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My strictly kosher experience at Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day (A Chicago Jew joins appreciation day)
American Thinker ^ | 08/02/2012 | Ethel C. Fenig

Posted on 08/02/2012 7:10:05 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Although I am a native Chicagoan who has lived in the city for many years apparently I am not a good citizen according to our mayor, Rahm Emanuel (D). By his description, I lack Chicago values.

Guilty! I am so respectful of my fellow neighbors and other residents that I have never murdered any of them nor have I bribed any city, county or state employee, all standard behavior and practices in our city. I also believe in the US Constitution, including the sections guaranteeing the free exercise of religion and freedom of speech which, according to the mayor and one of his alderman, are available only to those who agree with the mayor.

I have other political, philosophical, economic and religious differences with the mayor. While I respect his right to his opinions, if I wanted to open a business in the city--highly unlikely given the red tape and other complications--he would be able to stop me simply because he disagreed with me.

As a Jew who knows how easy it is to be marginalized and then criminalized, the mayor's thuggery towards Chick-fil-A worried me. And so I decided to participate in Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day to stand up for diversity, pluralism and multi culturalism. But there was a major problem: I keep kosher, biblically mandated Jewish food rules (don't ask), but the restaurant is definitely not kosher so normally I would avoid it. But I resolved that problem by deciding to order just a diet soft drink, skipping their specialty cuisine. I brought along an apple and some nuts to round out my meal.

And so off I went to the city franchise in the heart of the city, near universities, businesses, shopping and tourist attractions. There was a long line which moved quickly, the people were friendly.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: aar; chicago; chickfila; homosexualagenda; jew; kosher; liberalfascism; rahm

1 posted on 08/02/2012 7:10:18 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

oohrah!


2 posted on 08/02/2012 7:16:08 AM PDT by 12Gauge687
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To: SeekAndFind

I realize kosher rules can get complicated, but couldn’t she have had a milkshake? (Maybe she’s dieting ;-).


3 posted on 08/02/2012 7:17:12 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Live in such a way that your life would not make sense if God did not exist.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Bless you, Ms. Fenig; and thank you.


4 posted on 08/02/2012 7:18:14 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Re-distribute my work ethic, not my wealth.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Now there’s a niche market opportunity; for heavily Jewish neighborhoods, a Kosher version of Ciick-fil-A!


5 posted on 08/02/2012 7:19:44 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Now there’s a niche market opportunity; for heavily Jewish neighborhoods, a Kosher version of Chick-fil-A!


6 posted on 08/02/2012 7:20:11 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: SeekAndFind
You lack Chicago values= so I didn't do any drive by’s or rape an 84 year old woman, refuse legitimate business people permission to open because I disagree with their religious values.
7 posted on 08/02/2012 7:21:24 AM PDT by THE_RAIDER
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To: Tax-chick

Nope


8 posted on 08/02/2012 7:27:31 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: Tax-chick

Could have had waffle fries and a milkshake.


9 posted on 08/02/2012 7:28:54 AM PDT by Codeflier (Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama - 4 democrat presidents in a row and counting...)
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To: US Navy Vet

We have several Jewish people here at the office that keep Kosher. They routinely order waffle fries and a shake for lunch when we go to Chik-Fil-A.


10 posted on 08/02/2012 7:33:02 AM PDT by Codeflier (Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama - 4 democrat presidents in a row and counting...)
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To: Tax-chick

Kosher Rules:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosher_foods


11 posted on 08/02/2012 7:39:40 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: SeekAndFind
New customers continued to arrive, the media interviewed the passing crowd. Read more:
WOW! Reporters actually showed up at a substantial local gathering not promoting discord?!!

They sure were nowhere in sight during the gathering at the Mall back in September ’09 when we were in Washington in our hundreds of thousands . . .


12 posted on 08/02/2012 7:40:54 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which “liberalism" coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: Codeflier

Perhaps they aren’t kosher ENOUGH.

Years ago, while working in a hospital, we had a rabbi who was considered one of the great scholars (I wish I had copied down his name.) It was my job to supply dinners, and he refused all our kosher food, which was disturbing to me (I, of course, was worried about his health!).

His wife brought it in other days and on the Sabbath he simply fasted. They spent some time explaining it to me but what it came down to, was the food simply couldn’t be properly kosher.


13 posted on 08/02/2012 7:46:48 AM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: SeekAndFind
. . . nor were they in evidence at our local Chick-fil-A here, which is pretty distant from any others, and which had customers unable to park, lined up onto the access highway. I hadn’t been to a Chick-fil-A before, as I’m sure was the case with legions of the customers they had nationwide on 8/1/12. I’ll probably go again, and I doubt that is unique to me, either . . .

14 posted on 08/02/2012 7:48:34 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which “liberalism" coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: JimRed

“a Kosher version of Ciick-fil-A!”

Chick-fil-Oy? ;)


15 posted on 08/02/2012 7:51:50 AM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (EAT MOR CHIKIN)
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To: US Navy Vet

I certainly respect this lady for her friendly, modest, and even rhetorically understated report. I wish I could meet her and thank her personally. She’s a good example to us all. And kosher in more ways than one.


16 posted on 08/02/2012 7:55:03 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("When you come to a fork in the road, take it." - Yogi Berra)
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To: ZirconEncrustedTweezers
Chick-fil-Oy?
Matzo-fil-A?
17 posted on 08/02/2012 8:03:56 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: I still care

The Rabbi was observing ‘glat kosher’ rules. Think more sothan the local kosher restaurant, much more so.

As for the differences, think “tedious”.


18 posted on 08/02/2012 8:27:53 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: SeekAndFind

Chicago is the home of Communism in America. Indeed, one make quite a case for Chicago being more commie than the Big Sh*tty, AKA New York City.

As one of AMerican born into a Jewish family, the thinly disguised Communism of Rham Emanuel makes me acutly aware that America is neither Communist, nor is it likely to remain forever tolerant of Commies trying to destroy America.

Make no mistake, Obama, Rahm, and the entire bunch of commies in agencies and academia, are trying to destroy America.

Fortunately, the “Cluck Heard ‘Round The World” is proof of American Communist’s Yamamoto Moment. Whether the Commies understood remains to be seen.

All over America, the Americans awoke, and discovered they were the vast majority.

I do hope the Jewish lady in the article can make clear to her co-religionists what happened at Chick-fil-A’s yesterday.


19 posted on 08/02/2012 8:36:32 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: GladesGuru

A rabbi I knew told me that Kashrut was G-d’s way of protecting His people in the days before modern sanitation & refrigeration, but that keeping kosher nowadays is still a worthy spiritual exercise for staying focused on G-d’s will.

He went on to cite Maimonides’ observation that the Law was never intended to interfere with human life. If nonkosher food is all stands between survival and death by starvation, the rebbe said by all means choose the former.

Wonder how difficult it would be to offer kosher items at Chick Fil-A? A Jewish friend told me once she traveled to Atlanta to buy Pepperidge Farms frozen chicken certified kosher. A portion of the CF-A kitchen under rabbinical supervision? Not unfeasable, IMO.


20 posted on 08/02/2012 8:41:40 AM PDT by elcid1970 (Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind. Deus vult!)
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To: elcid1970

“If nonkosher food is all.. THAT.. stands between survival and death by starvation, the rebbe said by all means choose the former.”

Geez......


21 posted on 08/02/2012 8:43:37 AM PDT by elcid1970 (Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind. Deus vult!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I hope Mr. Cathy has the good sense to send a large platter of nuggets today to Mr. Emmanuel’s office. With a copy of the Constitution.


22 posted on 08/02/2012 8:44:22 AM PDT by Romulus
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To: JimRed

“Now there’s a niche market opportunity; for heavily Jewish neighborhoods, a Kosher version of Ciick-fil-A!”

I’ve been saying that for a while now. It’s a natural fit.

KFC did this in Israel, to great effect, changing the milk-based batter to a soy batter. I suspect there is milk in the bread products, as well.

Have to be closed on Shabbos, of course.*

* Another opportunity, as people drive to the Jewish neighborhood to get their Chick-fil-A.


23 posted on 08/02/2012 8:57:57 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Codeflier

“Could have had waffle fries and a milkshake.”

Perhaps. To be strictly kosher, there needs to be some sort of professional oversite, although I’ve satisfied myself something is kosher in a pinch, as well.

I’d be worried about a non-certified-kosher CFL because grease is so often a pig-product, or grease from bacon (which is cooked there) is judicially saved by pouring into the otherwise-vegitable order.

You can also end up with geletin or stabilizers from cow bone in things like milkshakes.


24 posted on 08/02/2012 9:02:11 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: SeekAndFind; SJackson
As a Jew who knows how easy it is to be marginalized and then criminalized, the mayor's thuggery towards Chick-fil-A worried me. And so I decided to participate in Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day to stand up for diversity, pluralism and multi culturalism.

Beautiful post, Seek - thanks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m90FsST_1p4&feature=youtu.be

25 posted on 08/02/2012 9:02:20 AM PDT by GOPJ (Political correctness is simply George Orwell's Newspeak by a non-threatening name. FR- Bernard Marx)
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To: elcid1970

“Wonder how difficult it would be to offer kosher items at Chick Fil-A?”

It really needs to be all-or-nothing kosher for most who keep kosher.

So no bacon-wrapped egg.

Milkshakes may have to go, too, although given the disposable nature of the utensils, there may be a work-through here.


26 posted on 08/02/2012 9:05:49 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Jewbacca
Have to be closed on Shabbos, of course.*

* Another opportunity, as people drive to the Jewish neighborhood to get their Chick-fil-A.


BRILLIANT - I LOVE IT!
27 posted on 08/02/2012 9:29:23 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("When you come to a fork in the road, take it." - Yogi Berra)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

It really is an opportunity.

There is a large Jewish population in Brookline, MA (part of greater Boston). A kosher CFL would work well there and get a lot of student traffic from MIT (my school), BU and BC.

It’s a tremendous opportunity.


28 posted on 08/02/2012 9:37:15 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Codeflier; Tax-chick

First, strict Jews would avoid places where dairy and meat products can come in contact with each other.

The milkshake formula might have all sorts of crazy stuff in it, so that would be risky at best.

Fries are often cooked in oil flavored with beef tallow, making it a no go. If the same fryer is used for deep fried non-kosher chicken, a double no-go.

The soda is the safest bet. It would be better still if it came in a sealed bottle or can.


29 posted on 08/02/2012 9:48:27 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("I love to hear you talk talk talk, but I hate what I hear you say."-Del Shannon)
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To: I still care

Might it have been the Rabbi Schneerson?


30 posted on 08/02/2012 9:50:55 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("I love to hear you talk talk talk, but I hate what I hear you say."-Del Shannon)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Okay, that makes sense. Thank you for the additional information.


31 posted on 08/02/2012 9:54:33 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Live in such a way that your life would not make sense if God did not exist.)
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To: elcid1970
Wonder how difficult it would be to offer kosher items at Chick Fil-A? A Jewish friend told me once she traveled to Atlanta to buy Pepperidge Farms frozen chicken certified kosher. A portion of the CF-A kitchen under rabbinical supervision? Not unfeasable, IMO.

I think the only way to do it is the same way they do it on airplanes. Get the whole thing manufactured in kosher facility, wrapped in several layers of cellophane with all of the necessary rabbinical seals. It would probably be best to have a dedicated microwave just for said items. This means the whole meal is downgraded to Denny's/Swanson level, but kosher!
32 posted on 08/02/2012 10:30:16 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("I love to hear you talk talk talk, but I hate what I hear you say."-Del Shannon)
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To: JimRed

Now there’s a niche market opportunity; for heavily Jewish neighborhoods, a Kosher version of Chick-fil-A!

dibs on the name: Chick-OY-VEY!

closed saturdays


33 posted on 08/02/2012 11:50:25 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: JimRed

I was lamenting the fact that the chain is not kosher and that they don’t have any kosher outlets. If they did, I would have been there in a heartbeat. G-d bless Mr. Cathy and all the decent people that showed up to support his right to hold religious values sacred.


34 posted on 08/02/2012 4:10:53 PM PDT by JewishRighter (Anybody but Hussein)
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35 posted on 08/02/2012 4:16:22 PM PDT by SJackson (I used to eat a lot of natural foods until I learned that most people people die of natural causes)
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To: Codeflier

Not bashing anyone’s standards, but some folks make allowances for things that aren’t really kosher. I suppose they’re just doing the best they can or the best they know. But I think it is important not to leave the impression for anyone who might be reading that fries (and possibly milkshakes) at any non-kosher restaurant are very, very likely not kosher.

There are all kinds of problems with anything deep-fried in a non-kosher restaurant because the oils tend to be lard-based or they might use the same equipment for cooking non-kosher meat or poultry in the same oil.


36 posted on 08/02/2012 4:19:38 PM PDT by JewishRighter (Anybody but Hussein)
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To: Dr. Sivana

I’ve seen pictures of that particular Rabbi, and I don’t think so, and at the time, I wasn’t aware of the names, so I don’t remember it.

However, he had that “following” that Rabbis of such repute had. Greatly loved by his people.


37 posted on 08/03/2012 3:47:33 AM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: I still care

That’s really not uncomon. I tend to pack my food everywhere.

I travel a lot, so sometimes I end up with a an extra suitcase -— of homemade food.


38 posted on 08/03/2012 8:29:08 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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