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Romney can't ignore Sarah Palin in 2012. The Tea Party champ is more politically relevant than ever
The London Telegraph ^ | August 2, 2012 | Dr. Tim Stanley, Oxford University

Posted on 08/04/2012 2:03:28 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Love her or loathe her (and those seem to be the only options), Sarah Palin won’t go away. Despite holding no office and having no obvious intention of running for one, she continues to dominate headlines and divide the country. So how will Romney handle her in 2012? Presuming that he won’t nominate her for Veep (the smart money is on a really boring white guy), what role – if any – will she take in the campaign? Should the GOP embrace the Palin effect or pretend it doesn’t exist?

Palin’s national role in the last few days reminds us why she matters. Last Sunday, Dick Cheney told ABC News that he thought putting her on the ticket in 2008 was a mistake because she wasn’t “capable of being President of the United States.” Cheney’s idea of a perfect ticket would probably be Cheney and Cheney, so we might put this one down to ego. But his remarks highlight the fact that Palin’s pick in 2008 is still relevant to the debate over the GOP’s strategy in 2012. The choice is this: do they run a moderate ticket that doesn’t offend anyone or take a risk on a radical ticket that angers some but motivates others? How mavericky does Romney want to be?

The evidence suggests that the maverick strategy didn’t work in 2008. Some will say that the Republicans chose the wrong maverick, and there’s no denying that Palin wasn’t yet ready for the media exposure. But a fair mind can never quite dismiss the Palin gambit out of hand because it was also tried in the wrong year. Frankly, the Democrats could have nominated Roseanne Barr in 2008 and the crazy lady would’ve won by a landslide...

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; chickfila; obama; palin; romney; sarahpalin; teaparty; teapartyrebellion
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1 posted on 08/04/2012 2:03:52 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sarah Palin is not dividing the country, the communists(democrats/news media) are divisive, and blaming.


2 posted on 08/04/2012 2:16:29 AM PDT by exnavy (The time is upon us, fish or cut bait, may God guide your heart.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m thinking the thought of a Conservative pick is a lot less boring than having to read more nonsense out of this chronically leftist rag.

You’ve really got to wonder what the angle is, when they’re addressing the topic of Palin.

I remain unconvinced that Romney needs to involve Palin at all.

It’s not a snub if he doesn’t invite her in. It’s an honor if anything if he does. The absolute last thing I want to see right now, is a draft Sarah campaign for vice-president.

If we want to beat Obama, we need to avoid any such effort. If he didn’t then pick her, it could turn more people off to his candidacy. Those of you who want to see Obama removed from office wish to chance that?

I’m not voting for the guy, and even I don’t want to see that.


3 posted on 08/04/2012 2:24:07 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Vote Obama he's unqualified on so many subjects, citizenship, history, economics, racism, allies...)
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To: DoughtyOne

The Telegraph is leftist?


4 posted on 08/04/2012 2:27:55 AM PDT by abercrombie_guy_38
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To: DoughtyOne

I think a Romney / Palin ticket would be a disaster, for many reasons. Firstly, it’d make the JFK / LBJ relationship look warm and convivial, second, it’d turn off many independent women and low-information voters who bought into the whole “I can see Russia from my house” nonsense or are jealous of her. Third, he doesn’t deserve her as a running mate (neither did Juan McLame, but that’s another story) and fourth, he’d marginalize her from the first day. I could go on and on, as I’m sure you could, too.


5 posted on 08/04/2012 2:35:05 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: abercrombie_guy_38

The Telegraph was good in Ambrose Evans Pritchard’s day. Since then they’ve gone down hill IMO. The Clinton era dynamic was a rather strange thing.

Some of the MSNBC Lefties actually got their start in political commentary and the like, during those days dissecting Clinton and company.

Keith Oberman was quite critical of the Clintons and their antics. I actually liked the guy moving from a Los Angeles sports show, to Clinton era talking head. Then when he got his own show, my goodness how the role changed. Bill Maher used to be quite funny. Now he’s a pig leaking Leftist sewage non-stop.

It’s my take the Telegraph published Ambrose’s reports from the U. S. because it sold papers. It was probably not ideological, because once the Clintons were gone, all pretenses vanished that it was a pro U. S. (style) Conservative paper.

If others have noticed something I haven’t, I encourage them to step in and say so. This has been my take on it.


6 posted on 08/04/2012 2:46:31 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Vote Obama he's unqualified on so many subjects, citizenship, history, economics, racism, allies...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In the interest of fairness, I’m not a fan of Palin. I agree with your take, but that’s going to be seen as me expressing my dislike, rather than my rational aversion to involving her in this campaign. I have admitted mistrust of her, and I do believe that enters into it too. That’s still not my main objection here.

I made the same JFK / Johnson reference to her related to the McCain / Palin ticket, and what an election win would garner for her. I think you’re reasoned in thinking the same thing would take place with Romney. I don’t think it would be quite as bad under Romney. I think he’s smart enough to allow her to be his ombudsman with Conservatives.

McCain would have done his best to belittle her IMO. He’s an angry old ass. He hate’s Conservatives. I don’t see Romney in that light. He does disagree with us, but I don’t see him as a hateful man.

Others that have observed him longer than I might differ on that and be more accurate. Just sayin...


7 posted on 08/04/2012 2:58:16 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Vote Obama he's unqualified on so many subjects, citizenship, history, economics, racism, allies...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Palin is IMHO our premiere Conservative leader... she divided no one. That racist, kenyan, fagot, commie, muslim, usurper, liar and thief has divided America more than at anytime since the Civil War... he may start one of those before he leaves office.

Sarah unites thinking people... even if you don't like her... you know that she makes sense on policy. Those that hate Sarah and love obama will never make it in the future obama has left to us. No matter who wins... no matter what the agenda... even if we do all of the right things... things will get better under a Conservative but we owe more money than exists in the entire world... and we have to shrink government, cut spending and taxes and get the revenue machine making profit and thereby raising revenue intake to the Fed so that we can pay debt down or we will default. Castroti and dependent parasites are never going to make it.

8 posted on 08/04/2012 3:53:29 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: LibLieSlayer

When taking advice from any of the daily rags, read and do the opposite


9 posted on 08/04/2012 4:04:38 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (bb)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The choice of Sarah in 2008 gave a huge spike in the polls to dumbass McCain’s campaign.

The Left and their minions among the presstitutes attacked and villified her successfully.

Sarah’s only faux pas was her cheerleading for women for the sake of women rather than for conservatives. But now she seems to have tuned in to the right formula and she has learned how to handle the press.

To be a force in politics in running for office, Sarah has to find a Reaganesque voice and she seems to be doing that.


10 posted on 08/04/2012 4:06:49 AM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

I disagree. Truth is THE great divider.

As you pointed out, she speaks the truth, and that has caused a great division in our country, those who can handle the truth, and those who can’t.


11 posted on 08/04/2012 4:14:07 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Liberals, at their core, are aggressive & dangerous to everyone around them,)
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To: DoughtyOne
The absolute last thing I want to see right now, is a draft Sarah campaign for vice-president.

The last thing you've wanted to see over the past three years is a President Palin. Period.

12 posted on 08/04/2012 4:27:16 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I, for one, am hoping for a brokered convention that will eventually lead to a title like Mrs, President.


13 posted on 08/04/2012 4:53:57 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Repeal Obamacare, the CITIZENSHIP TAX)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Palin’s national role in the last few days reminds us why she matters”

Romney is still one of the good ole elites. Acknowleging she has ANY power would put him on the outs of the club. He still thinks tea party conservatives will be an easy vote because of the alternative. Boy, have I got news for this boy.


14 posted on 08/04/2012 4:56:05 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: onyx

4 the list ping


15 posted on 08/04/2012 5:04:04 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Within the GOP-E, Sarah Palin is anathema.

Why? She exposed the corruption of the Alaskan GOP.

That cannot be forgiven.

She was good for 10 million votes for McLoser in 2008, and she was responsible for the Tea Party siuccess in 2010, when no one in the GOP-E would even align themselves with the Tea Party. Thanks to Sarah’s advocacy for the Tea Party and her advocacy for conservative candidates across the US in 2010, John Boehner is the Speaker of the House and not Nancy Pelosi.

To thank her, the GOP-E treats here like a leper.

My fervent hope is that on Novemebr 7th, regardless of who wins, a third party is established in this country for Conservatives, so we can make the GOP go the way of the Whigs. It is my opinion that the GOP in the long run cannot be saved; in the short run, it is the only vehicle available to us to save America in 95 days.

Sarah, conservatives, and the candidates that win elections thanks to her star power will form the nucleus of this new party and consign K Street Republicans to the dustbin of history.

They have had their time and failed. It is our time now.


16 posted on 08/04/2012 5:14:15 AM PDT by exit82 (Pass the word: Obama is a FAILURE!! Democrats are the enemies of freedom!)
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To: BuffaloJack
I, for one, am hoping for a brokered convention that will eventually lead to a title like Mrs, President.

I think the term would be "Madame President".

17 posted on 08/04/2012 5:15:21 AM PDT by Tonytitan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
But her negatives are so high...

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18 posted on 08/04/2012 5:20:25 AM PDT by McGruff (Support your local Republican candidates. They are our last line of defense.)
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To: McGruff
Palin is now with the Tea Party...she was never a real Republican...probably more of the old southern democrat.... If the GOP takes over the senate ..I can see her running for senate In Alaska...the leader of the Tea party and maybe leader in the Senate...She is smart like a fox..
19 posted on 08/04/2012 6:07:55 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: exit82

My fervent hope is that on Novemebr 7th, regardless of who wins, a third party is established in this country for Conservatives, so we can make the GOP go the way of the Whigs. It is my opinion that the GOP in the long run cannot be saved; in the short run, it is the only vehicle available to us to save America in 95 days.

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Hear, hear!


20 posted on 08/04/2012 6:13:32 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: exnavy
The media - UK media included - always portrays conservatives as "divisive." You almost never read how Obama is divisive even though, if truth be told, he is the most divisive President I have witnessed in my life time.

A politician is only divisive if they anger liberals you see.

21 posted on 08/04/2012 6:28:35 AM PDT by JaguarXKE (If my Fluffy had a puppy, it would look like the puppy Obama ate!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Allen West would seem to me to be a good choice; but I don’t know for sure. Sarah Palin was a target for a media that refused to vet Obama; she made him look like Ned in the Third Reader.


22 posted on 08/04/2012 7:32:30 AM PDT by Twinkie (Obama; fundamentally turning America into Sodom & Gomorrah one EO at a time.)
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To: Bigg Red; exit82
There needs to be coordination of conservatives, outside of the GOP structure. This includes coordination of congress critters and senators. They need to be weaned away from the GOPer leadership. It has been made abundantly clear to anyone who has been paying attention in the primaries and in the last session of Congress that the GOP-e cannot be trusted. They try to marginalize conservatives candidates, and when it comes to the issues they are all talk and bluster, no action.

It is going to be more likely than not that the next congress, most of the "conservative" media and pundits are going to be a rubber stamp/ go along and get along for a Mitt administration.

23 posted on 08/04/2012 7:38:24 AM PDT by Moorings
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To: ronnie raygun

True dat.

LLS


24 posted on 08/04/2012 9:02:36 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: ronnie raygun

True dat.

LLS


25 posted on 08/04/2012 9:06:07 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: Balding_Eagle

She accentuated the division in that case but the division has been around for 40 years or more.

LLS


26 posted on 08/04/2012 9:07:15 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: Timber Rattler

Aw, sniff, sniff, did somebody wake up with snot on their face this morning?

In early 2009 McCain’s campaign staff attacked Palin. What did McCain do about it? Did he defend her? No.

Within months he was asked if he would endorse her for president for 2012. He refused. Not only did he do that, he failed to say one nice thing about her.

Flip forward a year, and Palin endorsed McCain to return to the Senate of the United States. That move looked more like an example of battered wife syndrome than anything else. But it was backing the worst Republican we have had in my lifetime that bothered me the most.

So have I wanted Palin to be president for the last two years, not three as you have stated? No.

Palin has admitted that her fix for illegal immigration is to register them so they can stay here and work. Do I want to support someone for the presidency that has announced they want all illegals to stay here so they can continue to kill, rape, molest, rob, burgle, sap our nation’s health and educations systems dry, and take our citizen’s jobs for pennies on the dollar? No.

Is she the leader of the Tea Party? No. She holds no position whatsoever with the Tea Party?

Are her endorsements of Republicans running for office always sound? No. I’ve already addressed one person she screwed up on, and there have been others.

So no, I don’t want Sarah Palin to be president. I don’t want her to be president for some of the same reasons I don’t want other misguided soles to be president.


27 posted on 08/04/2012 9:41:55 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Vote Obama he's unqualified on so many subjects, citizenship, history, economics, racism, allies...)
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To: DoughtyOne

Just because they wear improper footwear does not make them unqualified for the presidency.


28 posted on 08/04/2012 9:45:21 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: Moorings

I agree with all of your points.


29 posted on 08/04/2012 9:56:23 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Hey! ;^)


30 posted on 08/04/2012 9:58:33 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Vote Obama he's unqualified on so many subjects, citizenship, history, economics, racism, allies...)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Sorry about that...

Hay! ;^)


31 posted on 08/04/2012 9:59:16 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Vote Obama he's unqualified on so many subjects, citizenship, history, economics, racism, allies...)
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To: DoughtyOne

I’s just funnin’ ya.


32 posted on 08/04/2012 10:02:17 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Palin Slams Media, Says She's 'Comfortable' Not Speaking at Convention

In a wide-ranging interview with FNC's Eric Bolling yesterday, Governor Sarah Palin said that the Romney camp has been in touch regarding the convention, but that nothing is yet confirmed. She also said that she "just want[s] to help" and, like Newt Gingrich, is comfortable with the idea of "speaking or not."

The video is below. This excerpt starts at 3:20:

Sometimes helping means you step aside and certainly you don’t invite yourself into a leadership or speakership type role at a convention like this. You try to work with the strategy the campaign has in place, and evidently Romney's campaign has a strategy that they will implement. And whether I'm there or not as a speaker, I'm comfortable either way just like Newt Gingrich said he was comfortable either way -- speaking or not.

Palin also made clear that she and Governor Romney have a good relationship:

Speaking personally, there is no hatchet to bury or olive branch that needs to be passed between Mitt Romney and myself. We have a good relationship and I have great respect for him and I am so thankful the GOP has a strong candidate who understands the private sector and what it takes to get the economy roaring again.

This is gracious of the Governor, but I personally think Romney would be insane not to give the biggest and most effective star in the conservative movement the best speaking slot he possibly can.

Like 2010, 2012 is going to be a turn out/base election and no one turns us conservatives out like Sarah Palin.

Also of note in the interview is what the Governor had to say about the corrupt media:

I and others warned GOP strategists and GOP candidates that no matter who that GOP nominee would be coming out of our primary process, they would have to run against -- not just President Obama and his billion dollar campaign war chest … this nominee of ours would have to run against the lapdogs in the mainstream media and the yellow journalism they practice. ….

The irony I think is that so many in the GOP establishment sat back on the sidelines -- they were just kind of sucking it all in when this was happening to other people in the party in the last four years. Now they’re getting a taste of it and they’re realizing what it is we've been warning them about. The media attacking Palin and her family is just evil being evil. I will, however, never forgive those in the Republican Party who stood on the sidelines as this was happening. And the ones who joined in can go straight to hell.

Deep breath.

Okay, to Palin's point about the media's behavior towards Mitt Romney, she's exactly right. All those wobbly Republicans who think the media can be appeased by a more moderate candidate or moderate positions are being proved wrong this very day. The media's in full-throated destroy mode against this Massachusetts Moderate, just as they would have been had we nominated someone more conservative.

To Romney's great credit, he understand this and isn't jumping into media traps as we saw McCain do time and again in 2008.

But when I hear my fellow Republicans affirm a media narrative about Romney's taxes or how he handled the press corps during his overseas trip, that's the same old dangerous ignorance at play that foolishly assumes that surrendering to narratives is a way to appease the media when, in fact, that surrender is really a trap.

Nothing will ever placate the media. Romney could've answered a gajillion questions asked by the crybaby press corps, and they still would've manufactured whatever they had to in order to declare his overseas venture a failure. Romney could release every tax return he's filed since birth, and the media would still manufacture a way to paint his as shady and dishonest.

The polls show that Romney is doing just fine. He's keeping Obama under 50, well under 50, and has 97 days to roll out the ideas that will show voters he's the acceptable alternative to this complete failure of a president. Romney can also start to finally spend all this money he's been precluded from spending until the convention -- which is only 25 days away.

Follow John Nolte on Twitter @NolteNC

33 posted on 08/04/2012 10:21:15 AM PDT by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

No problem. I laughed at my mistake. Take care...


34 posted on 08/04/2012 10:47:05 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Vote Obama he's unqualified on so many subjects, citizenship, history, economics, racism, allies...)
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To: Bigg Red; exit82
My fervent hope is that on Novemebr 7th, regardless of who wins, a third party is established in this country for Conservatives, so we can make the GOP go the way of the Whigs. It is my opinion that the GOP in the long run cannot be saved; in the short run, it is the only vehicle available to us to save America in 95 days.

What you said and well worth repeating!

35 posted on 08/04/2012 10:52:12 AM PDT by Marathoner (Palin/West 2012. Yes, I'm dreaming but as Pete said to Rudy, "Dreams are what make life tolerable.")
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To: exit82

Or we could take over the Republican Party at the precinct level, then county and state. By then, we’d be in control and the GOP-e would have no say-so.


36 posted on 08/04/2012 12:04:38 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

I think Romney should pick her as “Energy Secretary”. She has a lot of experience in that area .. and she is a definite reformer. This is one of the magic pills needed to get the energy dept headed in the right direction. And .. she should have carte blanc to FIRE ANY AND ALL FORMER OBAMA APPOINTEES.

After she gets through cleaning up Energy, she could start on EPA or GSA; or maybe all of the rest of Obama’s “czars’” criminal activity.

This leaves Mitt free to get the country moving by lowering taxes and removing burdensom regulations for small businesses .. instead of having to do the dirty work of cleaning up the mess Obama has left behind.

I love Cheney, but he’s wrong about who was the “mistake” on the ‘08 ticket .. it wasn’t Sarah.

The main secret is getting repubs, conservatives, etc., to the polls so we can clean out the Congress too. If we don’t get a reformer-attitude congress this next go-around - we could be in for a lot of trouble. We need enough of them to outshout the old timers who think they know everything - but they’re actually a real part of the problem.

And .. maybe we need a new Speaker of the House .. somebody who is not so friendly with the corrupt and disgusting dems who want to tear this country apart .. and deep-sixing that monstrousity of Obamacare.


37 posted on 08/04/2012 12:33:54 PM PDT by CyberAnt ("America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth".)
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To: DoughtyOne; Bigtigermike; Al B.; sarah fan UK; Sarah Barracuda

Your PDS finally seeps back out into the open. It’s hard to put aside old habits isn’t it?


38 posted on 08/04/2012 2:04:47 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Timber Rattler

And this from a boob who’s so stupid he thinks we are buying off on the idea he’s only been here eight months.

Get your own house in order SproutBait.


39 posted on 08/04/2012 3:11:39 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Vote Obama he's unqualified on so many subjects, citizenship, history, economics, racism, allies...)
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