone than Romney, provided they unhorse Generalisimo Obambi.


8 posted on 07/31/2012 4:35:32 PM PDT by To-Whose-Benefit? (It is Error alone which needs the support of Government. The Truth can stand by itself.)
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To: grundle
Dissing the TEA Party puts him in the stupid column—no way is Romney going to allow this twit to take time from him in the debates—Mitt is gonna have little enough as it is with the MSM moderators interrupting him and letting Obama bloviate without end.
9 posted on 07/31/2012 4:35:58 PM PDT by Happy Rain ("Obamacare like all Marxist fails, outlaws redress before creating it's demand.")
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To: grundle

Some of Johnson’s views may play best in the Mountain West and Alaska, but that’s not the case with gay marriage. I believe the people of just about every state in that region have overwhelmingly passed a marriage amendment.

But this matters not to Johnson; he thinks gay marriage is a Constitutional right! Obama of course agrees but won’t yet say so, so I guess Johnson deserves credit for being honest. But Johnson should make it clear exactly what his position means; namely that judges should strike down every traditional marriage law and amendment and impose gay marriage on the entire nation. Be honest with the people. Tell them that you consider their recent direct votes on the matter to be acts of hatred and bigotry, and that you, as a morally superior person, will seek to have the judiciary strike down those votes.

So what kind of judges would Johnson nominate? A judge who will impose gay marriage will likely be very unfriendly to other aspects of libertarian thought. I wonder what kind of judges he nominated while governor of NM?

And of course Johnson holds the typically crazy libertarian views on immigration. He’d legalize illegals and increase already mass levels of legal immigration. It has apparently escaped him that the vast majority of these immigrants will go on to vote Democrat, and for ever increaseing government. Why can’t libertarians see this? Are they really so clueless that they think their philosophy will win over Hispanics, Asians, and other immigrants? Do they really think small-govt, live and let live appeals stand a chance against Democrat mastery of ethnic and racial pandering?

I’m sure he’d like the results a permanent Democrat majority would put in place as far as social issues, but his ideas about government and taxes would be buried.

I know libertarians like to say things like ‘get rid of the welfare state’, or ‘get rid of racial preferences’, but keep mass immigration. Again, why can’t libertarins see the problem of trying to abolish these policies while immigration policy continually imports more customers of them?


10 posted on 07/31/2012 4:41:27 PM PDT by Aetius
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To: fishtank; To-Whose-Benefit?

Do governors in NM appoint judges? If so, what kind did he tend to nominate?

His statement about gay marriage being a constitutional right should not be overlooked. One can only arrive at that if they buy into the absurd ‘living Constitution’ method of interpretation. And if one buys into that, then they should have no problem with other judicial outrages like the case gutting private property rights. Someone looking for a socially liberal but economically conservative judge will likely end up with a judge who is liberal on everything.

I like Johnson less every time I hear him speak, mostly due to the type of judges his rhetoric suggests he would nominate, and because of his leftwing views on immigration.


11 posted on 07/31/2012 4:48:24 PM PDT by Aetius
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To: fishtank; To-Whose-Benefit?

Do governors in NM appoint judges? If so, what kind did he tend to nominate?

His statement about gay marriage being a constitutional right should not be overlooked. One can only arrive at that if they buy into the absurd ‘living Constitution’ method of interpretation. And if one buys into that, then they should have no problem with other judicial outrages like the case gutting private property rights. Someone looking for a socially liberal but economically conservative judge will likely end up with a judge who is liberal on everything.

I like Johnson less every time I hear him speak, mostly due to the type of judges his rhetoric suggests he would nominate, and because of his leftwing views on immigration.


12 posted on 07/31/2012 4:48:46 PM PDT by Aetius
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To: nhwingut

Nope. If that became a real possibility, the media would change the narrative. They’d play up all the ways he might appeal to conservatives, and downplay the ways he appeals to liberals.


13 posted on 07/31/2012 4:50:40 PM PDT by Aetius
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To: grundle
...the former two-term GOP governor said meeting the 15 percent national polling threshold set by the Commission on Presidential Debates is essential to his campaign...

Here's what the rule should be: The national debates should include ALL candidates who are on the ballots in enough states that, if they won those states, would be enough to reach the 270 Electoral College votes needed to win.

What we have now with the polling threshold is media-driven, not ideas driven, as it should be.

14 posted on 07/31/2012 5:01:15 PM PDT by libertylover (The problem with Obama is not that his skin is too black, it's that his ideas are too RED.)
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To: grundle

What Gary needs to do is reject all the commies who have infiltrated the Libertarian Party and kick them out. Harry Brown saw that coming and couldn’t muster enough patriots to stop it. That’s too bad. Harry should have called for patriots to bust commie heads back in 1996.

So the chore is passed onto conservative patriots, Let’s see if they answer the call.


15 posted on 07/31/2012 5:02:00 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Public unions exist to protect the unions from the taxpaying public)
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To: grundle

Gary will get plenty of funding from the Obama team. Another divide and conquer strategy in the making. Same as Goode in Virginia.


16 posted on 07/31/2012 5:03:05 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: grundle
Johnson "supports abortion rights, backs gay marriage, and is a staunch proponent of legalizing marijuana."

I'd like to see Johnson in the debates, as well as Green Party candidate Jill Stein.

Not waiting for 'President Johnson' to legalize marijuana? lol

America doesn't need another President Johnson, thank you very much. There are too many abortions and homosexual unions going on already.
17 posted on 07/31/2012 5:06:17 PM PDT by mkjessup (0bama squats to pee.)
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To: grundle
We're working to get of Obama--and now a Libertarian wants to run for president?
18 posted on 07/31/2012 5:43:27 PM PDT by righttackle44 (I may not be much, but I raised a United States Marine.)
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19 posted on 07/31/2012 5:58:20 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93destr)
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To: grundle; Aetius; nascarnation; Homer_J_Simpson; no-to-illegals; fishtank; To-Whose-Benefit?; ...

Well you asked for her, it appears that despite not accepting corporate funds Dr. Stein is getting some publicity. Also she is qualified in enough states to get an Electoral College majority. She and her VP candidate were arrested today in Philadelphia for protesting Fannie Mae for unfair foreclosure practices. At least she has the guts to put herself on the line. Having read the entire article including the case of the two women being kicked out of the homes where they had lived for many years, I see both banking and judicial misfeasance, malfeasance and nonfeasance at the criminal level. [providing, of course, that the information is correct.]

http://www.jillstein.org/stein_and_honkala_arrested?utm_campaign=fannie_mae_1&recruiter_id=50534&utm_medium=email&utm_source=jillstein

Perhaps someone would like to post this as a separate thread. My computer skills suck.


20 posted on 08/01/2012 11:04:00 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: grundle

Keep this dumbass out of debates. He will only steal Romney votes. Meaning Obama is very happy to see the pot head party out there and in debates.

My prediction is the debates will end up Bammy vs Romney. No libertine party dude on the stage


21 posted on 08/01/2012 11:17:07 PM PDT by dennisw (Government be yo mamma - Re-elect Barack Obama)
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