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Man leaves plane after dispute over his saggy pants
Chicago Tribune ^ | August 1, 2012 | Ellen Jean Hirst

Posted on 08/02/2012 7:44:56 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement

A man was kicked off a Spirit Airlines flight atO'Hare International Airport over the weekend after he became "verbally abusive" to flight attendants who asked him to pull up his sagging pants, an airline spokeswoman said.

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: aviation; pants; spirit
Same thing happens on "Hardcore Pawn" absent the saggy pants request.
1 posted on 08/02/2012 7:45:01 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement
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To: ConservativeStatement

Looking like a fool with your pants on the ground....


2 posted on 08/02/2012 7:46:48 AM PDT by goseminoles
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To: goseminoles

Idiots who run around like this deserve to be run in! They gangstas!

3 posted on 08/02/2012 7:50:13 AM PDT by IbJensen (If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed)
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To: IbJensen

Ready to be raped in prison....dummies.


4 posted on 08/02/2012 7:56:54 AM PDT by brwnsuga (Free, Black, Conservative and Proud)
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To: IbJensen

Ready to be raped in prison....dummies.


5 posted on 08/02/2012 7:57:16 AM PDT by brwnsuga (Free, Black, Conservative and Proud)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Here’s my big but. I think the pants thing is indeed stupid, BUT if he made it through security, what reason did they have for making him pull them up?


6 posted on 08/02/2012 8:08:42 AM PDT by 1raider1
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To: IbJensen

Aren’t those gangsta’s saying, “Come git some dis buttie!”


7 posted on 08/02/2012 8:13:39 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: 1raider1
BUT if he made it through security, what reason did they have for making him pull them up?

How about the airline did not want this man's filthy drawers on their upholstery? Would you want to sit in that seat after someone like that sat there? I know I wouldn't.

8 posted on 08/02/2012 8:14:24 AM PDT by South40 ("Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance." Hussein Obama, Cairo, Egypt, June 4, 2009)
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To: IbJensen

Actually, it is better that these potential criminals wear their pants like this. It is far easier to apprehend them when running away from the police.


9 posted on 08/02/2012 8:19:49 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: 1raider1
Maybe he pulled the pants higher through security then dropped them? Perhaps the flight crew thought it was a potential security issue? I was on a flight where a passenger, who wear high heel shoes, was asked to remove them because she sat in an emergency exit row.
10 posted on 08/02/2012 8:24:16 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement (Obama "acted stupidly.")
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To: ConservativeStatement

The airline has every right to have a dress code.

More power to them.


11 posted on 08/02/2012 8:27:02 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: ConservativeStatement

Thanks for your responses, but you gave me YOUR reasons for not letting him board. Can either of you please answer my actual question and tell me why the flight attendants stopped him if he was cleared to fly by TSA?


12 posted on 08/02/2012 8:29:33 AM PDT by 1raider1
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To: Da Coyote

Dirty Diaper Syndrome. You know, like the 2 year old running around with a diaper full of crap sagging down to their knees. Makes me want to ask, ‘didn’t you make it to the toilet in time’?


13 posted on 08/02/2012 8:31:08 AM PDT by 429CJ (.)
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To: 1raider1

Because decency standards on private property are higher than Federal Government standards?


14 posted on 08/02/2012 8:36:06 AM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (Your tattoo looks stupid.)
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To: ConservativeStatement
Pants On The Ground Pictures, Images and Photos
15 posted on 08/02/2012 8:36:57 AM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: 1raider1

Maybe approaching security, he wore his pants in a customary position then lowered them post-security to a position the in-flight crew felt was indecent. That is from the spokesperson of the airlines: “We have a lot of customers on the plane, a lot of children on the plane.”


16 posted on 08/02/2012 8:37:56 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement (Obama "acted stupidly.")
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To: ConservativeStatement

Actually the ‘saggy pants’ style was ‘invented’ by people of me and my ilk.

See, for years (up till 50) I was able to walk into a store and buy trousers off the rack, 34/30, have a perfect snug fit, dress the comfortable side etc.

Well, I still claim to wear 34/30 but I have noticed that the legs are very much longer than they used to be and go by the theory “There is a 34 down there somewhere”, hence the 34 being found around the ‘upper thigh’ area these days.


17 posted on 08/02/2012 8:38:10 AM PDT by xrmusn (6/98 "It is virtually impossible to clean the pond as long as the pigs are still crapping in it")
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To: 1raider1

Private company, their rules; Mr. saggy ants has to abide by them whether he likes it or not. Reasons could be many and varied; doesn’t matter, though, as long as they are not discriminatory. Last I heard droopy drawers was not a qualification for any of the myriad of protected classes. I am sure obama and holder are working feverishly to remedy that, though.

Simple fact is that Mr. Saggy pants has to abide by their rules; whether he likes it or not.


18 posted on 08/02/2012 8:39:29 AM PDT by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: xrmusn

“...kicked off...” Good. Good for Spirit. Man/child. Pull up you pants, turn that hat around and, by the way, get a job. Fool. Look like a fool. “See wha ‘m sayin’?” My god.


19 posted on 08/02/2012 8:44:41 AM PDT by Minnesota fox
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To: Turbo Pig; ConservativeStatement; Tea Party Terrorist; South40

Thanks again to all who played this guessing game. The fact remains, anyone who has flown in the last ten years knows that a lot of people show up looking like bums, torn, dirty clothes, pajamas, all kinds of weird stuff. Since you all made WAGs as to why he was told to pull his pants up, I’ll give mine, He was singled out because these attendants suffer from “power trip syndrome”.


20 posted on 08/02/2012 9:01:14 AM PDT by 1raider1
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To: xrmusn
Actually the ‘saggy pants’ style was ‘invented’ by people of me and my ilk.

Uh, I hope not. It was invented by inmates because they aren't issued belts. Later, the droopy backside became known as a sign for homosexuals ... easy access...

21 posted on 08/02/2012 9:06:03 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Gaffer

“Actually, it is better that these potential criminals wear their pants like this. It is far easier to apprehend them when running away from the police.”

Yes, this “style” that celebrates prison culture not only makes it more difficult to run from the crime scene and/or the police - but when they reach for their waste to pull of their pants - many get shot because the police think they might be reaching for a gun.


22 posted on 08/02/2012 9:12:26 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: 1raider1; ConservativeStatement; Tea Party Terrorist; South40

Before you go painting with a wide brush, read the responses. I didn’t say anything about what the reason was. All I said was that it doesn’t matter. This is still America, if you wanna travel on, enter into, or play with someone else’s private property you have to play by there rules, even if you think they are arbitrary, or feel that it is “unfair”, “mean spirited”, or just a manifestation of a “power trip syndrome”.

If the flight attendants did something wrong, I am sure they’ll hear about from their bosses.


23 posted on 08/02/2012 9:14:59 AM PDT by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: 1raider1
Every airline has a contract of carriage which you agree to when you buy the ticket. Most people never read it and don't really need to, but this individual should have looked at section 4.2.6 of the Spirit Contract which covers wearing shoes and "appropriate clothing."

Now appropriate clothing is a pretty vague term, but that allows staff some latitude for insufficient coverage, profanity, or offensive messages on clothing.

24 posted on 08/02/2012 9:20:30 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: 1raider1

BUT if he made it through security, what reason did they have for making him pull them up?

Security is run by the government and is staffed by BO sons and such. Spirit is a business and has standards for their passengers to follow


25 posted on 08/02/2012 9:22:45 AM PDT by Figment
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To: 1raider1

Can either of you please answer my actual question and tell me why the flight attendants stopped him if he was cleared to fly by TSA?

What the hell does TSA have to do with this? TSA was probably pleased that they could touch his junk easier. TSA is not a business with paying customers. If I’d been a Spirit employee, the confrontation wouldn’t have happened on the plane. They would have been turned away at the gate


26 posted on 08/02/2012 9:28:34 AM PDT by Figment
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To: IbJensen

I will never understand this fad. And it has been around for so long. Kids were doing this even in the 1980s. Do the girls actually find this attractive?


27 posted on 08/02/2012 9:35:12 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: Da Coyote

The airline has every right to have a dress code.

^^^
For real. I just have to shrug when I think back to the way it was right up until about the end of the 1970s. People dressed up to go on a plane. Of course, they also dressed up to go to church, to the dentist, etc. We have become such a nation of slobs. Very sad.


28 posted on 08/02/2012 9:38:26 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: 1raider1

The TSA is supposed to be looking for security threats, it is outside of their scope to enforce a dress code.


29 posted on 08/02/2012 9:58:48 AM PDT by RedWhiteBlue (Mama tried)
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To: bgill

Uh, I hope not. It was invented by inmates because they aren’t issued belts.
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Think ‘sarcasm’ at best or ‘gallows humor’ at worst but we can settle on a form of satire.

I am aware of the origin, right back to the bill in the back baseball cap but think of the ‘aging, middle age male, KNOWING he now has very distinct ‘beer belly’ even though he hasn’t had a beer for many years, the vanity doesn’t allow the word ‘fat’ nor the very obvious increase in the waist size. Thus, “I still wear a 34 waist”. when one raises an eyebrow or rolls an eye, just say “well there is a 34 down there someplace”.

Thanks for ‘understanding’ it is not to be misunderstood for the obvious reasons you point out..... <: <: <:


30 posted on 08/02/2012 10:25:48 AM PDT by xrmusn (6/98 "It is virtually impossible to clean the pond as long as the pigs are still crapping in it")
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To: ConservativeStatement

I heard years ago when the fad first started that it was “ex-convict chic.” Guys who have just gotten out of prison are wearing their old clothes, which don’t fit anymore because of all the gym time. Or possibly because some of them were fat when they went in but didn’t have the same opportunity to overeat behind bars.


31 posted on 08/02/2012 10:56:23 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: 1raider1
You may think it was a power trip.

There's also a valid reason to think the guy was "underdressed". I've seen many saggy pants wearers who are engaging in indecent exposure. Many.

It's not a stretch to think that one of these made it onto the plane and a private company has a right to speak up about it if it is offensive which it appears this might have been.

32 posted on 08/02/2012 11:43:55 AM PDT by what's up
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To: Turbo Pig
He got kicked off for verbally abusing the crew....GOOD!!!

I was on a flight where a rapper-type group REFUSED to faaten their seat belts!!!! What a bunch of MORONS....they got kicked off, but their manager stayed on.

33 posted on 08/02/2012 1:19:58 PM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: what's up
Here’s my big but.

Given the contents of this article, perhaps you should have worded that differently. Yes, I know, different spellings, but I read it wrong at first due to contextual confusion. :)

34 posted on 08/02/2012 1:20:16 PM PDT by America_Right (Remember, Republicans have a lot more in common with Democrats than they do with Tea Partiers.)
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To: Turbo Pig

You’re right, it’s still America and private property owners have the right to refuse service to those showing their underwear.


35 posted on 08/02/2012 5:08:39 PM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (Your tattoo looks stupid.)
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To: 1raider1

“why the flight attendants stopped him if he was cleared to fly by TSA?”

The TSA are about security not corporate standards. Do you not understand that the TSA does not run the airlines nor tell them their standards?


36 posted on 08/03/2012 6:56:30 AM PDT by CodeToad (History says our end is near.)
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To: CodeToad

Please tell me, since you seem to know, just what the dress code is for the particular airline mentioned in this article.


37 posted on 08/03/2012 7:00:41 AM PDT by 1raider1
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To: 1raider1

Trying to play lawyer on the web is for the stupid. Thanks for for being stupid.


38 posted on 08/03/2012 7:29:55 AM PDT by CodeToad (History says our end is near.)
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