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Chick-fil-A flap reveals true gay agenda
Washington Times ^ | 8/3/2012 | Jeffrey T. Kuhner

Posted on 08/04/2012 3:40:28 AM PDT by markomalley

The homosexual lobby wants to outlaw Christianity. This is the real meaning behind the uproar over Chick-fil-A. The chicken sandwich franchise has become a lightning rod for the culture war. Liberals despise it; conservatives back it. Supporters of gay marriage want to prevent the Atlanta-based chain from expanding, demanding new restaurant permits be denied.

The reason: Its CEO Dan Cathy opposes same-sex marriage. In an interview with the Baptist Press, Mr. Cathy was asked his views on the issue. He said that he supports the “biblical definition of the family unit.” Meaning — horror of all horrors — that Mr. Cathy believes marriage should be between a man and a woman. That such a common-sense view could be controversial in today’s America shows how far society has fallen.

Anti-Christian activists immediately called for a boycott of Chick-fil-A. Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel publicly vilified the chain. He claimed that Chick-fil-A does not share “Chicago values.” Mr. Emanuel said the restaurant was not welcome in the Windy City. Yet, he warmly embraced Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan. According to Mr. Emanuel, a Christian family man expressing his private opinion defending traditional marriage is an extremist, while a radical black nationalist and vile anti-Semite is acceptable.

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The left’s goal is to reduce Christians to permanent second-class citizens. Now they are coming for our freedom of speech. This is Christophobia — the dominant bigotry of our time. Christians unite, before it’s too late.

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1 posted on 08/04/2012 3:40:34 AM PDT by markomalley
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2 posted on 08/04/2012 3:46:18 AM PDT by narses
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To: narses

They stepped in it, all of them! This is all about elected officials using the power and thier office to dictate policy as they seem fit. This is all about freedom of speech not gay rights. Would anyone of these cowards stand up to a muslim business who feels the same way? Would they pull the same nonsense with a gay business wanting to open in a heterosexual neighborhood? Political scum searching for votes and the scumedia promoting this as intolerance only when it works to thier advantage.


3 posted on 08/04/2012 3:55:34 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (bb)
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To: markomalley
Well, God did say that Christians are to be the salt of the world and what does salt do? It stings and burns.

The owner of Chik-fil-A is obeying God by standing by Scripture and refusing to back down or compromise on the Word of God. Of course Satan is going to target him and try to shut him down and destroy him.

Who knows how many people have come to Christ because of this man's courage? The god of this age isn't just going to sit idly by and allow that to happen.

4 posted on 08/04/2012 3:55:34 AM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta (In the last days, mockers will come with their mocking... (2 Peter 3:3))
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To: markomalley

AFAIK, Mr. Cathy never said he wouldn’t sell a sandwich to a starving queer, did he?


5 posted on 08/04/2012 4:07:19 AM PDT by metesky (Brethren, leave us go amongst them! - Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond, The Searchers)
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To: markomalley
The left’s goal is to reduce Christians to permanent second-class citizens. Now they are coming for our freedom of speech. This is Christophobia — the dominant bigotry of our time.

The left can "try" to squash Christianity but it will never happen. It hasn't been able to happen for two thousand years! The culture is won by Christianity because Free Will is one of the most inviolable tenants of the religion. You can't logically or emotionally argue against this fact.

The MSM is starting to feel the effects a rude awakening because reality trumps their faux perceptions. The left can try to force all these anti-American socialistic ideas, but they will not truly take over a free people.

6 posted on 08/04/2012 4:12:16 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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To: markomalley

Every elected official and passive ‘supporter of the entire homosexual ‘rights’ movement should be made to publicly watch gay porn.

I’m serious as I can be. In fact, EVERYONE should just to better understand what it is that has taken over this country. The sex is what it’s about. Take away the sex and what remains? Two REALLY good friends. At best.

So as long as people refuse to really think and UNDERSTAND what ‘homosexuality’ is all about, there’s little hope to put it back in the closet. As long as the homos can keep people from thinking about the sex and keep them fixated on funny ‘TV gays’, they will win eventually.


7 posted on 08/04/2012 4:12:24 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: markomalley
To achieve control of a free people, one must undermine three things: 1) the family, 2) the church, and 3) private property. If you destroy those three things, people are left only with the state. The Soviets knew this and launched campaigns in America and elsewhere on all three of those fronts. The American Founders knew this and declared that the U.S. Constitution is a document sufficient to govern only a moral people (referring of course to the Judeo-Christian morality of our heritage). No document is sufficient to govern an immoral people - only a tyrant can do that. The French learned this painful lesson after their amoral, atheistic revolution turned in on itself in the 1780s.

This is the danger of so-called "fiscal conservatism" that thinks we can disengage on issues of morality. That road leads to the guillotine.

8 posted on 08/04/2012 4:12:24 AM PDT by LaserJock
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To: LaserJock

“This is the danger of so-called “fiscal conservatism” that thinks we can disengage on issues of morality. That road leads to the guillotine.”

Bravo to you for saying that.


9 posted on 08/04/2012 4:17:24 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: markomalley

Thank you for posting this excellent piece.


10 posted on 08/04/2012 4:18:55 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: markomalley

BINGO!!!


11 posted on 08/04/2012 4:27:46 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: markomalley

Did anyone else notice how nobody asked President Obama about the Chick Fil-A controversey and where he stands?

On another note, it is unfortunate that there are too many who see this a their generations’ civil rights issue.


12 posted on 08/04/2012 4:30:58 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: markomalley
In other words, Mr. Cathy’s sin — Chick-fil-A’s sin — is that he is a Christian traditionalist in an increasingly pagan country.

Can I have an 'Amen' ?

13 posted on 08/04/2012 4:34:48 AM PDT by BluH2o
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To: markomalley

Solution-—elect conservative Christians en masse to all offices of the government nationwide. Then the godless leftists cannot institute what they cannot start—at least legislatively.


14 posted on 08/04/2012 4:36:56 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: markomalley
I have this in my rear window of my truck. It gets favorable comments. We are a small, conservative town, our CFA had no kissers yesterday. Photobucket
15 posted on 08/04/2012 4:41:05 AM PDT by rightly_dividing (We are Dan Cathy, Ted Cruz, and Scott Walker, and November is drawing close!.)
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To: LaserJock
This is the danger of so-called "fiscal conservatism" that thinks we can disengage on issues of morality. That road leads to the guillotine.

Moronic. Keeping social issues out of the hands of the federal government government is NOT "the road to the guillotine. We've done pretty well for over 200 years without having psychotic "progressives" or equally oppressive social conservatives telling us how to view certain aspects of our lives. Keep government small, leave the social conversations for family and church and civic events and cultural influences, and let SOCIETY determine our culture, NOT power-craving corrupt idiots who give not one whit of concern to our future as a civilization. Budget debates have no need for social inputs. Allowing them just leads to unneeded grandstanding.

16 posted on 08/04/2012 4:42:20 AM PDT by Teacher317 ('Tis time to fear when tyrants seem to kiss.)
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To: markomalley

GAYS...”demanding new restaurant permits be denied.”

On what grounds? This guy is entitled to his opinion and beliefs. It’s his business that he built. (Despite the comments of Commissar Obama)

When Hollywood actors speak their minds - we all suppose to continue to go their movies and not boycott them. What’s the difference?

Well - it’s plain to see. Liberals can do whatever they want and hold the rest of us accountable - but as soon as we express our own beliefs like they do - we are not tolerated.

Proves that the liberal mindset is dysfunctional.

Good post!


17 posted on 08/04/2012 4:44:15 AM PDT by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html)
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To: markomalley

Simply astounding how modern, godless mankind has no fear of God’s wrath for arrogantly promoting wickedness.

http://www.biblebelievers.com/misc_periodical_articles/our-hope_001.html


18 posted on 08/04/2012 4:46:38 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: sirchtruth

There needs to be a total boycott of every news channel in the US.

I’m not saying log onto websites and other outside news agencies to stay informed.

But the US Media needs to be put in their place. They think they are above and beyond the rest of us - every woman on there has bleached blonde hair except for a few - and they are always flanked by two males on the side - where the woman is center front with some short dress on and tanned legs...that’s not news - it’s Entertainment Tonight!

I can’t stand to watch it - even FOX - It takes [forever] for them to get to a story and actually inform me. It’s far easier for me to get on News Now and other News websites around the globe and see what’s going on - what news stories the US MSM isn’t covering — and I’m better prepared than they are...

Oh - and FREE REPUBLIC — this is a mainstay in my daily political information venue!


19 posted on 08/04/2012 4:50:49 AM PDT by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html)
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To: Teacher317

We’ve done pretty well for over 200 years without having psychotic “progressives” or equally oppressive social conservatives telling us how to view certain aspects of our lives.”

You got the second half of that dead wrong. Our Culture DID hew to the Judeo/Christian view of morality for most of the history of this nation. Calling someone moronic will not change that.


20 posted on 08/04/2012 5:00:18 AM PDT by TalBlack
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To: LaserJock

Great post!


21 posted on 08/04/2012 5:09:30 AM PDT by Josephat (`)
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To: BluH2o
Can I have an 'Amen' ?

AMEN!
22 posted on 08/04/2012 5:11:23 AM PDT by gatechie
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To: Teacher317

what about when the budget being discussed includes funding for murdering babies?


23 posted on 08/04/2012 5:14:35 AM PDT by Josephat (`)
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To: markomalley
The last time homos got this level of power they thought B-B-Qing Jews and anyone else that disagreed with them was a good idea.

They will do it again.

24 posted on 08/04/2012 5:14:43 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: Teacher317; LaserJock

Unfortunately, as time goes by, I find that “Fiscal Conservatives” tend to be neither.


25 posted on 08/04/2012 5:15:05 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Just because someone has an "R" next to their name, does not make them a Conservative)
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To: Teacher317

So we don’t need to concern ourselves with moral issues?

Abortion is a moral issue and is governed by man-made laws. How do you feel about Planned Parenthood? I see you support the American Cancer Society, which supports PP.

http://www.lifenews.com/2007/03/13/nat-2982/

Do you support abortion?

John Adams wrote, “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”
George Washington declared in his Farewell Address, “Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports.” Later in his Farewell Address Washington went on to say, “Reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principles.”


26 posted on 08/04/2012 5:21:57 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: TalBlack

AMEN!


27 posted on 08/04/2012 5:27:40 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: markomalley

I will repost this because I believe it is relevant:

The Left’s culture is based upon moral relativism. It is a very seductive morality because it functions as a self centered pursuit of pleasure. Moral relativism is a set-up for Marxism. By making ones moral thinking no more important than the other you set the stage for political, economic, legal and material egalitarianism. Egalitarianism is a system which renders human beings as equal. To reach such a Utopian society, one utilizes the state to redistribute all aspects of human life until all are equal.

Just a side light: The goal of gay marriage is the egalitarian treatment of human relationships. When the gay relationship is equal to the heterosexual relationship, the egalitarian objective is accomplished.

The opposition by the gay community and their abortionist cohorts to the Christian Church is an effort to transform society by either eliminating or retooling the Church. When you put everything they are doing into one description, they are minimizing the importance of life that is produced by the relationship between a man and a woman. Once life is redefined by the egalitarian paradigm, life does not have any more protection or significance than that which is determined by the state.

Life produced by a man and a woman no longer has that level of significance that our culture has given it through the ages. This is a part of the Marxist strategy. Human life must no longer have that transcendent importance that sets it above the state. Human life is now the property of the state to define as it wants and to use as it sees fit.

As the love relationship of heterosexual marriage and the beginning of human life are being attacked by the Marxist’s effort to transform our society, one can only wonder what’s next?


28 posted on 08/04/2012 5:31:25 AM PDT by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: Norm Lenhart
Every elected official and passive ‘supporter of the entire homosexual ‘rights’
movement should be made to publicly watch gay porn.


With their Children and Grandparents in the same room.
If they think it's good enough for schools then.....

America is paying attention this election but I don't think the RATs are
expecting the outcome. We'll deal with Boehner after.

29 posted on 08/04/2012 5:34:24 AM PDT by MaxMax
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To: jonrick46
As the love relationship of heterosexual marriage and the beginning of human life are being attacked by the Marxist’s effort to transform our society, one can only wonder what’s next?

For the last 160 years--slavery, darkness and death. With over 100 million souls dispatched and counting.

By the way--excellent post--you nailed the entire moral bankruptcy of Marxism, Communism,the Left, the mainstream media and the Democrat Party.

Well done.

30 posted on 08/04/2012 5:36:42 AM PDT by exit82 (Pass the word: Obama is a FAILURE!! Democrats are the enemies of freedom!)
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To: markomalley
The homosexual lobby wants to outlaw Christianity.

The Homosexual Nazis made me wear this armband!
(white background, cross in the middle)

31 posted on 08/04/2012 5:43:12 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (We were the tea party before there was a tea party. - Jim Robinson)
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To: rightly_dividing

Thanks.. Just downloaded and printed up some of these for my vehicles.


32 posted on 08/04/2012 5:53:17 AM PDT by CarmichaelPatriot
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To: markomalley
After decades of people swapping lies about the Catholic Church back and forth like so many Poke’ Man cards, who really didn't think the same attack machine wouldn't go after all Christians?

Once comedians got major laughs by attacking Catholics, why wouldn't they broaden their routine to include all Christians and why wouldn't everyone with an anti-Christ agenda see the laughing crowds as a signal to start their own anti-Christ attacks? Once it's socially acceptable to attack the twenty percent of the Christian population who are Catholic, it's socially acceptable to attack all Christians who don't buy into the "go along to get along" meme. The next time someone starts in on Christians in general, mentally substitute “Catholic” for "Christian" in what they're saying and ask yourself if you'd object to what's being said if it were only about Catholics. Likewise, the next time you hear jokes and slanders about Catholics, mentally substitute "Christian" for "Catholic" and you'll be hearing what the person talking is really saying.

Half the people who claim to be Christian have ignored deliberate lies and twisted tales about Catholics for so long that they're already immune to a great deal of the anti-Christian garbage at large in society. For example, I know a good number of people who go to church every Sunday and represent themselves as solid Christians. They have no problem renting and laughing at Dogma, though, or laughing at a comedian who builds half his routine around jokes about the Catholic Church. Whether you're Catholic or not, it's time people realized that those aren't "only" attacks on the Catholic Church; they're methodical attacks on Christianity and Christ.

If the fascist crowd can intimidate the majority of Christians into not standing for their faith intimidating them into not defying the fascist agenda is easy. Things of this nature are ground exceedingly fine, so it can't be much longer before all the popular anti-Catholic lies so many who claim to be Christian go along with get turned on Christians in general, one denomination or group at a time. You reap what you sow and it's harvest time for the folks who have long ignored lies about Catholicism, or gone along with portraying someone doesn't abide by Church teaching as a typical Catholic.

As a nation we've ignored decade after decade of carefully crafted attacks aimed at dividing the population into mutually antagonistic groups. Now that we're divided up a hundred different ways, either we'll unite or they'll conquer. The most logical place to start unifying is around Christ our King.

JMHO

33 posted on 08/04/2012 5:59:09 AM PDT by Rashputin (Only Newt can defeat both the Fascist democrats and the Vichy GOP)
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To: markomalley
In other words, Mr. Cathy’s sin — Chick-fil-A’s sin — is that he is a Christian traditionalist in an increasingly pagan country.

The pagans are becoming very assertive too because they know they have the power of government--as well as the media--behind their positions.

34 posted on 08/04/2012 6:05:15 AM PDT by madprof98
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To: metesky; All

“AFAIK, Mr. Cathy never said he wouldn’t sell a sandwich to a starving queer, did he?”

He specifically said they hire and serve every person with dignity.

They went the extra mile during the protests, serving FREE cups of ice water to the protesters.


35 posted on 08/04/2012 6:09:10 AM PDT by redinIllinois (Pro-life, accountant, gun-totin' grandma - multi issue voter)
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To: LaserJock
undermine three things: 1) the family, 2) the church, and 3) private property.

And the economy. One of the five pillars of an economy is raw materials/natural resources. The attack on oil/coal/natural gas production is obvious.

36 posted on 08/04/2012 6:14:34 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (We were the tea party before there was a tea party. - Jim Robinson)
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To: Rashputin

That company was being attacked decades ago for being openly Christian and closing on Sunday. I was told then by ardent leftists and atheists that they had no right to do this. The Ten Commandments in courthouses, Christmas displays on the public square, prayer in schools ... decades. Most of my life, in fact.

Bringing denominations into this does not serve any good purpose. It serves to divide. All Christian denominations have been under attack and many have been corrupted, some verging upon irretrievably so, it would appear. Others reached a precipice of sorts with infiltration and are now fighting back, to their credit. Others still held true to God’s Word and are thriving. These especially are the object of leftist wrath today.

Leave the theological debate over differences for a different discussion and debate. Unity here is highly appropriate and necessary. We have far more common ground than disagreements.

Leave it for another day.


37 posted on 08/04/2012 6:20:00 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Teacher317
“Keeping social issues out of the hands of the federal government government is NOT “the road to the guillotine.”

That's a strawman. That's not what I said. In fact, I said just the opposite. If the people refuse to enforce a strong moral code in society independent of government, then we compel the government to enforce its own version of morality. That's the environment that produces long lines of Christians, Jews, Muslims, the rich, radio talk show hosts, libertarians, etc. waiting for their turn with the headsman. The tyranny of the mob.

This is why we must remain engaged on enforcing a strong, common Judeo Cristian moral code in society - not government. That is the necessary, not optional, corollary of small government.

Let me try to guess the next straw man. I am not saying everyone needs to be a Christian. That's not what I just said. Religious tolerance, however, is a Christian concept and part of that moral code I'm talking about. Those who think atheism is a tolerant religion have never attempted to be a Christian or a Jew in a atheistic state. Even agnosticism often tends to be thinly veiled atheism and thus becomes hostile to other forms of religion. A tolerant secular government is not possible without this moral code I'm talking about.

The bottom line is that if we all can't converge on some basic civilized moral principles, regardless of our religion, then we're doomed to become subjects, not citizens. These include, but are not limited to:

1) Childbirth out of wedlock is bad and should be shunned (notice I didn't say outlawed),

2) Able bodied adults living off the fruits of other peoples labor is bad a should be shunned

3) Charity for those in need, however, is good and should be encouraged,

4) Marriage exists to serve the needs of children by assuring as many as possible have both a Mom and a Dad raising them. It does not exist to serve the selfish or sexual needs of the people getting married. Thus, the definition of marriage that best serves society is one man, one woman in a lifelong contract.

5) Honesty is good and liars should be shunned (notice I didn't say outlawed outside of perjury of course),

6) Adultery is bad and should be shunned (notice I didn't say outlawed)

7) selfishness and brazenly flaunting your wealth is bad and should be shunned (notice I didn't say outlawed)

We can and do haggle over that list all day long, but that's not my point. The point is if we don't make morality part of small government conservatism, then we're failing to learn from history.

38 posted on 08/04/2012 6:35:18 AM PDT by LaserJock
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To: CarmichaelPatriot

I forgot to remember the name of the freeper that I stole this from to credit him/her.

I printed it full page size and put it on a thin cardboard, placing it right behind my head so as not to obstruct my rear vision. Then I drove down to our CFA yesterday to see if any kissing queers were there.


39 posted on 08/04/2012 6:38:12 AM PDT by rightly_dividing (We are Dan Cathy, Ted Cruz, and Scott Walker, and November is drawing close!.)
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To: VRW Conspirator

“And the economy. One of the five pillars of an economy is raw materials/natural resources. The attack on oil/coal/natural gas production is obvious.”

I concur. I was placing all of that under the broad category of “property,” but it could indeed be separate. We could also use the word “industry” referring both to an individual’s labor, and also to private business.


40 posted on 08/04/2012 6:42:53 AM PDT by LaserJock
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To: markomalley

A lot of us were aware of the true agenda when they had the sodomy laws struck down by imploring to the masses that they just wanted to be left alone and pursue their lovers in private and that they would never presume to try and make traditional marriage less that what it was. LIARS!


41 posted on 08/04/2012 6:59:50 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: markomalley

Great article by Kuhner which exposes the true agenda of the left. To destroy truth and everything that is pure, innocent, noble and good. Their goal is the total destruction of Christ and the absolute standard of His Word.

As Kuhner notes:

And that is precisely the problem. Mr. Cathy simply expressed his personal view — as a devout Christian — on marriage. For this, progressives want to boycott and if possible economically cripple the company. In other words, Mr. Cathy’s sin — Chick-fil-A’s sin — is that he is a Christian traditionalist in an increasingly pagan country.********

This is nothing new, and they as many before them will fail miserably. His Word is an anvil which has worn out many a hammer.


42 posted on 08/04/2012 7:00:59 AM PDT by bereanway
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To: markomalley

Normalizing gender confusion seems like such a great idea.


43 posted on 08/04/2012 7:09:01 AM PDT by killermosquito (Buffalo, Detroit (and eventually France) is what you get when liberalism runs its course.)
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To: RegulatorCountry
"Leave the theological debate over differences for a different discussion and debate."

That's the point. Christians have allowed themselves to become easy prey for those who are anti-Christ and need to think through how that happened.

Recognizing how you were outmaneuvered and divided by your enemies due to ongoing differences that are small by comparison with what our enemies believe is not a theological discussion or anything of the kind. It's an easily understood example of what has been going on that helps illustrate what we're up against so we can avoid being such easy targets in the future.

Regards

44 posted on 08/04/2012 7:20:36 AM PDT by Rashputin (Only Newt can defeat both the Fascist democrats and the Vichy GOP)
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To: markomalley

A man cannot have two masters. Traditional churches must make it clear to liberals that they may either be a Christian or a Jew, or they may be a socialist, but they cannot be both.

Christians and Jews both worship God, as the creator, definer, and ultimate authority of the entire universe. Socialists worship a false god they call “mankind”, the totality of men and women, as the only thing of importance in the world or the entire universe. In doing so they inherently disavow a belief in God.

At several times in the Pentateuch of the Bible, men try to pretend that their insignificant existences elevate them to the level of God, and this is almost unique among offenses in how often it invokes the wrath of God.

To this day, men are still at it. And though God made it clear that He will no longer destroy the Earth because of it, He is under no other limits in how He deals with the affront.

So it is the wise man, and the wise church, that steers away from such people.


45 posted on 08/04/2012 7:38:48 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: markomalley

Someone else gets it... Almost.
The homosexual lobby isn’t the entity seeking to outlaw Christianity. The left is USING the homos as a weapon to do this.


46 posted on 08/04/2012 7:42:29 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Teacher317
Moronic. Keeping social issues out of the hands of the federal government government is NOT "the road to the guillotine.

WRONG -the damage already done MUST be reversed. Unless there is another revolution the reversal must be done at the level of government it was wrought. Sticking our heads in the sand and hoping things will change will not get the job done -our enemy has chosen the battlefield -retreat is NOT an option.

47 posted on 08/04/2012 7:51:49 AM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: markomalley

What the politicians did is blatant religious discrimination. It is fascist and Nazi-like in nature. If you don’t agree with their ideology then you don’t have freedom. This is very much how things started in Germany, with the early attacks on priests and business owners whose beliefs were in contradiction to Hitler’s vision.


48 posted on 08/04/2012 8:01:50 AM PDT by EBH (Obama took away your American Dreams and replaced them with "Dreams from My (his) Father".)
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To: Teacher317; LaserJock

“Moronic. Keeping social issues out of the hands of the federal government government is NOT “the road to the guillotine. We’ve done pretty well for over 200 years without having psychotic “progressives” or equally oppressive social conservatives telling us how to view certain aspects of our lives.”

Actually, for most of our history, it was ILLEGAL to commit homosexual acts.

No one is suggesting we have a federal Dept of Bedroom Affairs to monitor all our bedrooms. However, the queers are not interested in privacy. They want to flaunt their perversion everywhere, and demand we approve. Renting out a basement apartment in your house? You can’t refuse a couple of faggots. Own a business taking wedding pictures? You cannot deny service to faggots.

I used to be a military officer. Suppose someone in today’s US military asks you what you think of gay marriage. If you support it, fine! If you oppose it, you could find yourself punished for your lack of tolerance. A military officer who wore a uniform to a Tea Part event would face court-martial. Wear one to a gay pride parade, and the Pentagon will applaud.

What about plural marriages? Those were found to be unconstitutional in the 1800s...yet there is far greater support for polygamy in both the Bible and under natural law than there is for homosexuality.

Fiscal conservatism is based on self restraint - saving, doing without something you want so you can pay for something you need, agreeing to pay your own bills instead of expecting someone else to do it. Fiscal conservatism cannot exist in a populace that knows no self-restraint.

“Anything goes” leads to anarchy, fiscal ruin and God’s judgment. An immoral people will never act fiscally responsible.


49 posted on 08/04/2012 8:26:08 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Liberalism: "Ex faslo quodlibet" - from falseness, anything follows)
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To: Teacher317
I usually enjoy the back-and-forth between FReepers, but not your initial reply to LaserJock.

Why must the first word in your reply be Moronic?

Your arguments here might carry more weight and better engage other FReepers in discussion if you didn't begin your reply by calling someone a moron for his/her viewpoint.

50 posted on 08/04/2012 10:09:29 AM PDT by Buffalo Bob
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