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A Mitt Romney loss wouldn’t necessarily be a disaster
The Daily Caller ^ | August 3, 2012 | Matt K. Lewis

Posted on 08/03/2012 1:26:47 PM PDT by Bratch

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To: cardinal4

Calling me a “Romney Rump Ranger” is doing the same thing you are accusing me of. I was disparaging Raising Cain because I believe she is a media plant, and you immediatley jump on me and invoke JR. How is that not taking the low road?
***You said to flame away so I’m flaming away.


201 posted on 08/03/2012 3:45:42 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: JRandomFreeper; NoLibZone
Why do you persist in thinking that browbeating freepers that have been here longer than you will get them to vote for your candidate?

Longevity here is irrelevant.

202 posted on 08/03/2012 3:46:01 PM PDT by TankerKC (Welcome to the age of "I Meant to Do That" Diplomacy)
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To: Kevmo
Why don’t you go and convert obots to mittbots?

I accidentally did that with the neighbor. He's an 84 year old radical democrat that was born in France. When I explained why I was not voting for Mitt, I accidentally convinced him. He didn't want to vote for Obama again.

Mitt was just fine, though.

/johnny

203 posted on 08/03/2012 3:46:01 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: cardinal4
this is the first time I have heard that a Freeper was running..

You should get out more. ;)

/johnny

204 posted on 08/03/2012 3:47:20 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
I've heard the same over-the-top crap every election cycle since forever. We're still here.

Have you thought about where "here" is?
205 posted on 08/03/2012 3:47:26 PM PDT by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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To: cardinal4

I’m having a real problem understanding why folks claim they will not vote for Romney when he is all we have.
***Then read the RomneyTruthFile right on the front page. Voting for a lying, baby-killing statist is not an option.

To me, that is allowing 4 more years of Obama, and the end of our Republic.
***That’s your fear talking. We see the same bs fears motivating republicans every 4 years. Why should we yield our principles just because a bunch of republicans are fear mongering, basically acting like cowards?


207 posted on 08/03/2012 3:48:19 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Amntn

I have complete respect for that and it does sway my inclinations. Just so long as we don’t give up. That’s what counts. God Bless, Friend.


208 posted on 08/03/2012 3:48:19 PM PDT by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: tumblindice
You're just a noob

You're flirting with a derivative of Godwin's law there.

209 posted on 08/03/2012 3:50:36 PM PDT by TankerKC (Welcome to the age of "I Meant to Do That" Diplomacy)
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To: EternalVigilance
Let me know if you need signatures to qualify for write-in. I can get some for you.

In the general election, I will go with Constitution party (at this time). As I said, nothing personal. I wish you all the best.

/johnny

210 posted on 08/03/2012 3:51:54 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Kevmo; Jim Robinson

I wasn’t aware Jim will not vote for the only viable candidate other than Obama. In truth, it doesn’t really matter for whom he votes because he lives in California and Obama will win by over whelming margin simply because the numbers of connservative/Republican voters is simply inadequate to prevail against him .

That is a sad but true fact.

I understand the dislike of Romney and would prefer another conservative candidate. The primary is over. The candidate that won is Romney. There may be several pretenders and some will pretend to vote for one of them. To count, to be relevant, If you live outside the solid red states your vote will be irrelevant if not for Romney or Obama.

The two party system was developed, evolved if you will to permit the inclusion of small political groups within a larger group with which they have the most in common. The Senatorial runoff in Texas is proof the process works and that conservatives will actually have a voice in Republican party proceedings

Regardless of how bad Romney seems, his power to do the horrible things coloring doomsday imaginations, will be dampened. He must deal with the Tea Party conservatives in the Congress.


211 posted on 08/03/2012 3:52:30 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: JRandomFreeper

Forgoodnesssakes, post a link.

***It’s on the FRONT PAGE of the FORUM. FIRST FReeping PARAgraph. How hard did you look? Forgoodnesssakes, put some effort into it, man.

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/*/index

HOME/ABOUT Prayer SCOTUS ProLife BangList Aliens StatesRights WOT HomosexualAgenda GlobalWarming Corruption Taxes Congress Elections Fraud MediaBias GovtAbuse Tyranny Obama NaturalBornCitizen FastandFurious GunRunner ACORN TalkRadio CopyrightList Rally WalterReed TeaParty TeaPartyExpress TeaPartyRebellion FreeperBookClub RINOFreeAmerica RomneyTruthFile


212 posted on 08/03/2012 3:52:54 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: TankerKC
It's relevant to the extent that I've been here long enough to weather this crap every election cycle, and I'm unlikely to change.

/johnny

213 posted on 08/03/2012 3:53:57 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Kevmo
YOU are the one who hasn’t been paying attention. This is a CONSERVATIVE website, not a republican one. Conservatism has already lost this election, regardless of who wins.

So you're voting for Obama - is that it?


214 posted on 08/03/2012 3:54:51 PM PDT by Iron Munro ("Jiggle the Handle for Barry!")
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To: EternalVigilance

Have you made it onto the California ballot?

I’m assuming someone can write you in even if you didn’t.


215 posted on 08/03/2012 3:55:26 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Kevmo
I meant the thread that lead to that.

/johnny

216 posted on 08/03/2012 3:56:09 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: bert
In truth, it doesn’t really matter for whom he votes because he lives in California

Would that precisely this same largesse (however grudgingly extended) was likewise offered to we FReepers in similarly ultra-mega-blue environs.

217 posted on 08/03/2012 3:57:16 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: cardinal4; EternalVigilance

I suggest you vote for a freeper, Tom Hoefling, aka Eternal Vigilance.

I have been saying I would write in Sarah or some other social conservative republican, straight republican ticket up & down. So I’m vacillating on voting for Tom, but it won’t be that difficult to make a decision by November.


218 posted on 08/03/2012 3:57:52 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: RaisingCain
That’s the problem. You trust their judgment since you have none of your own.

Normally a liberal idiot with nothing to contribute but insults will out themselves within the first two sentences. I'm so glad you didn't disappoint us. What is it about "NO personal attacks" do you not understand?

219 posted on 08/03/2012 3:58:17 PM PDT by garybob (More sweat in training, less blood in combat.)
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To: Hiddigeigei
Yep. In some ways it's better than 1978. In some ways worse.

The world isn't going to end either way. We lost most of our freedom back in 1912-1940.

/johnny

220 posted on 08/03/2012 3:59:35 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Kevmo

I expect to be on the ballot in CA.

That’s what this series of three debates is about: who will obtain the valuable American Independent Party California presidential ballot line.


221 posted on 08/03/2012 3:59:58 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The saving of America starts the day conservatives stop supporting what they say they hate.)
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To: Iron Munro
Do you think you are winning any votes for your candidate with that kind of rhetoric?

/johnny

222 posted on 08/03/2012 4:02:22 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Bratch
This is absolute BS.Osama Obama has brought this nation to its knees...intentionally.In the 2008 campaign he specifically promised to “return the nation's wealth to its rightful owners”.In a second term,one in which he wouldn't have to worry about a single poll,a single donor campaign or a single call for impeachment,he will use it to stick the knife in by way of Executive Orders.These orders,of course,will be issued in between rounds of golf.
223 posted on 08/03/2012 4:02:47 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Poor Barack.If He's Reelected,Think Of The Mess He'll Inherit!)
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To: Kevmo

LOL, I did say to flame away! Fair enough. But then you called me a rump ranger and involved JR. I have to admit that threw me for a loop. My pre-teen kids don’t run and tattle like you have done to three others on this thread! Nor do they assume that people who disagree with them are gay, either.
So, help me out, who should my family and I support this November?


224 posted on 08/03/2012 4:03:12 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Do I really need a /s tag?)
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To: Amntn

To be completely honest, I am voting out of fear.
***If you were not voting out of fear, what would your vote be? Spreading fear and being motivated by it is simple cowardice. It is no way to make decisions. Instead, embrace courage and spread courage — do what you would do if you were not afraid.

If I wasn’t afraid that 4 more years of zer0bama meant the end of our republic (which it does not, that gives him entirely too much credit) I would vote for who I think the future should look like. Someone like Tome Hoefling or Sarah Palin.


225 posted on 08/03/2012 4:04:34 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Kevmo

If the candidate has not signed and filed the appropriate forms, and provided a slate of electors, and met all of the other requirements, write in votes for them are not counted in most of the states.

Personally, I don’t believe in voting for folks who haven’t agreed to serve if elected, unless there is absolutely no acceptable choice available. Then it hardly matters.


226 posted on 08/03/2012 4:05:52 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The saving of America starts the day conservatives stop supporting what they say they hate.)
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To: Kevmo
I suggest you vote for a freeper, Tom Hoefling, aka Eternal Vigilance.I'll give him a look..
227 posted on 08/03/2012 4:06:04 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Do I really need a /s tag?)
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To: WHBates

Good Lord your an idiot. I guess you voted for Obama 4 years ago. Are all of you people in a boiler room in Chicago. Vote for who you want, I will, while we still have the ability.
***Obama thanks you for the fear and discord you have sown among conservatives today.


228 posted on 08/03/2012 4:06:20 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Gritty

Please, people, don’t lose sight of the big picture.
***The big picture is that this is a conservative website, not a republican website.

The only goal right now is to beat the enemy, not obtain ideological purity.
***How do you beat a statist by voting for a statist? How do you defeat a babykiller by voting for a babykiller. The big picture is that no matter who wins, conservatism loses. So go and convert some 0bots into mittbots. We can all agree that such a thing is the right course of action. Separating conservatives from their conservative beliefs on a conservative website (this is NOT a republican website) is not conservative. That is the big picture.


229 posted on 08/03/2012 4:10:26 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Good. Repeat that ten thousand times and you will win this election single-handedly, without sowing an ounce of discord among conservatives.


230 posted on 08/03/2012 4:12:08 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Bratch

FREEPERS FOR OBAMA!!!!!!!!


231 posted on 08/03/2012 4:15:12 PM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: Kevmo

“Instead, embrace courage and spread courage — do what you would do if you were not afraid.”

That wins every time, in the long run. Plus, you sleep like a baby.


232 posted on 08/03/2012 4:16:18 PM PDT by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: EternalVigilance
Good luck with that. I know how important ballot access is.

It's one thing Democrats and Republicans agree on. Gotta limit ballot access to the 2 parties, and put up hurdles for any 3rd party to jump over.

It's a lot like organized crime. ;)

/johnny

233 posted on 08/03/2012 4:16:40 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Kevmo
“If I wasn’t afraid that 4 more years of zer0bama meant the end of our republic (which it does not, that gives him entirely too much credit) I would vote for who I think the future should look like. Someone like Tome Hoefling or Sarah Palin.”

I don't think you really know what we are up against. It would be the end of the republic.

234 posted on 08/03/2012 4:17:15 PM PDT by Amntn
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To: Iron Munro

So you’re voting for Obama - is that it?
***No. And yet you idiotic republican romney rump rangers keep trying that tactic, as if it was some kind of magnificent triumph of classic reasoning. Why do you persist in sowing discord among conservatives?

Right now there are apparently folks on DU who are trying to convince their counterparts that a vote for a third party is effectively a vote for Romney. And there are the republitards like you who are telling us that a vote for a third party is effectively a vote for Obama. That means, using such math, that a vote for a third party counts for 2 votes.

Why do you persist in sowing discord among conservatives? Obama thanks you for your efforts.


235 posted on 08/03/2012 4:19:11 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Amntn
It would be the end of the republic.

I've heard that same tired thing EVERY single election cycle. Every one.

It doesn't work any more. Try something new, like running a conservative. Or shutting up Rove when he attacks conservatives, or shutting down the dirty tricks (Florida, Virginia).

/johnny

236 posted on 08/03/2012 4:20:00 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: garybob

What is it about “NO personal attacks” do you not understand?
***What about what you wrote with your first sentence? Normally a liberal idiot with nothing to contribute but insults will out themselves within the first two sentences. I’m so glad you didn’t disappoint us.


237 posted on 08/03/2012 4:21:23 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: EternalVigilance

I will pray for you.


238 posted on 08/03/2012 4:22:18 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Kevmo
Repeat that ten thousand times

He's the only liberal I know. ;)

/johnny

239 posted on 08/03/2012 4:23:02 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: APatientMan
I will never give up. To do that would dishonor my father as well as all of the rest who have fought for and built this country. I just want to make sure there is a country left for my grandchildren.
240 posted on 08/03/2012 4:24:07 PM PDT by Amntn
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To: Kevmo; EternalVigilance
Joined in prayers lifted.

/johnny

241 posted on 08/03/2012 4:25:30 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Do you think you are winning any votes for your candidate with that kind of rhetoric?

Johnny, That wasn't rehetoric - it was a legitimate question and it wasn't directed to you.

I don't have a candidate and I am not trying to round up votes..

But even though I cannot have the perfect conservative candidate to vote for, I strongly want to see Obama ejected from the White House while there is still a country to save.

I am just amazed when I hear people say they are conservatives but will sit the election out which will make four more years of Obama more likely.


242 posted on 08/03/2012 4:25:38 PM PDT by Iron Munro ("Jiggle the Handle for Barry!")
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To: Colonel_Flagg

Probably. Starkest black/white question possible:

If the choice is Obama or Romney, will you choose Obama?


243 posted on 08/03/2012 4:26:45 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama Kills))
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To: cardinal4

So, help me out, who should my family and I support this November?
***I already answered that. Tom Hoefling, Freeper.

My pre-teen kids don’t run and tattle like you have done to three others on this thread!
***Do your preteen kids say the same insults to you that they do to each other when you aren’t around? Why not? Because you have authority. FReepers who engage in the same level of behavior, calling us Obama supporters ferinstance, do not do the same thing to JimRob because they are bootlickers.

Nor do they assume that people who disagree with them are gay, either.
***That’s just alliterative rhetoric. I recently wrote “idiotic romney rump ranger republicans” when it should have been “retarded romney rump ranger republicans”. 5 ‘R’ alliterations in a row. It does the job.


244 posted on 08/03/2012 4:30:56 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Iron Munro
What in the Wide, Wide, World of Sports makes you think I intend to sit out the election because I won't vote for your liberal with an R?

I will vote for a conservative for president, and for solid conservatives downticket.

I'm actively working to give Dewhurst the boot in 2014.

The country will still be here in 4 years, regardless of who wins. I intend to see it significantly more conservative.

/johnny

245 posted on 08/03/2012 4:31:22 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

After the first four years of Obama your statement makes me wonder how bad it would actually have to get for you to be concerned and perhaps compromise your sacred “principles”. Maybe a Tiananmen square-type event?


246 posted on 08/03/2012 4:31:34 PM PDT by sam_whiskey (Peace through Strength)
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To: Hardraade
If the choice is Obama or Romney,

False dichotomy. The choice is NOT between Obama and Romney. There are other choices.

/johnny

247 posted on 08/03/2012 4:33:28 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: sam_whiskey
I will be dead before I compromise my principles. Killing babies is wrong. Supporting someone that has enabled killing babies is wrong. I will not budge on that.

The outcome is not in my hands. What I do, is.

/johnny

248 posted on 08/03/2012 4:36:15 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Amntn

I don’t think you really know what we are up against. It would be the end of the republic.
***I have appreciated your honesty. So here is mine. We lost our republic in 2008 when the SCOTUS refused to uphold the requirements for the eligibility of the POTUS-elect, as the 20th amendment says to do.

Perhaps it doesn’t alleviate your fears about losing the republic to point out that the republic is already lost. But God knows what we do and how we do it, for love of our country. And God wants us to proceed without fear, rather than to proceed with it.


249 posted on 08/03/2012 4:36:42 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: montag813

i totally agree. the worst thing would be the third term of jimmy carter.

blessings, bobo


250 posted on 08/03/2012 4:39:17 PM PDT by bobo1
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