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‘Open carry’ gun lawsuit against Warren settled(MI)
dailytribune.com ^ | 4 August, 2012 | Norb Franz

Posted on 08/04/2012 6:31:28 PM PDT by marktwain

The Warren resident who claims four of the city’s police officers violated his constitutional rights to openly carry a firearm has settled his lawsuit against the city.

Haman, 54, sued Warren last year in U.S. District Court and initially sought a $100,000 judgment and $500,000 in punitive or exemplary damages. He recently agreed to accept $5,000. More importantly, he said, the city’s police officers will undergo training about “open carry” practices.

On Aug. 25, 2009, Haman was walking from a local drug store on 12 Mile at Hoover roads with his semi-automatic pistol holstered at his waist, when a patrolman drove up to him quickly. Haman said the officer pointed a pistol at him through an open passenger window and then came to a stop. Haman said he immediately raised his hands.

The Warren man was ordered to lie on his stomach, hands stretched to his sides. He was handcuffed and three additional officers in two patrol cars arrived. Haman said that when he asked officers why he was stopped, one pointed out that he was walking down the street with a gun.

Haman said he was legally practicing “open carry.”

Police took his .45-caliber handgun and ammunition, and asked if he had documentation for the weapon. Haman said he showed a purchase receipt and a concealed-weapon permit, which is not required for open carry.

In a police video of the incident, an officer is heard telling Haman: “You should at least call us and tell us what you’re doing. Walking around like this is just going to get you hurt somehow.

“You’re just asking for trouble, brother.”


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: banglist; mi; opencarry; settlement
Another settlement that requires the training of officers to respect constitutional rights.
1 posted on 08/04/2012 6:31:41 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

LEOs should know what Constitutional rights entail. If they don’t they should voluntarily go on unpaid leave until they do know.


2 posted on 08/04/2012 6:35:58 PM PDT by chooseascreennamepat (You can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: marktwain

The time for settling these lawsuits is over. Until a few street cops are bankrupted by Civil Rights lawsuits and judgements against them this crap will continue to happen..

Have these flat-foot thugs with badges held personally liable. Maybe when their kids are living in cardboard boxes under bridges, the word will get around.


3 posted on 08/04/2012 6:39:40 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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Another open carry win.

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4 posted on 08/04/2012 6:40:42 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: marktwain

“the city’s police officers will undergo training about “open carry” practices.”

I bet.


5 posted on 08/04/2012 6:44:23 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: marktwain
He should have held out for enough money to make them wince and then donated the money to the NRA or the Second Amendment Foundation or such..
6 posted on 08/04/2012 6:48:57 PM PDT by mongo141 (Revolution ver. 2.0, just a matter of when, not a matter of if!)
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To: Parley Baer

I think they need “sensitivity” and “embracing diversity” training.


7 posted on 08/04/2012 7:01:12 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: marktwain

bttt


8 posted on 08/04/2012 7:14:27 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (Nobody made a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little. EdmondBurke)
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To: marktwain

I think he settled for far too little.

The city is never even going to notice $5000, and the training requirement will be a joke.

Should have held out for $15k from the city, $1000 each for the cops involved and a judicially appointed monitor for the training program.


9 posted on 08/04/2012 7:29:40 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: marktwain
what magnitude of stooopid do these doughnut eaters have to be to NOT know a criminal wouldn't be openly carrying a pistol???
10 posted on 08/04/2012 8:16:17 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Lurker

Well said. They are loathsome filth. And they’re fat and stupid. And they’re unionized welfare begging trash. I think that covers most of it.


11 posted on 08/04/2012 8:23:59 PM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: Chode

Pigs are not known for their brains. Mostly they wallow in their own filth.


12 posted on 08/04/2012 8:25:19 PM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: chooseascreennamepat
LEOs should know what Constitutional rights entail. If they don’t they should voluntarily go on unpaid leave until they do know.

Far too many LEOs are akin to Obama and other leftists - they don't give a squat about Constitutional Rights because their opinions should supercede all...

13 posted on 08/05/2012 4:14:14 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: Parley Baer

“the city’s police officers will undergo training about “open carry” practices.”

“I bet.”

I bet if the city had to fork over $600,000 their cops would have gotten training about how not to make the city liable again.


14 posted on 08/05/2012 5:14:21 AM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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