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Fuel-economy standards will pinch consumers (Replacing Steel with Aluminum to Comply w/Cafe EPA Std.
Oklahoman ^ | August 2, 2012 | Oklahoman Editorial

Posted on 08/02/2012 4:42:32 PM PDT by Red Steel

DEMOCRATS like to portray themselves as defenders of science, but their pursuit of a “green” environmental agenda often involves goals that defy the laws of physics. Take the fuel-economy standards the Obama administration pushed through in 2011. Those regulations require the U.S. vehicle fleet to average 54.5 miles per gallon by 2025.

Even with advances in engineering, that goal is daunting. The power required to move something as massive as an American vehicle (full-size trucks weigh between 7,500 and 12,000 pounds) at high speeds necessitates burning a little fuel.

Consider this: Many 2012 model motorcycles don't get 54.5 miles per gallon, according to www.totalmotorcycle.com. Even if they did, we doubt many families are willing to have mom and dad double up on a motorcycle and ride flying down the Interstate with junior riding the handlebars just to satisfy liberal notions of environmental progress.

This leaves auto manufacturers in a quandary. In response, Ford is trying to develop an F-150 truck with a largely aluminum body. That could prove a tough sell. Many truck buyers, recalling what happens when their 5-year-old stomps a pop can, may be hesitant to drive an aluminum vehicle when high-speed collisions with deer and other cars aren't uncommon. Aluminum will also increase the cost of the vehicle, since it's more expensive than steel. So truck drivers may pay more for the opportunity to feel less secure.

Ironically, the new fuel standards could also increase consumption of electricity generated by the coal plants that environmentalists love to hate. Car plants use magnets to move steel sheets, but electricity-guzzling vacuums are needed to move aluminum.

Other automakers are pursing a different tack. The Wall Street Journal reports that General Motors will try to meet the new fuel standards by producing two different trucks. One will be a traditional full-size model appealing to customers who, well, drive trucks. The other will be a smaller truck with better gas mileage appealing to government bean counters.

The new fuel standards may result in production of small trucks that few want to buy in order to meet an arbitrary fuel standard. You'd think environmentalists would be appalled by that waste of materials and power.

With its fuel-economy standard, the Obama administration is not only trying to defy the laws of science, but also punish American consumers who prefer the safety and power of a larger vehicle to the fuel-efficiency and explode-on-impact qualities of the 1970s Ford Pinto.

MIT economist Christopher Knittel determined the average fuel economy of automobiles sold in the United States rose about 15 percent between 1980 and 2006, but the average curb weight increased 26 percent and horsepower jumped 107 percent. Put simply, Americans accept a loss in fuel economy in exchange for a comfortable ride in relative safety.

Instead of trying to punish millions of Americans for wanting a vehicle with passenger space and enough power to top a hill, we'd suggest an alternative to the Obama administration: Let consumers decide what type of vehicles they want to drive. And to increase fuel supplies, why not increase domestic drilling? Sadly, with this administration, that may be more of a pipe dream than the 54.5 mpg fuel standard


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial
KEYWORDS: democrats; epaoutofcontrol; fordf150; fuelstandards; obama; obamaadmin
And drivers will get crunched in their pocket books as well as in accidents all to satisfy the wacko leftists.
1 posted on 08/02/2012 4:42:47 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

If this crap doesn’t make it, BIG TIME, into the general public before the election, then we don’t deserve the White House.


2 posted on 08/02/2012 4:47:16 PM PDT by BobL (Cruz'd to Victory - July 31, 2012)
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To: Red Steel

The enviro-whackjobs are getting nostalgic for such automotive masterpieces as the Chevy Chevette.


3 posted on 08/02/2012 4:50:54 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: Red Steel

It is possible to make a car so light that it wants to become airborne above 40 MPH. There is a limit as to how light a car can be.


4 posted on 08/02/2012 4:54:09 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Disambiguator

Anybody who want to buy a f-150 will be required to also buy one of Japanese mini trucks with a two cylinder engine...to average out the mileage. Just throw away the little one or give it to some hippy.


5 posted on 08/02/2012 4:55:05 PM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: central_va

We’ll have to leave 4 lengths between cars to stop in time.


6 posted on 08/02/2012 5:00:18 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: central_va

Not if you increase the down force via an ugly spoiler.


7 posted on 08/02/2012 5:02:06 PM PDT by LukeL (Barack Obama: Jimmy Carter 2 Electric Boogaloo)
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To: LukeL

Downforce = drag

Drag = less fuel economy


8 posted on 08/02/2012 5:04:01 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Red Steel

According to the government CAFE standards kill people. Every raise in CAFE standards kills more people.


9 posted on 08/02/2012 5:12:20 PM PDT by SUSSA
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To: Red Steel

Where is Hank Rierdon when you need him?


10 posted on 08/02/2012 5:15:01 PM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag
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To: SUSSA
No blood for oil! Unless it is for CAFE standards - then blood for oil is a fine trade.
11 posted on 08/02/2012 5:29:12 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Recycled Olympic tagline Shut up, Bob Costas. Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up!)
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To: Red Steel

Needless to say Ford will not look at the “MyT” moter that could get that level of performance..

MyT-> http://www.angellabsllc.com/mytengine.html


12 posted on 08/02/2012 5:33:12 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: KarlInOhio

“If it saves just one life...” doesn’t apply to CAFE standards either.


13 posted on 08/02/2012 5:50:50 PM PDT by SUSSA
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To: Red Steel

So when it comes to it what are you going to do?

Choice 1 The full size steel bodied F-150 at 3X the price

Choice 2 The all aluminum Deathtrap

Choice 3 The Little Dyke Truck (AKA S-10 or Saturn equivlenet)

Choice 4 Keep the 15 year old F150 running as long as possible.


14 posted on 08/02/2012 6:38:36 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
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To: Red Steel
and who will they sue when the bodies start piling up???
15 posted on 08/02/2012 7:12:29 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Ouderkirk

It’s going to take the next administration some time to unravel and kill this junk. The bad news is that a lot of the damage is done, and it is permanent. Even if Romney wins and (darned unlikely) has this rescinded the day of the inauguration, the manufacturers know that every four years, they could be in trouble again. Same story with coal mining and coal-fired generating plants. Those are gone, permanently.

Carter might have been a hopeless idiot leader, but I really don’t think that he did nearly as much damage to the country as what we see now. This administration was brilliant - maybe too brilliant. I think it was planned in advance by others, frankly.


16 posted on 08/02/2012 7:14:13 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker
government douchebags, especially progressive commie government douchebags, believe in *science* and technology to the point of mandating the when and how much we have by law...

i wish theyd just decree that cars must be powered by a flux capacitor and/or run on canned corn...it would be more honest...

17 posted on 08/02/2012 9:35:54 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Gilbo_3; stephenjohnbanker

You wont be surprised but Romney has in the past said he believes in ‘human-caused climate change’.

Fortunately his private fleet of personal jets and luxury cars will be exempt..Just us.


18 posted on 08/02/2012 10:01:10 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: Gilbo_3; sickoflibs

” government douchebags, especially progressive commie government douchebags, believe in *science* and technology to the point of mandating the when and how much we have by law...”

Yet we stand for it. Time to fight back.


19 posted on 08/03/2012 10:02:02 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Red Steel
2013 Honda Accord Diesel USA

Already in the ballpark - 53.3 MPG. There are a few sedans sold in Europe that have similar economy. It's easier to there because the emissions regs are different.

20 posted on 08/03/2012 10:11:49 AM PDT by Jack of all Trades (Hold your face to the light, even though for the moment you do not see.)
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To: Red Steel
With its fuel-economy standard, the Obama administration is not only trying to defy the laws of science, but also punish American consumers who prefer the safety and power of a larger vehicle to the fuel-efficiency and explode-on-impact qualities of the 1970s Ford Pinto.

I think they want to make commuting as economically unfeasible as possible. They want us packed into cities like sardines.

21 posted on 08/03/2012 10:21:27 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

You’re correct.

I’ve long felt all the safety and emission and fuel economy regulation was really intended to drive up the price of vehicles and get average folks into public transportation.


22 posted on 08/03/2012 10:25:46 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: tacticalogic

You’re correct.

I’ve long felt all the safety and emission and fuel economy regulation was really intended to drive up the price of vehicles and get average folks into public transportation.


23 posted on 08/03/2012 10:26:23 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: stephenjohnbanker; Gilbo_3
RE :”Yet we stand for it. Time to fight back.

Romney doesn't seem to be much of a fighter wrt individual issues, maybe because as Gilbo says, he really believes the same as Obama on most of them.

Republicans only have one good fight per year in them, and that was the ChickfilA support day. I think we have to wait a year for another.

I know Romney would never do this but the race sure would get fun if he picked Allen West as VP,.

24 posted on 08/03/2012 10:49:49 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: sickoflibs; Gilbo_3; mkjessup; All

” I know Romney would never do this but the race sure would get fun if he picked Allen West as VP,. “

I’m old enough (58) to believe anything is possible. Picking West, in my estimation, would be the smartest move Romney could possibly make right now. West would rip Obama’s head clear off, while Romney could(to his relief) stay “above the fray”. It would also obviate the proverbial “racism” moniker : )


25 posted on 08/03/2012 11:06:15 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: sickoflibs
Romney doesn't seem to be much of a fighter wrt individual issues, maybe because as Gilbo says, he really believes the same as Obama on most of them.

did mittens eat a chicken sammich ??? didnt think so...

Republicans only have one good fight per year in them, and that was the ChickfilA support day. I think we have to wait a year for another.the race sure would get fun if he picked Allen West as VP,.

we *might* get another round out of em on the 2A and/or fast & furious this yr...but i would bet on a lukewarm, bi-partisan result in the name of *common sense*...

allen west would be an uncle tom on day one...the race card would be beaten over mittens head, for daring to turn the VP role into house slave, and last but not least, wests own shortcomings would be the only narrative that anyone would see, and his voting record is lukewarm, but has potential...

26 posted on 08/03/2012 12:23:02 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: The Antiyuppie
I think it was planned in advance by others, frankly.

They have been planning this for decades. Soros, and his ilk, the communists in the democRAT party. They are trying to do everything they can right now in a silent coup to overthrow the nation. They simply must win the next election or they're done and they know it. So expect there to be "unrest" in the fall.

27 posted on 08/03/2012 4:56:22 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
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