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Obama will 'evaluate' bill to ban online munition sales
The Washington Times ^ | July 30, 2012 | Susan Crabtree

Posted on 07/31/2012 4:12:59 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

White House spokesman Josh Earnest said Monday that President Obama will "evaluate" a new bill that would ban online ammunition sales in the wake of the shooting massacre in Aurora, Colo. That left 12 dead and dozens more injured.

During the daily press briefing, Mr. Earnest was asked whether Mr. Obama supports the measure, which aims to end sales of unlimited amounts of ammunition on the Internet and other mail orders. The bill also would force ammunition dealers to report large sales of bullets and other munitions to law enforcement authorities

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1 posted on 07/31/2012 4:13:06 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Obama can “evaluate” it all he wants, but it’s dead as in DOA as is the brains of the two lib clowns who introduced the bill.


2 posted on 07/31/2012 4:17:08 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Free ThinkerNY

That would be the most foolish act taken by Obama in a long, long series of foolish acts.

It would come to be known as The Final Straw.


3 posted on 07/31/2012 4:19:24 PM PDT by Iron Munro ("Jiggle the Handle for Barry!")
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To: Free ThinkerNY

do it obama, I triple dog dare you


4 posted on 07/31/2012 4:22:17 PM PDT by Jeff Vader (voting for romney, would much rather have Sarah Palin)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Obama will 'evaluate' bill to ban online munition sales

Gee, I wonder what his decision will be? /s

5 posted on 07/31/2012 4:23:07 PM PDT by doc1019 (Romney will NEVER get my vote.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY; Red Steel; Iron Munro; JohnPierce
@Congressional Record JULY 30, 2012
Page S5658 right column, 1/2 way down... By Mr. LAUTENBERG (for himself and Mrs. FEINSTEIN):
S. 3458. A bill to require face to face purchases of ammunition, to require licensing of ammunition dealers, and to require reporting regarding bulk purchases of ammunition; to the Committee on the Judiciary.

No bill text yet that I can find.

...sponsored by Sen. Frank Lautenberg, Democrat from New Jersey, and Rep. Carolyn McCarthy, a Democrat from New York.
Lautenberg and Feinstein, not McCarthy.

6 posted on 07/31/2012 4:25:23 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Red Steel
You seem to forget that this President has no problem bypassing the normal legislative processes to get what he wants.

He'll use executive fiat, executive order, or he'll find some government agency to do his bidding much like he used the EPA to impose environmental mandates that he couldn't get through Congress.

If that doesn't work, it's been proven that judicial tyranny is another avenue for getting around the constitution for this dictator.....I mean President.

7 posted on 07/31/2012 4:26:32 PM PDT by Carbonsteel
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To: doc1019
Gee, I wonder what his decision will be? /s

That it's a good idea, but it would be better handled after the election, when he'll have more flexibility.

8 posted on 07/31/2012 4:27:01 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: philman_36

Can’t wait till this a-hole assumes room temp!


9 posted on 07/31/2012 4:27:28 PM PDT by Renegade
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To: Red Steel

These true believers never learn. Never.

Their idiot, anti 2nd Amendment Fast and Furious has 300 foreign nationals Murdered in their own country, and their US AG cited for civil and criminal contempt of Congress, facing a civil suit, and now this.

Evaluate, another Liberal euphemism for unwanted, forced sex.


10 posted on 07/31/2012 4:28:38 PM PDT by To-Whose-Benefit? (It is Error alone which needs the support of Government. The Truth can stand by itself.)
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To: philman_36

I sure wish they would apply the same strict criteria for ammo purchase to voting.
Funny how old people and minorities can’t get an ID to vote but can manage to buy their ammo face to face.
These guys need to be called out. Too bad the GOP has a policy of checking their testicles at the door before going to work.


11 posted on 07/31/2012 4:36:30 PM PDT by Clump ( the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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To: Renegade
Can’t wait till this a-hole assumes room temp!

He'll simply be replaced with another, younger version of himself
with "good hair and strong sexual appeal" for both genders to gawk over.

12 posted on 07/31/2012 4:39:15 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
"It's not nice to be a Jackass Mr Obama. No it isn't."


13 posted on 07/31/2012 4:40:08 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: philman_36

I wonder what limit they have in mind?


14 posted on 07/31/2012 4:47:25 PM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Buckwheat evaluates the law, which he doesn’t recognize anymore, and says what the law is. What a joke.

PS: FU mercenary secret service traitors.


15 posted on 07/31/2012 4:51:26 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Public unions exist to protect the unions from the taxpaying public)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

If the libs want to waste their time on this, I say go for it. It`s a dead end which won`t win any political points.


16 posted on 07/31/2012 4:53:20 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

If the libs want to waste their time on this, I say go for it. It`s a dead end which won`t win any political points.


17 posted on 07/31/2012 4:53:42 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I always knew they would come for the ammunition.

After all, the Second Amendment states the right to keep and bear arms....not the right to ammunition. Arms are mentioned but ammunition is not.

The sleazy legal experts have now parsed those two words to the point that now they are concentrating on the ammo...not the piece of hardware that fires it.

Now my prophecy seem to be coming true.

It won’t be long until CW-III will begin.


18 posted on 07/31/2012 5:04:54 PM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Such bills have no chance of passing--not even compromises. Maybe the politicians have investments in ammunition, firearms prices and hysteria in general. The media have been full of sponsored predictions about the end of the world and threats to spy on us all in new ways for several years. It appears that our leaders are in league with conspiracy story mongers and other fruitcakes.

Buy low. There won't be any high selling with as much as has been purchased by now. Or have at it. Join in the panic. I'm okay for defense now and will wait a while to purchase anything. Lost investments or government income/pension and need to eat for the next week? Sure. I'll buy something cheap (see three or four years from now).

Have fun. Enjoy the ride. All we're going to see is meek poverty and more anti-small-American-manufacturing regulations from both political parties. And more hysteria, of course.

From The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48 :

  Hysteria \Hys*te"ri*a\, n. [NL.: cf. F. hyst['e]rie. See
     Hysteric.] (Med.)
     A nervous affection, occurring almost exclusively in women,
     in which the emotional and reflex excitability is
     exaggerated, and the will power correspondingly diminished,
     so that the patient loses control over the emotions, becomes
     the victim of imaginary sensations, and often falls into
     paroxism or fits.
     [1913 Webster]
  
     Note: The chief symptoms are convulsive, tossing movements of
           the limbs and head, uncontrollable crying and laughing,
           and a choking sensation as if a ball were lodged in the
           throat. The affection presents the most varied
           symptoms, often simulating those of the gravest
           diseases, but generally curable by mental treatment
           alone. Hysteric



It's all in style, you know. Watch out! Global warming. Overpopulation! Mayan calendar! Secret world takeover! A dark planet is going to crash into us! [Little irony and humor there.]

The only certain and significant threat is the bond and debt collapse ahead. Result: whole lot of new poor folks, wondering why the world didn't blow up. Oh...and us Baby Boomers, of course. Each of our worlds are about to end, 'cause we're going to die. So yes, many of our government-supported peers are hoping to see some change that will make us live forever to mess things up more.


19 posted on 07/31/2012 5:24:43 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Such bills have no chance of passing--not even compromises. Maybe the politicians have investments in ammunition, firearms prices and hysteria in general. The media have been full of sponsored predictions about the end of the world and threats to spy on us all in new ways for several years. It appears that our leaders are in league with conspiracy story mongers and other fruitcakes.

Buy low. There won't be any high selling with as much as has been purchased by now. Or have at it. Join in the panic. I'm okay for defense now and will wait a while to purchase anything. Lost investments or government income/pension and need to eat for the next week? Sure. I'll buy something cheap (see three or four years from now).

Have fun. Enjoy the ride. All we're going to see is meek poverty and more anti-small-American-manufacturing regulations from both political parties. And more hysteria, of course.

From The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48 :

  Hysteria \Hys*te"ri*a\, n. [NL.: cf. F. hyst['e]rie. See
     Hysteric.] (Med.)
     A nervous affection, occurring almost exclusively in women,
     in which the emotional and reflex excitability is
     exaggerated, and the will power correspondingly diminished,
     so that the patient loses control over the emotions, becomes
     the victim of imaginary sensations, and often falls into
     paroxism or fits.
     [1913 Webster]
  
     Note: The chief symptoms are convulsive, tossing movements of
           the limbs and head, uncontrollable crying and laughing,
           and a choking sensation as if a ball were lodged in the
           throat. The affection presents the most varied
           symptoms, often simulating those of the gravest
           diseases, but generally curable by mental treatment
           alone. Hysteric



It's all in style, you know. Watch out! Global warming. Overpopulation! Mayan calendar! Secret world takeover! A dark planet is going to crash into us! [Little irony and humor there.]

The only certain and significant threat is the bond and debt collapse ahead. Result: whole lot of new poor folks, wondering why the world didn't blow up. Oh...and us Baby Boomers, of course. Each of our worlds are about to end, 'cause we're going to die. So yes, many of our government-supported peers are hoping to see some change that will make us live forever to mess things up more.


20 posted on 07/31/2012 5:25:13 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: Free ThinkerNY

What about the poor who can’t drive to the ammo store?


21 posted on 07/31/2012 5:27:46 PM PDT by bmwcyle (Corollary - Electing the same person over and over and expecting a different outcome is insanity)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Anyone care to recommend a dependable online source for good quality 5.56 ammo. I could use another 2K rounds.


22 posted on 07/31/2012 5:28:04 PM PDT by Gator113 (***YOU GAVE it to Obama. I would have voted for NEWT.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: Gator113

These guys ship the same day if ordered early. I have purchased 3 or 4 times from them. Excellent service:

http://www.sgammo.com/catalog/rifle-ammunition/223-556mm


23 posted on 07/31/2012 5:47:05 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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To: Gator113
Anyone care to recommend a dependable online source for good quality 5.56 ammo. I could use another 2K rounds.

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/

24 posted on 07/31/2012 5:47:22 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Free ThinkerNY; All

Any legislator who votes for anti-2A bills should lose all armed security.

Would love to see Republicans push a bill like that!


25 posted on 07/31/2012 5:52:25 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: Gator113

Yep. Seems that many who didn’t already fire much for sport or duty (e.g., combat training service) are going crazy.

The Department Of Homeland Security Is Buying 450 Million New Bullets
http://articles.businessinsider.com/2012-03-28/news/31247765_1_atk-rounds-bullet#ixzz22FcO5cD2
Eloise Lee|March 28, 2012

From the article:
“We’ve also learned that the Department has an open bid for a stockpile of rifle ammo. Listed on the federal business opportunities network, they’re looking for up to 175 million rounds of .223 caliber ammo to be exact. The .223 is almost exactly the same round used by NATO forces, the 5.56 x 45mm.”

Might try this one for ammo, if they have anything that you like.

http://www.luckygunner.com/rifle/5.56x45-ammo

As for the “crazy,” it’ll blow over. I remember the Sayco (or Saico or whatever) yo-yo craze way back when.


26 posted on 07/31/2012 5:54:21 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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27 posted on 07/31/2012 6:00:24 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93destr)
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To: Gator113

Ammunition search engine.

http://ammoseek.com/

I prefer handloads for old technology firearms and haven’t used it (old, like myself). Looks useful, though.


28 posted on 07/31/2012 6:03:52 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: Gator113
Anyone care to recommend a dependable online source for good quality 5.56 ammo. I could use another 2K rounds.

CheaperThanDirt.com/ItemListing.aspx?catid=110

Regards,
GtG

29 posted on 07/31/2012 8:06:42 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: familyop; Gandalf_The_Gray; Red Steel; dynachrome

Thanks to all.

I have accumulated a nice stock over the last few years, but you can never have enough. ;>)


30 posted on 07/31/2012 8:22:27 PM PDT by Gator113 (***YOU GAVE it to Obama. I would have voted for NEWT.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: familyop
Such bills have no chance of passing--not even compromises.

If Obama decides he can gain a few votes by limiting ammunition purchases he will just issue an executive order and worry about the lawsuits later.

The democrats in congress, along with some RINOs, have been complicit in working with Obama to emasculate congress and allowing him to bypass them whenever he feels the desire.

So now, there are really no more checks and balances. We have three branches of government on paper only. The tyrant does what he wants, and no one in a position of power, responsibility or influence seems to have the guts to challenge him in a meaningful way.


31 posted on 07/31/2012 8:45:55 PM PDT by Iron Munro ("Jiggle the Handle for Barry!")
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Oh please, Obama, please do it!!!! Timing is perfect. Do it!!!


32 posted on 08/01/2012 7:22:19 AM PDT by lgjhn23
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I am really sick of this jerk. Obama just sucks in pretty much every way it is possible for a degenrate marxist homo to suck.


33 posted on 08/01/2012 7:34:07 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: Iron Munro
What is Obama going to do with all of the new "criminals?"


34 posted on 08/01/2012 8:32:47 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Free ThinkerNY; Red Steel; Iron Munro; Jeff Vader; doc1019; philman_36; Carbonsteel; ...

Hey Bambi, Evaluate This!

As if Fast & Furious wasn’t enough for these cretins.
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/31312016/detail.html

Never let a crisis go to waste, Never, and if you don’t have one, manufacture it, see F&F.

The State Medical Board order of reprimand to the shooters drug pusher/quack is worth a read too.
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/download/2012/0728/31313898.pdf

This crap keeps happening again and again and again, and it always takes months for the details to leak out, and be ignored.

I Have Cho’s medical records from Virginia Tech, and I remain unshakeably certain that if those Idiot Counselors had just minded their own business, Virginia Tech never would have happened.

Cho was introverted, and just plain ornery, but no one got dead until After the counselors badgered him into a diagnosis and drugging.

If anyone wants those records drop me a valid e-addy in a private mssg.

http://ssristories.com/


35 posted on 08/01/2012 8:47:08 AM PDT by To-Whose-Benefit? (It is Error alone which needs the support of Government. The Truth can stand by itself.)
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To: Carbonsteel

He could use the EPA again by banning the interstate transportation of toxic substances (lead).


36 posted on 08/01/2012 9:24:14 AM PDT by Drill Thrawl (Another day. Another small provocation. Another step closer.)
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To: familyop
"The Department Of Homeland Security Is Buying 450 Million New Bullets" No, they are not. They are buying 450 million rounds of ammunition, which happens to incorporate shellcases, primers, powder and bullets. A "round" is known as a "cartridge". Multiple cartridges are known as "ammunition".

"Bullets" are those little thingies that are launched by a firearm and fly thru the air until they contact their target or the ground.

Bullets are to cartridges as cement is to concrete, as flour is to bread, etc. When will everyone learn?

37 posted on 08/01/2012 9:45:01 AM PDT by Buffalo Head (Illigitimi non carborundum)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I hope they try it. This to will be Chick Fil A’d!


38 posted on 08/01/2012 11:03:03 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!
39 posted on 08/01/2012 11:23:29 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
That it's a good idea, but it would be better handled after the election, when he'll have more flexibility.

DAMN! You beat me to it.

40 posted on 08/01/2012 11:41:25 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

41 posted on 08/01/2012 11:49:53 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Buffalo Head
"Bullets are to cartridges as cement is to concrete, as flour is to bread, etc. When will everyone learn?"

When most writers hired for news reporting by news publications are healthy, heterosexual men again. News should be reported by analytical minds. That's not likely to happen before the bond collapse and remainder of default process, though, because most of the bosses and sponsors are queers.


42 posted on 08/01/2012 4:15:42 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: Buffalo Head
"The Department Of Homeland Security Is Buying 450 Million New Bullets" No, they are not. They are buying 450 million rounds of ammunition, which happens to incorporate shellcases, primers, powder and bullets. A "round" is known as a "cartridge". Multiple cartridges are known as "ammunition".

If they bought ammunition then, as bullets are a component thereof, they bought bullets too.

43 posted on 08/01/2012 4:23:18 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Carbonsteel
He'll use executive fiat, executive order, or he'll find some government agency to do his bidding much like he used the EPA to impose environmental mandates that he couldn't get through Congress.

Yeah, and I'll bet I know how: He'll force the USPS, and pressure UPS and FedEx to not ship the ammo. Buy it online all you want, but you can't get it shipped. That's the Chicago Way.

44 posted on 08/01/2012 4:27:34 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: philman_36

“”...By Mr. LAUTENBERG...”

Does this rancid old piece of dog crap just SIT and wait by the phone for news of the next shooting, and then come running to the Hill to bring up another gun ban bill?

I mean really - what useful purpose does this worthless old codger serve, other than being a rubber stamp Democommie?

Hey New Jersey - one of your lunatics escaped from the Fruits and Nuts Playhouse. Recall him and do the rest of the country a favor..


45 posted on 08/01/2012 7:48:55 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale
Does this rancid old piece of dog crap just SIT and wait by the phone for news of the next shooting, and then come running to the Hill to bring up another gun ban bill?

Nah, people that do that for him. They just use him as the willing, duped mule who is still searching for relevancy in his dwindling "career".

You don't think that he actually wrote that bill, do you?
Some gun grabbing liberal sycophant has the bills written up, ready and waiting for the right event/crisis.

The same thing happens with almost every bill put forth. All the writers are looking for is someone to sponsor the bill and people rarely ever find out who actually composed the bill.

46 posted on 08/01/2012 8:00:30 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

STOP THE ‘BILL’ MADNESS!!! I’m SICK of these pompous politicians and their G-damn INSTA-BILLS following major news events. Knee jerker jerk-offs!! RESTRAINT was of key importance to our Forefathers.


47 posted on 08/01/2012 8:04:07 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: doc1019; All
We already went down this road in the 80’s. You had to buy ammunition face to face, and state if it was to be used in a handgun or a long gun. Your information was taken down and recorded.

It was a complete flop, and people got so tired of it that it was repealed in the Reagan era. Complete waste of time, designed for no other purpose but to make it difficult to exercise your right to keep and bear arms, and to build a data base to harass gun owners.

48 posted on 08/01/2012 8:18:03 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: OneWingedShark
Yeah, and the rest of the automobile came with the last rear bumper that you purchased. Juvenile word games add nothing to the discourse.
49 posted on 08/01/2012 8:56:53 PM PDT by Buffalo Head (Illigitimi non carborundum)
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To: marktwain; Squantos; Eaker

...and it’s easier to buy Lortabs and Vyvanse than Sudafed. Opioids and amphetamines require less BS to buy than decongestants.

Coming to an ammo store, by edict, near you. Got yer lead stamps?


50 posted on 08/01/2012 10:18:15 PM PDT by glock rocks (optimist / pessimist? I'm an awesomist - There's a dragon in that glass!)
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