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Pelosi’s New Archbishop Warns: America Could Be Moving Toward ‘Despotism’
CNS News ^ | July 31, 2012 | Staff

Posted on 07/31/2012 6:55:08 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o

Recent government attacks on religious liberty have made him fear the United States might be headed toward “despotism,” the newly appointed archbishop of San Francisco—a city represented by House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi—warned in a recent speech.

“When I saw what was happening and my eyes were opened, it made me fear that we could be starting to move in the direction of license and despotism,” the Most Reverend Salvatore J. Cordileone said at a May 24 conference on religious liberty at the Ethics in Public Policy Center in Washington, D.C.

In the same speech, Cordileone also said church leaders “cannot get political in the sense of being partisan,” while noting that protecting religious liberty was not a political issue but an issue of "first principles."

Cordileone, who holds a doctorate in canon law, currently serves as bishop of Oakland, Calif., and chairman of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops Subcommittee on the Defense and Promotion of Marriage. He has been a leading spokesman for Catholic teachings on marriage and sexual morality and an outspoken opponent of same-sex marriage and civil unions.

Pope Benedict XVI appointed Cordileone archbishop of San Francisco on Friday. Cordileone will formally take up that position on Oct. 4, the feast of St. Francis, the patron saint of San Francisco.

Bishop Salvatore J. Cordileone (AP Photo)

When he spoke in Washington, D.C., in May, Cordileone referenced a speech that Cardinal James Gibbons--who served as archbishop of Baltimore in the late 19th and early 20th centuries--gave in Rome in 1887.

Gibbons' 1887 speech focused on the unique heritage of liberty enjoyed by all Americans, including Catholics.

The Catholic Church has been "forced to struggle for her existence wherever despotism has cast its dark shadow, like a plant shut out from the blessed light of heaven,” Gibbons said in that speech. “But in the genial atmosphere of liberty she blossoms like a rose.

"For myself,” Gibbons continued, “as a citizen of the United States, and without closing my eyes to our shortcomings as a nation, I say, with a deep sense of pride and gratitude, that I belong to a country where the civil government holds over us the aegis of its protection, without interfering with us in the legitimate exercise of our sublime mission as ministers of the Gospel of Christ.

“Our country has liberty without license, and authority without despotism,” this American cardinal told that European congregation 125 years ago.

After referencing these words of Cardinal Gibbons, Bishop Cordileone said he became concerned about the future of religious liberty in the United States after he got involved in the issue of same-sex marriage.

“My own experience: I sort of backed into this religious liberty debate by my involvement with her Siamese twin, the definition of marriage in the law,” he said.

“And I got swept up in that, not exclusively, but in large degree, because I was enlightened by Dr. [Robert] George [of Princeton Univerity] and other people of his kind, as to the erosion of the rights of religious institutions to serve the broader community in accord with their moral principles precisely because of this issue, as well the rights of individuals to have their freedom of conscience respected,” said Bishop Cordileone.

“When I saw what was happening and my eyes were opened, it made me fear that we could be starting to move in the direction of license and despotism,” the bishop said.

He then cited a number of examples of attacks on religious liberty in the United States, including a New Mexico photographer who was sued for declining to photograph a same-sex “commitment ceremony” and the numerous Catholic Charities around the country that have had to stop providing adoption services because states have declared it discriminatory for adoption services not to place a child with a same-sex couple.

Bishop Cordileone also specifically discussed the regulation that Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius has issued, which takes effect on Aug. 1, and which requires health-care plans, including those provided by Catholic business owners and institutions, to provide cost-free coverage for sterilizations, contraceptives and abortion-inducing drugs. The Catholic bishops of the United States have unanimously declared this regulation an “unjust and illegal mandate” that violates the First Amendment right to the free exercise of religion by forcing Catholics—both employers and employees—to act against the teachings of the Catholic faith.

“I want to express profound gratitude and how encouraged I am by all of you who have stood by us Catholics in the midst of this Health and Human Services-mandate battle,” said Bishop Cordileone. “It is a great moment for all of us, and it is a great moment of encouragement for us leaders in the Catholic Church. We all rightly recognize that this is a question of the state intruding into the affairs of the church even to the point of defining for the church what constitutes their ministry. And we all recognize that if they get away with this--I’ll put it that way--that it will not stop there. It will just keep getting worse. We are all vulnerable.”

Bishop Cordileone went on to say that church leaders cannot “get political” but that the fight in defense of religious liberty and against the HHS mandate is not a political fight by a fight over first principles.

“We cannot get political in the sense of being partisan, not those of us who are church leaders at any rate,” he said. “Ultimately, it would compromise our role as the conscience of society and as that buffer we heard about earlier between the government and individual.

“Also, this is not really a political struggle, it is a struggle for first principles, principles that we should all be able to agree upon,” he said. “We would as faith communities compromise who we are called to be if we became tied to any political agenda or platform.”

“As we have heard repeated today, religious liberty is the first right in the Bill of Rights not just chronologically but logically,” Bishop Cordileone said.

“We are here today standing together because we love the United States of America and we want what is best for her,” he told the Ethics and Public Policy conference. “The United States of America has benefitted myself and I am sure all of you, and those people who immigrated to this land and found great opportunity. We are here today because we know if we do not stand together, our nation will fall apart.”

In February, after the Obama administration finalized the sterilization-contraception-abortifacient regulation, CNSNews.com asked Minority Leader Pelosi, who is Catholic, if she was going to stand with her church in resisting it. Pelosi responded that she was going to stand with other Catholics in supporting the Obama administration against the church.

“First of all, I am going to stick with my fellow Catholics in supporting the administration on this," said Pelosi. "I think it was a very courageous decision that they made, and I support it.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: catholic; liberty; tyranny
Cordileone gets his game face on.
1 posted on 07/31/2012 6:55:15 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
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To: don-o; stpio; stfassisi; A.A. Cunningham; A.Hun; Albion Wilde; Al Hitan; AnAmericanMother; ...
Start praying.

Keep praying.

2 posted on 07/31/2012 6:59:04 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God." 1 Peter 4:17)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Looks like the new Archbishop's got some excommunicatin' to do.
3 posted on 07/31/2012 7:00:45 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: don-o; stpio; stfassisi; A.A. Cunningham; A.Hun; Albion Wilde; Al Hitan; AnAmericanMother; ...
Start praying.

Keep praying.

4 posted on 07/31/2012 7:02:40 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God." 1 Peter 4:17)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

When he excommunicates Nanzi Pelosi then maybe he
gets it.


5 posted on 07/31/2012 7:04:13 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: skeeter

“Looks like the new Archbishop’s got some excommunicatin’ to do. “

Do it! Show the strength of religion. Excommunicate the bitch. Would love to hear her reaction!


6 posted on 07/31/2012 7:04:50 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: skeeter

That should be his firt job.

Tell Pelosi she isn;t to go for Communion and that she is excommunicated.


7 posted on 07/31/2012 7:10:39 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Less talk. More bell, book and candle.


8 posted on 07/31/2012 7:12:12 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Does anyone know how Obamacare has affected the number of Catholics who won’t vote for Obama? Catholics make up a fairly significant part of the electorate and it would seem to me that many are not happy with the rules on abortion and contraception.


9 posted on 07/31/2012 7:14:38 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Maybe Pelosi will retire now!


10 posted on 07/31/2012 7:18:22 PM PDT by Domestic Church (AMDG ...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
We were with him on Sunday. He was warm and gracious but under no illusions, he knows he has a target painted on his back so to speak. He is a very brave man, please remember to pray for him.

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11 posted on 07/31/2012 7:25:49 PM PDT by pbear8 (the Lord is my light and my salvation)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

He had better get political and understand who He is dealing with. The dnc is a thug, criminal organization. Abortion, same sex marriage, just about every morally repulsive behavior thought of, are embraced and protected by people of this organization. They have no guide posts on their roads, no compass to tell them that they are off the path, obey no rules. They are their own god’s, pagans. They worship” mother earth”, have no understanding of Jesus, reject His teachings, and a bunch of them cozy right up to satan like the lost sheep that they are.


12 posted on 07/31/2012 7:30:42 PM PDT by reefdiver (Shoeless John Roberts, An American Tragedy.)
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To: skeeter
Looks like the new Archbishop's got some excommunicatin' to do.
I remember my b-i-l (a priest) told me when a new pastor comes to a parish, he's not to change much of anything for about two years. Have you heard this too? And if so, maybe the same applies to an archbishop? I hope not, but the Church is so very very very very very slow on doing what seems so obvious to the rest of us. Every time Nancy and Kathleen open their heretical mouths, it seems to me they're lifting their legs on the Catholic Church and peeing away. It's hard to take.
13 posted on 07/31/2012 7:35:29 PM PDT by mlizzy (And if we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell others not to kill? --MT)
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To: tet68

COR DI LEONE = Heart of a Lion, Italian


14 posted on 07/31/2012 7:36:32 PM PDT by Frank Sheed (The injustice of trendiness is nearly dualistic in its isomorphism.)
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To: pbear8

Interesting. Thank you for your post.


15 posted on 07/31/2012 7:40:04 PM PDT by GBA
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Too late. We already have a despot in the White House.


16 posted on 07/31/2012 7:42:25 PM PDT by GR_Jr. (Vote Obama out now.....deal with Romney later.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
How does a Catholic -- trying to do what's best for oneself and one's children -- respond to the comments of this bishop? His statements regarding political neutrality sound like so much more cockamamie crap that's gotten us into the mess we're in. Give me those oh-so-few-and-far-between clerics who stand at the pulpit and call evil by its name! Damn this naive "we're all in this together" garbage -- anyone who understands where we are as a culture and a nation KNOWS THAT IS NOT SO!!!!
17 posted on 07/31/2012 8:11:15 PM PDT by workerbee (June 28, 2012 -- 9/11 From Within)
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To: skeeter
There are hurdles to surmount in order to excommunicate someone. But Pelosi MUST be denied Communion, because of Canon 915:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_915

Those who have been excommunicated or interdicted after the imposition or declaration of the penalty and others obstinately persevering in manifest grave sin are not to be admitted to holy communion.

Pelosi is a person obstinately persevering in a situation of manifest grave sin--because she is pro-abortion, pro-gay-marriage, etc. She obstinately supports the HHS Abortion/Sterilization Mandate.

18 posted on 07/31/2012 8:12:55 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (In Edward Kennedy's America, federal funding of brothels is a right, not a privilege.)
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To: workerbee
He did much of the organizing behind Prop 8, the true marriage proposition which the people did pass. His first job is to make the diocese safe for conservatives and for more Latin Masses. He must make changes in the Chancery Office, but he must work with the priests who are in the diocese. It is a very tough job. And he does call evil by its name, read his previous comments on SSM.

Please pray for him, I cannot stress enough how big a target he is, he will not be safe in SF.

19 posted on 07/31/2012 8:26:46 PM PDT by pbear8 (the Lord is my light and my salvation)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Could be?????

Wake up Padre!

20 posted on 07/31/2012 8:29:30 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: Arthur McGowan
She was told back in January of 2007 by her Pastor not to receive.
21 posted on 07/31/2012 8:34:32 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: pbear8

I will pray for him. At one time, I lived in the Oakland Diocese. Oakland and San Francisco Catholics are lucky to have him. I’m looking forward to hearing that he has called Nazi Pelosi on the carpet. It seems that her interviews with the retiring Archhbisop didn’t get very far.

I love the translation of his name — heart of a lion. May it be so...


22 posted on 07/31/2012 8:38:16 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (ABO)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Is that Pelosi’s home parish in San Francisco? Or was this just a statement by the pastor of some other parish?

Strictly speaking, the official determination of who must be denied Communion because of obstinate persistence in manifest grave sin belongs to the pastor of the local church (http://tinyurl.com/pont), not the bishop. Nevertheless, a bishop is bound to obey Canon 915 himself if a notorious sinner approaches him for Communion. And he can make a public statement to all his priests that he expects them to refuse Communion to some notorious sinner. I.e., Pelosi.


23 posted on 07/31/2012 8:46:00 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (In Edward Kennedy's America, federal funding of brothels is a right, not a privilege.)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

The reason I doubt that this was written by Pelosi’s pastor is the extremely informal tone. I think that a pastor making an official public statement was be a bit more restrained and formal.


24 posted on 07/31/2012 8:54:12 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (In Edward Kennedy's America, federal funding of brothels is a right, not a privilege.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

““When I saw what was happening and my eyes were opened,”

Better late than never. But as a man of God then his eyes should have been opened a long time ago.


25 posted on 07/31/2012 8:54:42 PM PDT by Revel
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To: workerbee

If you listen carefully, I think you will find that the people the Archbishop was saying are “all in this together” are Catholic and non-Catholic Christians. He is not saying that believers, Pelosi, and Obama are “all in this together.” He knows that Pelosi and Obama are the enemies of the Church and of all Americans.

The Church is not “political” in the sense that it is not an instrument of any political party. The Church speaks with its own authority.

The Church condemns everything the Democratic Party promotes. But the Church is not campaigning on behalf of Republicans. It merely points out the obvious truth that anyone who votes for a Democrat, given the current nature of the Democratic Party, is going to Hell.


26 posted on 07/31/2012 9:10:40 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (In Edward Kennedy's America, federal funding of brothels is a right, not a privilege.)
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“She (Nancy Pelosi) was told back in January of 2007 by her Pastor not to receive.”

~ ~ ~

God bless Father Malloy. In 2008, Archbishop Joseph
Naumann publicly told Kathleen Sebelius not to come forward
to receive communion. This action is to help save their souls and both women since have gone further away.

And what about the traditional priest who was chastised
by his Bishop and moved because he refused to give communion
to a homosexual woman who flaunted her lifestyle?

That priest is brave...~~!!


27 posted on 07/31/2012 9:39:22 PM PDT by stpio (")
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Cor - heart
di - of
leone - lion

He will do just fine!


28 posted on 07/31/2012 9:47:05 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: mlizzy

You are correct.


29 posted on 07/31/2012 9:49:02 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

.....And to second American revolution.

God Bless this Archbishop.


30 posted on 08/01/2012 2:52:34 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: skeeter

Catholic chruch has NO balls or they would havepublicly excommunicated the likes of the Kennedys, Reids, Pelosis etc as soon as they supported the murdering of the unborn.


31 posted on 08/01/2012 3:09:40 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: pbear8

In truth and indeed, we must pray for our bishops and archbishops to speak bravely, as he has. It is better to stand bravely, no matter the consequences, for Our Lord and for the Truth.

You shall be in my prayers, Excellency.


32 posted on 08/01/2012 3:17:17 AM PDT by sayuncledave (et Verbum caro factum est (And the Word was made flesh))
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To: pbear8

In truth and indeed, we must pray for our bishops and archbishops to speak bravely, as he has. It is better to stand bravely, no matter the consequences, for Our Lord and for the Truth.

You shall be in my prayers, Excellency.


33 posted on 08/01/2012 3:17:35 AM PDT by sayuncledave (et Verbum caro factum est (And the Word was made flesh))
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To: Frank Sheed
He has been a leading spokesman for Catholic teachings on marriage and sexual morality and an outspoken opponent of same-sex marriage and civil unions. Pope Benedict XVI appointed Cordileone archbishop of San Francisco on Friday. Cordileone will formally take up that position on Oct. 4, the feast of St. Francis, the patron saint of San Francisco.

COR DI LEONE = Heart of a Lion, Italian

He is certainly going into the Lion's Den, considering his record. May Our Lord send His Angels to protect him in battle, I pray in the Name of Our Saviour Jesus Christ, Amen.

34 posted on 08/01/2012 3:20:34 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Joe Boucher

True. But Reid is a Mormon.


35 posted on 08/01/2012 5:45:01 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God." 1 Peter 4:17)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; ...
HT to Mrs. Don-o ...

Catholic Ping
Please freepmail me if you want on/off this list


36 posted on 08/01/2012 6:17:25 AM PDT by NYer (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? - St. Augustine)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Sorry, but I think you know what I mean.

Were I to come to Tenn. for a month in the RV, where would you suggest seeing?
Thanks


37 posted on 08/01/2012 7:18:12 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
“When I saw what was happening and my eyes were opened..."

that wasn't a problem for the bishops until it became apparent that the church was going to be held to the same rules that everybody else was. When they believed that Obamacare was for "them and not us", they were all for it.

I will withhold calling them hypocrites pending further discovery.

38 posted on 08/01/2012 8:47:54 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Woe to them...)
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To: pbear8

If you see him again, as him to pray to St, Ambrose. Ambrose had plenty of political smarts, and might be whispering in the archbishop’s ear.


39 posted on 08/01/2012 8:22:54 PM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: Arthur McGowan
The Church speaks with its own authority. Too many Catholics reject this proposition.
40 posted on 08/01/2012 8:25:34 PM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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