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Romney to Reid: “I have paid taxes every year — and a lot of taxes” (Watch Video)
Hotair ^ | 08/03/2012 | AllahPundit

Posted on 08/03/2012 2:49:07 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Love the bit at the end here about how this smear exposes Obama's above-the-fray shtick as the cynical Hopenchange branding nonsense that it is. I also like the added emphasis on "a lot of taxes," although Think Progress or TPM or whoever is no doubt working up a post right now explaining why the millions he's paid over the years don't really qualify as "a lot."

Serious question: Should HuffPo have published Reid's initial accusation about the mysterious Bain investor who allegedly called him about Romney? WaPo wonders:

In this case, the dissemination of Reid’s words is responsible, compulsory. It would be a shame, after all, if Reid’s constituents passed ignorant of the evidentiary standards to which he subjects his mudslinging...

In a world rigged by the Erik Wemple Blog, the legal system would be prejudiced in the opposite direction: Publications that failed to publish any and all false and defamatory charges made by public officials would be subject to criminal and civil liability. Professor Clay Calvert, the director of the Marion B. Brechner First Amendment Project at the University of Florida, says, “The real story is the fact that Reid made the allegation in the first place. The second story is whether the allegation is true.”

Yeah, I agree, albeit with misgivings. Reid’s being clever here in using his political stature to push this smear out: "Some anonymous guy told me Romney doesn't pay his taxes" isn't a newsworthy story, but "some anonymous guy told me Romney doesn't pay his taxes, says Senate majority leader" assuredly is. If one of the most powerful Democrats in the country is being this much of a cretin, I want to know about it — even though publicizing his cretinism inadvertently spreads the allegation of Romney’s tax evasion. I think HuffPo had to run with it, even if spreading the allegation was their goal.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: reid; romney; taxes

1 posted on 08/03/2012 2:49:13 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Senator Reid must certainly come forth with the identity of “some anonymous guy” who obviously works for the IRS and is feloniously releasing Romney’s tax information.


2 posted on 08/03/2012 2:56:34 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: SeekAndFind

Romney has been on a plan to run for president since 2006....when he first started organizing for the 2007/2008 primary season.

Does any sane person think he did anything improper on his taxes since then?


3 posted on 08/03/2012 2:58:43 PM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: SeekAndFind

What we need is a simple agreement.

If Romney has paid taxes in any one of the past ten years then Reid agrees to resign from the senate and name his source.

Then Romney should agree to prove that he has paid taxes in at least one of the past ten years.

This strikes me as fair. And, of course, if Reid’s source is the IRS, then Reid needs to go to prison as well as resign.


4 posted on 08/03/2012 2:59:50 PM PDT by JoeDetweiler
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To: The_Media_never_lie
His name is Buell Feces.

No one gave him this info, it is made up from whole cloth. Even if they trot someone out as a fall guy, I won't believe it.

5 posted on 08/03/2012 3:04:23 PM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (All Y'all White Peoples is racist!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Someone, please explain to me how someone who worked at Bain would know whether Romney did, or did not pay his taxes.

The charge to me seems silly and bush league for a U.S. Senator.

Is the Senator a victim of dementia?

6 posted on 08/03/2012 3:05:05 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: SeekAndFind

W fell into this trap and was down to showing dental records from his National Guard posting in AL. Screw the Dems and the hrses they rode in on.


7 posted on 08/03/2012 3:06:08 PM PDT by jessduntno ("Racism is not dead...it is on life support - kept alive by politicians..." - Thomas Sowell)
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To: lacrew

The latest that Romney would have cheated on his taxes would have been 2001, after that he entered the political arena and would have been under scrutiny.

No, I honestly believe Romney probably didn’t cheat on his taxes. He’s probably played it straight.


8 posted on 08/03/2012 3:06:15 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: jessduntno

How would someone at Bain know if Romney didn’t pay his taxes?


9 posted on 08/03/2012 3:07:48 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: SeekAndFind

If Romney didn’t pay the the taxes he owed the IRS would be on his ass. If he paid more than the taxes he owed I don’t want his ignorant ass as President


10 posted on 08/03/2012 3:13:02 PM PDT by Starstruck (Only the wealthy and the poor can afford socialism)
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To: SeekAndFind
If Romney didn't pay his taxes you can be assured the gestapo IRS would be all over him. And...it would be leaked by said gestapo.

GUARANTEED!

F U H R!

11 posted on 08/03/2012 3:14:04 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: SeekAndFind

How desperate must they be to lead with a lie so easily disproved


12 posted on 08/03/2012 3:22:04 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Legalize Freedom!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

In all serious I believe the Democrat party has helped us more in this election then we have helped ourselves.

Bain, “You didn’t build that, Chick-Fil-A and now this.

See ya at the polls liberals!!


13 posted on 08/03/2012 3:23:09 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: The_Media_never_lie

It’s not unknown for an accountant at a company like Bain to confer with Romney’s tax guy. The degree of intricacy for senior level compensation almost requires it. It is possible that a high level employee or officer in the compensation, finance or tax section of Bain might be privy to details about Romney’s filing.


14 posted on 08/03/2012 3:26:37 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Legalize Freedom!!)
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To: 1035rep

See ya at the polls liberals!!


You won’t see them as they won’t turnout...hope and change had it’s 15 minutes of fame. Now Obama will go down as the worst president in modern history.


15 posted on 08/03/2012 3:26:37 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

All history


16 posted on 08/03/2012 3:29:45 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Legalize Freedom!!)
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To: Jonty30; lacrew
"The latest that Romney would have cheated on his taxes would have been 2001, after that he entered the political arena and would have been under scrutiny.

No, I honestly believe Romney probably didn’t cheat on his taxes. He’s probably played it straight."

Mitt Romney's entrance into politics dates way back to 1994 when he ran for the U.S. Senate in Massachusetts against Ted Kennedy, who we all know would have used any hint of financial scandal against Mitt, but none existed.

Your conclusion is correct. The fact is Gov. Romney is squeaky clean in his personal life and finances concerning income taxes.

Harry Reid is baiting Romney to release his tax records so that Obama's jackals can pore through them and find some obscure, albeit legal, tax shelter Romney applied to preserve wealth and security for his family. An uninformed public, especially Obama voters, can be easily bamboozled into believing intricate tax law is somehow shady or illegal. It makes no difference to Obama or Reid that the tax filings are legal and proper, only the spin is important for their sordid purposes.

17 posted on 08/03/2012 3:44:18 PM PDT by Unmarked Package
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To: lacrew

Do I think Romney is a tax cheat? No. Do I think he is getting killed on the issue. Yes! Look, let’s turn it around if Obama was withholding his tax returns this place would be In full meltdown. The fact is the longer the story festers the more infected it gets. Reid is a douche but he kept the story going. Romney is getting murdered for this.

I was looking at spending in election. Some here think WI, MI, and PN are in play. Romney is spending in FL, OH, VA, CO, NV, NH ,iA and NC and that is it. We are less than 100 days out. Hell early voting starts in 70. If this is where you expect election to be won then you are committing political malpractice besides not releasing returns and ending this stuff. Why?

If you run the election in those states only you admit the score is 247-191 Obama. This means 23 more and Obama wins. Polling shows Obama with solid to close leads in above states except NC.

What is my point? This is the worst run campaign I have ever seen! Everyday Romney or his staff look
Like they are flailing and caught off guard, when a lot of this same stuff came up in primary. Obviously I am not optimistic. I just hope he doesn’t destroy down party elections too. I am not real smart but follow the money is easy. If you do not try to
Expand the field Mr. Romney you have put Obama back
In WH for another term. Get the taxes out and go on offense. Playing defense at the goal line is never good strategy.


18 posted on 08/03/2012 3:47:48 PM PDT by chopperjc
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To: chopperjc

Look where 0bama and cabal are going. There’s your key state.


19 posted on 08/03/2012 3:53:11 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: JoeDetweiler

according to his 2010 return he has paid taxes.

Reid can step down now.


20 posted on 08/03/2012 4:01:35 PM PDT by cableguymn (For the first time in my life. I fear my country's government.)
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To: chopperjc

I see it differently. For starters, I don’t have cable...so I have to seek out news....and I have a pretty good feel for how much of a story reaches people who don’t seek out news/don’t pay attention.

I haven’t heard much about this story - other than conservative talk radio.

Now, today, Romney was asked about this...and in his answer, he implicated Obama (by name) in these false accusations, and called Obama out for not running an issues based, high brow campaign...which Obama had promised in a phone call to Romney.

What am I getting at? We’re 90 days out, and O is already being forced to use his biggest ‘scandals’...and he is being called out for diving into the mud.

This will be all but forgotten (except at DU) BEFORE the convention. The Olympics are going on...nobody is paying attention. The starting gun hasn’t gone off, O has blown his stash on fruitless Bain ads...and his campaign is so cash poor, it now has to trot out Harry with a laughable accusation.

As to why Romney hasn’t released the returns: I imagine his taxes are very complex, and take advantage of a large number of legal tax breaks. What do you think the party that seeks out the stupid demographic would do with that type of information? Every little tax shelter would become a new mini-scandal...putting Romney on the defensive every week until the election.

Romney may also be waiting for them to ‘leak’ out....so he can publicly demand an investigation into a corrupt executive branch.

I say keep holding out - the story doesn’t have legs, and it will be ‘old news’ by the time people start paying attention.


21 posted on 08/03/2012 4:10:31 PM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Dirty Harry Reid: The Mafia's "Mr. Clean Face" on the Nevada Gaming Commission

Reid is so mobbed up that he's a walking, talking blackmail machine. Axlerod and Rhambo could order him to tar and feather himself and walk naked down Pennsylvania Ave and he would do so instantly.

Read Freeper Fedora's excellent investigative thread to understand this human slimeball, and why he is willing to be a tool: he has NO CHOICE.

Mr. Cleanface’s Dirty Laundry: Harry Reid’s Mob Money. (Original FReeper research 01/20/2006 by Fedora)

Reid Got $1.1M In Shady NV Land Deals


22 posted on 08/03/2012 4:23:35 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: muir_redwoods
It’s not unknown for an accountant at a company like Bain to confer with Romney’s tax guy. The degree of intricacy for senior level compensation almost requires it. It is possible that a high level employee or officer in the compensation, finance or tax section of Bain might be privy to details about Romney’s filing.

Ok, that makes sense. I'd be willing to bet that he complied to the letter of the tax law based on his tax accountant's advice.

Probably what Reid is harping on is that a couple of years he (Romney) may or may not have paid anything, or his losses offset his gains, etc., all according to the tax code. They want ammo to use as talking points because Obama's record is so abysmal

The wealthy, Senators after all, have different rules that they are beholden to than the little guy. After all, Nancy Pelosi made stock market profits on insider knowledge, a crime that sent Martha Stewart to prison.

I do not begrudge Romney at all for taking advantage of the tax laws to pay what he owed. As he said, I'm sure he has payed plenty.

23 posted on 08/03/2012 4:59:17 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: lacrew

We can agree to disagree. The story coupled with his tax plan that got eviscerated I think will be around. It still doesn’t change the fact of how the campaign is being run.


24 posted on 08/03/2012 6:38:49 PM PDT by chopperjc
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