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Knight Capital Says Trading Glitch Cost It $440 Million
New York Times ^ | August 2, 2012 | Nathaniel Popper

Posted on 08/02/2012 2:51:54 PM PDT by lbryce

$10 million a minute.

That’s about how much the trading problem that set off turmoil on the stock market on Wednesday morning is already costing the trading firm.

The Knight Capital Group announced on Thursday that it lost $440 million when it sold all the stocks it accidentally bought Wednesday morning because a computer glitch.

The losses are threatening the stability of the firm, which is based in Jersey City. In its statement, Knight Capital said its capital base, the money it uses to conduct its business, had been “severely impacted” by the event and that it was “actively pursuing its strategic and financing alternatives.”

The losses are greater than the company’s revenue in the second quarter of this year, when it brought in $289 million.

“With the events of yesterday, you have to question if this is the beginning of the end for Knight,” said Christopher Nagy, founder of the consulting firm KOR Trading. Timeline: The Knight Capital Group's automated stock program flooded the market with millions of trades.

Shares of Knight Capital closed down 63 percent, at $2.58, on Thursday. On Wednesday, the shares fell 32 percent.

The problem on Wednesday led the firm’s computers to rapidly buy and sell millions of shares in over a hundred stocks for about 45 minutes after the markets opened. Those trades pushed the value of many stocks up, and the company’s losses appear to have occurred when it had to sell the overvalued shares back into the market at a lower price.

The company said the problems happened because of new trading software that had been installed. The event was the latest to draw attention to the potentially destabilizing effect of the computerized trading that has increasingly dominated the nation’s stock markets.

(Excerpt) Read more at dealbook.nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: glitch; obama
So what. A glitch in the US electoral system in 2009 cost trillions+.
1 posted on 08/02/2012 2:52:05 PM PDT by lbryce
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To: lbryce

What REALLY happened....

Some insiders financially raped the company, and they manufactured this to cover it up : )


2 posted on 08/02/2012 2:58:44 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: lbryce

So, if this same glitch has worked in their favor; would they still have complained?


3 posted on 08/02/2012 3:00:32 PM PDT by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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To: lbryce
You wonder if this was them getting burned by a black pool they helped set up?

Or haven't these cretins ever heard of QA testing?

Cheers!

4 posted on 08/02/2012 3:04:07 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: lbryce

If they were good democrats, they could just take their customer’s money and put it in their accounts.


5 posted on 08/02/2012 3:05:56 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Wow..... sounds like the perfect storm, doesn’t it? Too convenient not to smell to high heaven.

Follow the money, as always. Find out who made big profits, while the dust was swirling. I new something was amuck yestserday morning when watching Fox Business = Eric was having a cow about “automatic trades”. Now it makes sense.


6 posted on 08/02/2012 3:13:17 PM PDT by WaterWeWaitinFor
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To: WaterWeWaitinFor

Sorry - I new = I knew.


7 posted on 08/02/2012 3:14:39 PM PDT by WaterWeWaitinFor
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To: WaterWeWaitinFor

Time for the popcorn!


8 posted on 08/02/2012 3:21:52 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: lbryce

From Zerohedge:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/knight-considering-bankruptcy-looking-363-asset-sale

“Knight Considering Bankruptcy, Looking At 363 Asset Sale

363 Asset sale? This is what we said earlier when we reported on the rumors of a sale to Virtu: “Will it happen? Maybe. Although we doubt it - why pay for equity value when one can pick up the functioning assets in a Chapter 363 asset sale which also sticks the creditors with all the crappy assets?” Sure enough. Sadly, what this means for the company 1,500 employees is that about 80% them will be out of a job due to an algo gone wild. And to then we have been warning about the impact of HFT for the past 3 years.”


9 posted on 08/02/2012 3:36:15 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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To: lbryce
Computerized trading should be prohibited. You'd think these geniuses would know better. Who checks every line of code when a new program is maade? The losses are real, and at the speed of light.

Who concluded that this is a good thing?

One would think that volumes over a certain amount would be monitored and aborted. I suppose it's impossible to determine who were the big winners?

The computerized market, just like the slow version, is a "Zero Sum" game. Money, like matter, can't be destroyed. It can only change hands.

10 posted on 08/02/2012 3:36:15 PM PDT by publius911 (Formerly Publius 6961, formerly jennsdad)
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To: lbryce
and the trading program has NO red flags to alert a HUMAN when it starts trading large volumes of stock after the first few trades? it went on for 45MINUTES???

somebody has some splainin to do to the stockholders then...

11 posted on 08/02/2012 4:42:59 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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Having done large system as well as web based system testing, the question i have is how much, what type, and what scenarios were tested, and was this a home-grown application, or was the development hired out?

Whoever is head of QA, and whoever was the test team lead are toast right about now. And whoever lead the code reviews.

I wonder, maybe a trojan horse was built into the system?


12 posted on 08/02/2012 6:20:13 PM PDT by ace2u_in_MD (You missed something...)
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i hear ya, and a Trojan is a distinct possibility...
13 posted on 08/02/2012 7:18:21 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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