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Senate sets up cyber vote for Thursday, lawmakers still working on amendments (gun control still in)
The Hill ^ | July 31, 2012 | Ramsey Cox & Jennifer Martinez

Posted on 07/31/2012 6:58:28 PM PDT by jazusamo

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) on Tuesday filed a motion to end debate and proceed to the cybersecurity bill.

The move sets up a key vote Thursday, but it looks like Reid won't have the 60 votes necessary to move forward because of a fight with Republicans over amendments to the bill.

The two sides have been trying to reach a deal on what amendments will be considered, and Reid said he was disappointed that an agreement wasn’t reached Tuesday.

“To say I’m disappointed is a tremendous understatement,” Reid said Tuesday night. “I thought we’d all put national security above partisan politics.”

Reid put blame on the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.

“I’m terribly disappointed with the Chamber of Commerce,” Reid said. “The Chamber of Commerce has sucked in most Republicans on this bill.”

The Chamber objected to some of the security requirements for businesses, despite the fact that the bill's key backers, Sens. Joseph Liberman (I-Conn.) and Susan Collins (R-Maine) offered to make them voluntary.

Reid filled the tree with an amendment from Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) that would give Internet service providers and other private companies wider authority to monitor communications flowing through their information systems for cyber threats and use certain countermeasures to combat them.

Reid also included another amendment by Lieberman that would remove language from the bill that allows federal regulators to make voluntary cybersecurity standards for critical infrastructure operators mandatory.

“Inflexible positions are being taken,” Lieberman said as things began to look grim for his bill. “People are not wiling to come across political divides to address this problem.”

The Cybersecurity Act would increase cyber protections for the nation's electrical grid, financial networks, transportation system and other critical infrastructure.

Reid also criticized Republicans for offering non-germane amendments to the bill.

Earlier Tuesday, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) asked for a vote on an amendment to repeal the healthcare law. Reid refused, saying it was unrelated to the cyber bill. Another GOP amendment was offered by Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah) to restrict abortions in the District of Columbia.

“I was surprised to hear Sen. McConnell wanted a vote on repealing ObamaCare on this bill and that’s really inappropriate,” Reid said.

Collins said that enough time had already been spent on the bill.

“The Senate has had 25 hearings, how many more hearings, briefings and reports do we need,” Collins said. “I am amazed that we are letting the clock tick down when we know that it’s not a matter of if there is a cyber attack on this country it is a matter of when.”


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; cyberbill; guncontrol
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Neither The Hill nor Dingy Harry mentioned the amendment S.A. 2575 by Chuckie Schumer and other Rat sponsors that would make it illegal to transfer or possess large capacity feeding devices such as gun magazines is still an amendment to the bill, according to comments after the article.
1 posted on 07/31/2012 6:58:35 PM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo
“To say I’m disappointed is a tremendous understatement,” Reid said Tuesday night. “I thought we’d all put national security above partisan politics.”

The right of the people to keep and bear arms is the central core of national security. No national security bill is worth compromising that core God-given right.

2 posted on 07/31/2012 7:08:17 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: jazusamo

Transfer what you like in front of their faces and dare them to stop it. Simple as that.

Its time to be a little confrontational of these evil little dictators.


3 posted on 07/31/2012 7:13:42 PM PDT by Crazieman (Are you naive enough to think VOTING will fix this entrenched system?)
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To: jazusamo
You seen these yet?
@Obama ‘evaluates’ multiple gun control bills advanced by Senate Democrats
@Obama will 'evaluate' bill to ban online munition sales
4 posted on 07/31/2012 7:14:45 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: jazusamo
Reid also criticized Republicans for offering non-germane amendments to the bill.
As you noted, not a word about amendment S.A. 2575 and Reid has the audacity to say that!

How are gun magazines germane to cybersecurity?

5 posted on 07/31/2012 7:18:43 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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Thanks, Yes. I posted the original article and it was supposedly Laut and McCarthy sponsoring but I see now it’s Laut and Feinstein.


6 posted on 07/31/2012 7:22:28 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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How are gun magazines germane to cybersecurity?

LOL!

They're not, but Dingy Harry can lie almost as good as Zer0.

7 posted on 07/31/2012 7:24:46 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo
And whats being orchestrated by our republicrat saviors to stop this leftist crap?
8 posted on 07/31/2012 7:27:44 PM PDT by nomad
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To: nomad

I’d guess it’ll be dead in the House, at least it better be.


9 posted on 07/31/2012 7:31:12 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

FBHO and his harem.


10 posted on 07/31/2012 7:31:51 PM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba (This Message Contains Privileged Attorney-Client Communications)
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11 posted on 07/31/2012 7:32:31 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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“How are gun magazines germane to cybersecurity?”

Someone might throw one at a computer screen...otherwise, PHUCK that corrupt, lying sleazeball, Dingy Harry.

Oh, and didn’t the NRA back this guy? If so, they were HAD!


12 posted on 07/31/2012 8:44:45 PM PDT by Ancesthntr (Bibi to Odumbo: Its not going to happen.)
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To: philman_36

Democrats always accuse others of what they are doing. It is standard operating procedure. The problem is that their followers are way Tooooo Stupid to figure it out.


13 posted on 07/31/2012 8:56:30 PM PDT by Revel
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To: Ancesthntr
Oh, and didn’t the NRA back this guy?

Oh, they thought it was a good idea and they courted him.
@EDITORIAL: NRA mans up to Harry Reid September 2, 2010
It was no easy call for the NRA to withhold support from a friend, but it shunned Mr. Reid because he turned his back on the Second Amendment where it counts most: in the Supreme Court.
(if they call him a friend they're no friend of mine)

In the end...
@No NRA Endorsement for Reid in Nevada Senate Race

Of interest and an indication of how soon we forget...from the www.washingtontimes.com article.
This week’s hostage standoff at the Discovery Channel headquarters in Maryland offers a scary reminder why it’s important for Americans to be able to own and carry firearms. When the public is packing heat, it’s more dangerous for deranged criminals to threaten innocent life because individuals can defend themselves.

In light of the movie shooting...some people never learn.

14 posted on 07/31/2012 9:06:14 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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I just bought ten Tapco 30 round 7.62X39 at CTD. You can never have too many magazines when the DimO’crats are in high dudgeon. At $5.90 @ pop, too good to pass up. I remember the Boy Clinton days when a Browning Hi-power 13 round mag had a $100 asking price. Screw them and the donkey they rode in on.
Nov. 5 can’t come fast enough.


15 posted on 07/31/2012 9:09:55 PM PDT by tumblindice (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Revel
The problem is that their followers are way Tooooo Stupid to figure it out.

Some of the "die hard, good old boy Democrats" are still smart enough to know that there's an effort afoot to take away their "big mags" and they ain't too happy right now.
I'm amazed at how quick this story has been getting around.

16 posted on 07/31/2012 9:11:05 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: tumblindice
Screw them and the donkey they rode in on.
They're screwing themselves all right.

See 16. The "word on the street" isn't helping them.

I thought I was informing some people about what was going on and I got schooled.

17 posted on 07/31/2012 9:14:40 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

Well my neck is so red you could even say it glows and I don’t trust Obama & Co. to not toss some presidential gun-grabbing edict out, if they can’t get it through Congress.
I keep hoping Dingy Harry will break down and grab that third rail, but even he’s not that stupid. IMHO even running the often only life-like Romney, the GOP will keep what it took in 2008 and add Indiana
http://elections.nytimes.com/2008/results/president/map.html
along with a number of other states of mind where guys like me chew Skoal while we shower. The bloom is definitely off the rose for The Won. And they know it.


18 posted on 07/31/2012 9:27:23 PM PDT by tumblindice (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: jazusamo; All
The Democrats are doing us a big favor by pushing more gun control just before the election.

Sun Tsu wrote something to the effect of: Don't stop your opponent when he is in the process of making a big error.

I think that applies to this amendment.

Get the Democrats on record as voting for it.

19 posted on 08/01/2012 6:40:32 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Agreed, and it’s making some Dems very nervous.


20 posted on 08/01/2012 8:31:08 AM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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