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Jerry Brown may be the issue in California's tax initiative duel
Sacramento Bee ^ | 7/31/12 | Dan Walters

Posted on 07/31/2012 7:10:54 PM PDT by SmithL

Gov. Jerry Brown released an Internet ad the other day, asking voters to embrace his multibillion-dollar tax increase.

But the word "tax" is nowhere to be found. The closest Brown or other speakers in the tightly scripted ad come to the T-word is "new revenues." Mostly, it touts Brown's efforts to cut state spending and declares – wrongly – that the state's credit rating has improved.

"We've made progress, but we still have very serious budget problems in California," Brown says in the ad. "We simply have to take a stand against further budget cuts for schools or for our public safety. To do that, we're going to the people."

Opponents of Proposition 30, which would raise sales taxes slightly on everyone, and income taxes sharply on high-income Californians, don't shy away from "tax."

"Sacramento politicians have turned their backs on education and public safety and voted to waste billions on the largest boondoggle in American history," Jon Coupal, president of the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association, says in a new anti-Proposition 30 radio spot.

"These same politicians are using scare tactics to force tax increases on the working people of California. While they push for more taxes, frivolous spending and political cronyism, they ignore desperately needed reforms to education, pensions and spending."

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; goldenstate; moonbeam; proposition30; taxandspend; yourtaxdollarsatwork

1 posted on 07/31/2012 7:11:10 PM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

I always vote “no” on tax increases.


2 posted on 07/31/2012 7:26:48 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: SmithL

Hey MoonBeam—get with the new Progressive lingo— call it a fee or penalties raised. Your Dems love ‘Taxes’ but hate the word. Therefore subterfuge the issue like a good, hideous leftist.


3 posted on 07/31/2012 7:46:46 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: SmithL
"We've made progress, but we still have very serious budget problems in California," Brown says in the ad. "We simply have to take a stand against further budget cuts for schools or for our public safety unions. To do that, we're going to the people."
4 posted on 07/31/2012 7:55:18 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: SmithL

But we are getting a Bullet Train!


5 posted on 07/31/2012 8:00:34 PM PDT by Mark (Don't argue with my posts. I typed while under sniper fire.)
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To: SmithL
Jerry and Prop. 30 are dead men walking. Both will run into the election slogan, "Kill the train to nowhere. Vote NO on Proposition 30."

Jerry killed himself and it getting the train to nowhere through. Madera and Bakersfield might as well be Fresno.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fresno_(TV_miniseries)

6 posted on 07/31/2012 8:02:20 PM PDT by Thud
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To: Mark

And Sacramento gave itself big raises.


7 posted on 07/31/2012 8:10:37 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: SmithL
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8 posted on 07/31/2012 8:16:17 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("Ambition Without Talent Is Sad - Talent Without Ambition Is Worse")
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To: Signalman

Vote no on bond issues too -a tax by another name.


9 posted on 07/31/2012 9:00:31 PM PDT by Argus
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To: SmithL

Brown is a joke-—but the worst thing he is doing is sexualizing children through perverted, lying curricula—to normalize sodomy in kindergarteners—like they did/do in the cultures that glorify pederasty and have slavery and women are chattel (Ancient Greeks and Rome, Samurai, Afghanistan).

All parents who think it is wise to sexualize children—should look at boys who were sodomized (and the worldview of girls who were molested in childhood by a lesbian, like Chastity Bono). Their realities are so warped and sick, they can not function how they were designed to—by God. Their anger at God makes them sick and vicious and intolerant. They are the most hateful, fascists alive-—as the Chick Fil A incident proves.

Homosexuality is learned-—through abuse of children.....It is a sick behavior to teach children that this sick Vice is normal and “good”. Brown needs to be in hell for what he is doing to California children’s worldview. Teaching them dysfunctional, evil behavior is good—will create psychopaths and immoral people who think it is good to debase and dehumanize other human beings.
He is teaching them the morality of Satan.

It is not an accident that Hitler was a homosexual-—or that the SA Brownshirts were homosexual and the Hitler Youth was used for their homosexual orgies-—like John Maynard Keynes and his Fabian Socialists did-—when they also were castrating boys and the press glorified and deified these evil people and promote perverted Keynesian economics in our schools.

Worldview matters. Ideas that shape the reality of children are crucial. The corruption of children is seen today in Afghanistan where boys want to have harems of boys. Such sick ideas to corrupt the innocence of children—is intentional-—to destroy our civil society (Herbert Marcuse). Get the minds of the children and you own the future (Lenin).

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheHateCrimeFiles/message/6019


10 posted on 07/31/2012 9:03:26 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: Thud
"Kill the train to nowhere. Vote NO on Proposition 30."

Some clever dude, right here in FR (and I can't recall his screen name), coined the term for the bullet train...

SCAM TRACK.

Doncha just love it?

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11 posted on 07/31/2012 9:45:08 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: SmithL

A couple of comments at the SacBee article. Merrill19 said: You think rich folks will stay around to be taxed? As for Jerry Brown I stopped taking him seriously when he signed the bill for the high speed rail system. Now he is just another tax and spend liberal who lied to us during the election.

itoldyou replied: I just don’t want the gov to get anymore money or not even as much as they get now. It is counter productive. More money encourages them to pass more laws and interfere with us.


12 posted on 07/31/2012 11:10:34 PM PDT by Hokestuk
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To: SmithL

Brown’s hoped-for tax increases are going to get slaughtered. Even idiot Californians are in no mood to raise taxes on themselves in an economic depression.

Brown is going to get crushed. He promises deep cuts in government spending in that event. I’ll believe it when I see it.


13 posted on 08/01/2012 12:28:42 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: savagesusie
And TV is playing a strong role in creating new fags and dykes. Look for a bombardment of fag TV programs. To date, every show has at least one faggot on cast, but they are the friend or confidant, etc. They will now be front and center. The shows will feature the faggots and faggot families.

The extended fagmily below.


14 posted on 08/01/2012 12:36:46 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: SmithL

To all Californians — vote no on the tax increases.

Even Brown knows that if the tax increases fail, he will finally have to perform radical surgery, to wit:

* Cut the pension benefits of government union employees
* Lay off government union employees
* Scale back enforcement of state regulations
* Allow for the drilling of offshore oil (generates royalties for the state — Brown’s not stupid and he knows this is a very lucrative source of potential revenue, having said as much in an interview last year)
* Pass some business-friendly legislation

Please vote no and help create the tsunami that will engulf Sacramento.


15 posted on 08/01/2012 11:31:36 AM PDT by tom h
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To: Signalman

We have to vote no. I vote no on everything to do with raising or spending money. No bonds. No taxes. No fees. Doesn’t matter if its a sin tax or not I vote no. I figure if it is really worthwhile the politicians would allocate it in Sacto and not ask the people. Besides, the state has plenty of money to provide the services we need but chooses to spend it on salaries and pensions instead of services. The state is also incredibly wealthy. It owns I don’t know how many hundreds of billions of dollars in land and property. Plus the university endowments. They don’t need to raise taxes they need to make government more efficient. Provide the same services with fewer people or at lower cost. Businesses do that. So can the state. Sorry that that means less voters on the payroll but if the state squeezes any more we will get crushed.


16 posted on 08/02/2012 12:32:28 AM PDT by monkeyshine
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