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Loughner to Plead Guilty in Giffords Shooting, Official Says
The Wall Street Journal ^ | August 4, 2012 | Evan Perez

Posted on 08/04/2012 6:54:33 PM PDT by sitetest

Jared Loughner, the young Tucson man accused of shooting Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and killing six people, is set to plead guilty Tuesday, an official familiar with the case said Saturday.

A psychologist appointed by the court is expected to say at the hearing that he is competent to plead guilty, the official said. A previously scheduled status hearing has been changed to a change-of-plea hearing.

In February, the psychologist said Mr. Loughner, a diagnosed schizophrenic, remained incompetent to stand trial. But she said at the time that the defendant was making progress toward competency, according to federal Judge Larry A. Burns, who is hearing the case.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gabygiffords; giffords; jaredloughner; larryaburns; larryburns; loughner; tucsonshooting

1 posted on 08/04/2012 6:54:42 PM PDT by sitetest
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To: sitetest

They aren’t charging him in the death of the judge he killed?


2 posted on 08/04/2012 6:57:04 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

I didn’t see mention of it in the article. It was a brief article.


3 posted on 08/04/2012 6:59:09 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: nickcarraway

>> They aren’t charging him in the death of the judge he killed?

Not important to the #s on the Left. He was a Conservative judge.


4 posted on 08/04/2012 7:01:09 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: sitetest
Minimum, life without parole in Super Max
5 posted on 08/04/2012 7:06:10 PM PDT by mongo141 (Revolution ver. 2.0, just a matter of when, not a matter of if!)
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To: mongo141
Dear mongo141,

“Minimum, life without parole in Super Max”

My guess is that would be the absolute maximum.

I'd be surprised if he pleaded guilty without a deal to avoid a sentence of death.


sitetest

6 posted on 08/04/2012 7:09:54 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: sitetest

“We’ll hang him right after the trial.”-Dean Martin in ROUGH NIGHT IN JERICO


7 posted on 08/04/2012 7:14:51 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Tyrannies demand immense sacrifices of their people to produce trifles.-Marquis de Custine)
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To: sitetest

“We’ll hang him right after the trial.”-Dean Martin in ROUGH NIGHT IN JERICHO.


8 posted on 08/04/2012 7:15:22 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Tyrannies demand immense sacrifices of their people to produce trifles.-Marquis de Custine)
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To: sitetest

Good. Be done with this jerk. Death penalty I hope.


9 posted on 08/04/2012 7:17:12 PM PDT by napscoordinator (GO TO CHIC-FIL-A 1 AUGUST FOR BREAKFAST, LUNCH OR DINNER (OR ALL))
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To: sitetest

Under Federal law, he cannot receive the FEDERAL death penalty, 18 U.S.C. 351 would not apply.

However, he still can be charged under capital murder in Arizona.


10 posted on 08/04/2012 7:18:42 PM PDT by Perdogg (Let's leave reading things in the Constitution that aren't there to liberals and Dems)
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To: sitetest
Liberal Democrat Pleads Guilty in Shooting Spree
11 posted on 08/04/2012 7:29:19 PM PDT by theDentist (FYBO/FUBO; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: Perdogg
Dear Perdogg,

“Under Federal law, he cannot receive the FEDERAL death penalty, 18 U.S.C. 351 would not apply.”

One wonders, then, what sort of deal has been worked out for Mr. Loughner. Perhaps it's been coordinated with state prosecutors to avoid a capital charge from the state of Arizona.


sitetest

12 posted on 08/04/2012 7:29:54 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: sitetest; nickcarraway; napscoordinator; Perdogg; mongo141

Here is a paragraph recently added to the story:

“Mr. Loughner is expected to agree to a life sentence under the plea deal, the official said.”


13 posted on 08/04/2012 7:42:54 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: sitetest; AuH2ORepublican

Maybe he could under 18 U.S.C. § 1111. I have never heard the federal govt charging someone with ordinary murder.


14 posted on 08/04/2012 7:43:28 PM PDT by Perdogg (Let's leave reading things in the Constitution that aren't there to liberals and Dems)
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To: sitetest

“Mr. Loughner is expected to agree to a life sentence under the plea deal, the official said.”

Damn it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We get to support him the rest of his natural life????? UGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


15 posted on 08/04/2012 7:44:17 PM PDT by napscoordinator (GO TO CHIC-FIL-A 1 AUGUST FOR BREAKFAST, LUNCH OR DINNER (OR ALL))
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To: sitetest

As long as he’s going to spend his life in jail, I want him walkin’ the green mile, knowing that some day the appeals will run out and he’ll have to go sit in Ole Sparky.

just damn....


16 posted on 08/04/2012 8:08:07 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: Perdogg

Why isn’t he eligible for the federal death penalty? He killed one federal official and attempted to kill another. Is it because the one that was killed was not acting in an official capacity and that Giffords who was in an official capacity (having a “congress on the corner” meeting) wasn’t killed?


17 posted on 08/04/2012 10:04:43 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: sitetest

“In February, the psychologist said Mr. Loughner, a diagnosed schizophrenic, remained incompetent to stand trial.”

There’s a high likelihood that the guilty plea will be a plea of guilty by reason of insanity.


18 posted on 08/04/2012 10:14:44 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: sitetest

I think life without parole in the GENERAL PRISON POPULATION....

would be acceptable...

but this silly looking PO runny S will not be in the general population.

he will be protected...so no deal. he needs to be fried.


19 posted on 08/05/2012 9:36:37 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: sitetest
The "Giffords Shooting"? Is that the one where multiple people not named Gabby Giffords lost their lives?
20 posted on 08/05/2012 12:21:44 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: catnipman

I don’t think that there is any such plea.

An acceptance of insanity by the court precludes guilt.


21 posted on 08/05/2012 7:14:10 PM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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Dear bill1952,

I don't think there's a plea of “guilty by reason of insanity,” but I did read the other day that in Arizona, pleas of not guilty by reason of insanity are not permitted.

There is a verdict of “guilty, but insane.” The upshot is the person convicted in this manner is committed to a mental hospital until such time, if it ever comes about, that he recovers from his insanity. At that time, he is sent to prison.


sitetest

22 posted on 08/06/2012 5:05:41 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: nickcarraway
"They aren’t charging him in the death of the judge he killed?" _________________

Maybe trial for killing the judge is held for a second trial in case things don't work out in the first. Also, shooting a judge makes the kind of crime different, doesn't it? I'm not sure.

23 posted on 08/07/2012 7:47:09 PM PDT by hummingbird (Breitbart and Spartacus: here, there, everywhere. Join them. Join us.)
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