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TSPLOST LOST (Metro Atlanta Resoundingly Rejects 1% Sales Tax)
GA Secretary of State ^ | 8/1/2012 | GA Secretary of State

Posted on 08/01/2012 4:11:21 AM PDT by from occupied ga

Atlanta Metro area rejects a massive tax increase (an additional one percent sales tax on the existing 6% - 8% around the metro area.) The county by county results are as follows:

County YES NO Total Ratio yes/total
Cherokee 9105 35280 44,385 20.51%
Clayton 16750 19303 36,053 46.46%
Cobb 38703 85412 124,115 31.18%
DeKalb 57915 61792 119,707 48.38%
Douglas 6383 13534 19,917 32.05%
Fayette 6677 21712 28,389 23.52%
Fulton 69064 72365 141,429 48.83%
Gwinnett 28884 70273 99,157 29.13%
Henry 9405 23371 32,776 28.69%
Rockdale 5433 12484 17,917 30.32%
Total: 248,319 415,526 663,845 37.41%


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: georgia; salestax; taxincrease; tsplost
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To: The Sons of Liberty
In all the ads, the crooked pols in Atlanta never explained where the billions they already have are going, or what they were going to do with the extra cash if TSPLOST passed.

If you could find out WHO paid for the ads pushing the atrocity, you would see WHERE the dollars are going. The rancidly corrupt Reed administration would funnel it to his suporters who would then funnel a tithe of it back to him in "campaign cvonributions"

21 posted on 08/01/2012 7:09:14 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: from occupied ga
The special interests pulled out all the stops to try and ram this down our throats...

Not just special interest groups. The fix was in by the potical and economic kingpins of Atlanta. The ballot question itself read like an advertisement for creating new jobs and better commute times. Big business like Office Depo and Cox had donated $10MM toward the effort, including free billboards and TV ads. The financially insular CEO of our own Fortune 500 company used the quarterly employee meeting as an infomercial to try to convince us all that we should vote for the T-SPLAT-- replete with guest appearances from the town mayor and the campaign organizer. They had their talking points down about how this would not be like the lies surrounding the use and duration of GA 400 toll booth when it was voted in years ago. The one brave soul who dissented in the meeting was cut off at the knees.

I wondered, "Now, what's in it for the CEO? Special local tax breaks for the company? "Economic development funds" largesse when a commuter light rail is placed nearby? Personal influence? Or some combination of the 3?"

Anyway, I'm delighted he did not get his way on the backs of his underpaid workers. But even with this landslide, I doubt that he and his political cronies will ever get the message of just how sick we are of government avarice and deception. But this vote makes me proud of Atlanta this morning.

22 posted on 08/01/2012 7:20:28 AM PDT by mikeus_maximus (I won't vote for Romney, period. Voting for "the lesser of two evils" is still voting for evil.)
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To: Trailerpark Badass
administered by a board of “citizens,”

The board of citizens was real. The only problem is that they had no more veto power over the spending than you or I do. The bureaucrats and politicians had total control. This was just another lie by the bureaucrats to get their hands on our hard earned money.

23 posted on 08/01/2012 7:33:58 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: mikeus_maximus
The ballot question itself read like an advertisement for creating new jobs and better commute times.

Did it ever. Like we could tax ourselves into prosperity. I guess we could tax ourselves into prosperity for the kingpins behind this blatant attempt at robbery. If anyone on this thread has not already read Bastiat's That Which is Seen, and That Which is Not Seen this give a good explanation as wto why job creaton by taxation is a complete lie.

24 posted on 08/01/2012 7:40:20 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: mikeus_maximus
I wondered, "Now, what's in it for the CEO? Special local tax breaks for the company? "Economic development funds" largesse when a commuter light rail is placed nearby? Personal influence? Or some combination of the 3?"

Our grande frommage did the same. Special employee meeting (voluntary attendence - I passed)to push the thing encouraging employees to :volunteer" to drum up the yes vote. I also wondered what was in it for him, because if he had the sense God gave a gnat he would have known that it would be bad for our business - consumers have less to spend on our products and services when they're paying more taxes. I am SO RELIEVED THAT THIS POS WENT DOWN IN FLAMES.

The only problem is that they'll be back again looking to loot us some more in two years. Politicians just don't get it. Until they lose an election to someone who opposes this endless government spending they'll keep it up.

Along those lines, Judy Manning, an anti-gun Republican, lost. I THINK she came out in favor of the tax. One of my friends told me that she did, but I don't really know. I do know that a few republicans around the state who were pushing the tax lost their re-elecion bids.

25 posted on 08/01/2012 8:06:35 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: from occupied ga

The graph of city densities at traffictruth.net told the tale. More rail is insanity in Atlanta just because of that, and they weren’t even going to be building much new rail, just maintaining what they have with a huge new tax.

Go to the 4th slide here.
http://www.traffictruth.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/DebatePanel.slides.pdf

Anyone with half a brain who understands 1/10th of what this means knows rail is a loser.


26 posted on 08/02/2012 4:00:46 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: mikesmad

Your numbers are way off. Get the gasoline taxes map from this page:

http://www.api.org/Oil-and-Natural-Gas-Overview/Industry-Economics/Fuel-Taxes.aspx

GA is 7.7 cents more than AL, 9.8 more than MS, 7.2 more than TN on taxes.

TN is way behind the curve on highway construction. I-75 should be 3 lanes each way all the way through the state; it is not. I-24 should be 3 lanes each way all the way from Nashville to Chattanooga; it drops to two lanes in Murfreesboro.


27 posted on 08/02/2012 4:08:31 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: from occupied ga

One of my friends did a bunch of the engineering design on the new International land side terminal at Hartsfield several years back. He had some sweetheart deal stories on that thing that would curl your hair.


28 posted on 08/02/2012 4:12:09 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster
some sweetheart deal stories

Like the way the concessions at the airport were handed out to Reed supporters?

29 posted on 08/02/2012 4:31:28 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: from occupied ga

This was more on the construction side. Things like transaction counters that should have been $5k-7k each costing $20k, that sort of thing.


30 posted on 08/02/2012 4:40:02 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster

When you’re dealing with a city run by black democrats no tale of corruption, incompetence, or outright theft of taxpayer dollars is beyond belief


31 posted on 08/02/2012 4:59:06 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: FreedomPoster
Thanks for the link.

I don't drive I-75 through TN enough to have a strong opinion but I do drive it several times a year and I have never experienced an issue where I thought it SHOULD be 3 lanes. Never have used I-24 but I have heard horror stories about that. I basically hit Memphis via GA/AL/MS so other than the city of Memphis I did not travel through TN.

Yesterday I still paid 25 cents more per gallon than my friend paid 35 miles away across the AL border. Cities of basically the same size both on the same interstate. MS I don't know.

When I look at the project list for my region the first thing that pops out is the Columbus Riverwalk. Why is transportation money designated for something that has nothing to do with transportation, nothing to do with easing traffic, or nothing to do with reducing commute times? I look at the few projects in my county and at times they would be useful but are definitely not NEEDED especially in the economic times we are in.

I still think there is plenty of money today to do what is necessary and a few things that could build for the future. This was all about getting a huge pile of money for politicians to use to buy votes (look what I did for you) and to benefit a few financially.
32 posted on 08/02/2012 5:19:42 AM PDT by mikesmad
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To: FreedomPoster

I am going to try to dig through this site some this weekend but all of this is weighted averages. I wonder if they take into account that Georgia’s tax on gas is not fixed. It goes up as the price of gas goes up thanks to our republican legislators. So we never really know the exact amount.


33 posted on 08/02/2012 5:36:46 AM PDT by mikesmad
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To: mikesmad

Sorry, I meant to say the percentage goes up as the price goes up.


34 posted on 08/02/2012 5:37:43 AM PDT by mikesmad
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To: mikesmad

I was wondering if maybe part of it might be because of special formulations required by EPA because of Atlanta with the requirements ending at the AL line.


35 posted on 08/02/2012 10:05:34 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster

Who knows the market is so screwed up and regulated it is impossible to really know what anythings true cost is and how much the government adds on top of that in taxes, fees, and just red tape costs to businesses.


36 posted on 08/02/2012 11:09:10 AM PDT by mikesmad
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