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At least four shot at Sikh Temple, SWAT team helps people out (Oak Creek WI)
Milkwaukee Wisconsin JS Online ^ | August 5, 2012 | Mike Johnson

Posted on 08/05/2012 9:50:55 AM PDT by Pinkbell

Edited on 08/05/2012 10:46:48 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

At least four people were shot just after 10 a.m. Sunday at the Sikh Temple in Oak Creek, and a police SWAT team entered the building before noon and brought uninjured people out of the building at 7512 S. Howell Ave.

Among those who were shot was the president of the temple.

People were in the temple as early as 6:30 a.m. Sunday and many more were arriving for a service that was to begin about 11:30 a.m.

There were reports that children were taken to the building's basement after shots were fired.

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1 posted on 08/05/2012 9:51:02 AM PDT by Pinkbell
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To: Pinkbell

I thought Sikhs only carried knives.


2 posted on 08/05/2012 9:53:03 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Pinkbell

I’m sure there’s some MSM already salivating at the opportunity to blame this on some new Timothy, but I wouldn’t rule out the Amish just yet... While some ‘white’ people might have trouble picking these guys out from the bad guys, the bad guys have absolutely no problem going after Indians.


3 posted on 08/05/2012 9:54:12 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: Pinkbell

NBC: Oak Creek police, the Milwaukee County Sheriff’s Department and other law enforcement agencies have responded, the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel reported.

A witness told officers the shooter was a white male, with a heavy build, bald head and wearing a sleeveless T-shirt, Oak Creek Patch reported.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/05/13130110-several-people-reported-shot-at-sikh-temple-outside-milwaukee?lite


4 posted on 08/05/2012 9:54:40 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Pinkbell
Scanner Link

Large white male with two weapons NOT in custody.
5 posted on 08/05/2012 9:55:11 AM PDT by Daus
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To: Pinkbell

Commie ‘RAT political advisors will be all over this like stink on a cowpie. Something else to exploit for the election!!!


6 posted on 08/05/2012 9:55:18 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The NRA did not create James "The Joker" Holmes. Harvey Weinstein's Hollywood did.)
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To: Paladin2

Mutters might’ve mistaken them for Muzzies... when in fact they are one of the most lethal forces standing against Islam’s barbarism.


7 posted on 08/05/2012 9:55:44 AM PDT by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Let me guess, shooter thought they were muslim.


8 posted on 08/05/2012 9:56:40 AM PDT by Dysart (You didn't post that. Someone else made that happen.)
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To: James C. Bennett

*Nutters.


9 posted on 08/05/2012 9:57:06 AM PDT by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: Pinkbell

TROP or OWS ?


10 posted on 08/05/2012 9:57:40 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
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To: Paladin2
I thought Sikhs only carried knives

I think that there's a fair amount of historical animosity between Sikhs and Hindus.Don't know where,if anywhere,moslems might fit into that mosaic.

11 posted on 08/05/2012 9:57:45 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Word Is Out,Harry Reid's A Child Molester)
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To: Pinkbell

The shooting happened at about 10:40 a.m. at the Sikh Temple, on the 7500 block of South Howell Avenue in Oak Creek.

Witnesses told Tom Murray of TODAY’S TMJ4 that someone opened fire inside the temple.

As of 11:40 a.m., a public safety dispatcher said that there was no active shooter on the scene.  That shooter may be at a different location.

http://www.todaystmj4.com/news/local/165061026.html


12 posted on 08/05/2012 9:58:13 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Ouderkirk

Nobody in their right mind targets the Sikhs.


13 posted on 08/05/2012 9:58:52 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Dysart
Let me guess, shooter thought they were muslim.

Chances are all the shooter thought was that they're not like him.

14 posted on 08/05/2012 10:00:33 AM PDT by brewcrew (Life is tough. It's tougher if you're stupid. --John Wayne)
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To: Pinkbell
Just want to get in before the ignoramouses show up:

Sikhs are NOT muslims. Their religion emphasizes a personal relationship with God, with no intermediaries (i.e. no Mohammed) . It stresses self-discipline, and unlike Islam is not negative towards non-believers and is not a political system. I find it a lot closer to wester, judeo-christian beliefs than Islam.

I've known and worked closely with several Sikhs in my life, and they were all fine, upstanding human beings. You can read more about it here.

15 posted on 08/05/2012 10:01:09 AM PDT by Scutter
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To: James C. Bennett

“Mutters might’ve mistaken them for Muzzies...”

You’d really have to be blindingly ignorant to mistake Sikhs for Muslims. Doesn’t mean this guy was half a retard, but it’s almost beyond belief that someone, at this point, would make that mistake.


16 posted on 08/05/2012 10:01:21 AM PDT by risen_feenix
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To: cripplecreek

Darn right! We have few better allies against radical muslims.


17 posted on 08/05/2012 10:01:29 AM PDT by fuente
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

A witness told officers the shooter was a white male, with a heavy build, bald head and wearing a sleeveless T-shirt, Oak Creek Patch reported.


BillyBob,Joe Billy or Bubba. Guessing who the neo-nazi perp’s name is.


18 posted on 08/05/2012 10:02:25 AM PDT by Leep
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Witnesses told Tom Murray of TODAY’S TMJ4 that someone opened fire inside the temple.

I guess the big, white, bald-headed guy just walked in? How long was he in there, and did anyone confront him? After all, adult Sikh males usually wear a specific type of headwrap. A bald headed man would have stuck out like a sore thumb.

But I won't believe the 'bald-headed white guy' report until the story shakes out. Too many times those first reports are proven to be wildly wrong.

19 posted on 08/05/2012 10:02:46 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Daus
Large white male with two weapons NOT in custody.

White? Yikes! Looks like Osama will have to tear himself away from those fundraisers to visit another swing state that needs some fake tears.

20 posted on 08/05/2012 10:02:46 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Word Is Out,Harry Reid's A Child Molester)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Muslims hate Sikhs (who are a syncretist group).

However, unless this guy was a Chechen or something, it sounds to me like another white nutcase who saw them wearing turbans and thought they were Muslims. Remember a Sikh was killed and others were beaten after 9/11.

I don’t know why, because Muslims generally don’t wear anything that looks remotely like a Sikh turban.


21 posted on 08/05/2012 10:03:54 AM PDT by livius
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To: cripplecreek

What are the odds that this guy, when caught, turns out to be under some kind of psychiatric care or undiagnosed condition like the last two spree shooters? Of course the timing seems suspicious as well, given the upcoming elections and Democrats’ attempst to scale back conceal carry?


22 posted on 08/05/2012 10:04:10 AM PDT by creeping death
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To: Gay State Conservative

Sikhs were a community formed as a military response against Muslim rule in India and all the Sikh founders were / are Hindus, and Sikhs defended Hindu interests when they were threatened. Sikhism was recognized as a separate religion only recently.

A large proportion of the Indian military is lead by Sikhs.

The animosity you are referring to relates to a Pakistan-funded separatist movement which was quelled by Sikhs themselves.


23 posted on 08/05/2012 10:04:10 AM PDT by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: Pinkbell

Brian Ross is tweeting that he’s checking the rolls of the Wisconsin Tea Party...


24 posted on 08/05/2012 10:04:48 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Word Is Out,Harry Reid's A Child Molester)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

hey there are white muzzies..but just remember they can call on thier minions at anytime and the UN wants our guns.


25 posted on 08/05/2012 10:06:39 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: Pinkbell

We are getting reports that 20 to 30 people have been injured in a shooting before 11 a.m. Sunday at the Sikh Temple, 7512 S. Howell Ave., in Oak Creek.

Two shooters are possibly still inside with children as hostages, according to someone who sent a text message to a Journal Sentinel reporter.

http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/reports-of-people-shot-at-sikh-temple-in-oak-creek-qc6cgc0-165059506.html?ipad=y


26 posted on 08/05/2012 10:07:37 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: SuziQ

Sikh temples are open to all and most of the visitors are typically Hindus and Westerners, neither of whom have any specific dress code.


27 posted on 08/05/2012 10:08:02 AM PDT by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: cripplecreek

I work with a Sikh and he is the most peaceful guy. He doesn’t hate anyone. He does not like Muslims because of the problems they cause but he does not hate Hindus at all. Prayers for the Sikh community.


28 posted on 08/05/2012 10:08:02 AM PDT by crazydad (-` sd)
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To: Pinkbell

There are reports that the head priest was locked inside a restroom with a cell phone and said there was as many as 30 victims in temple. 


29 posted on 08/05/2012 10:08:29 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Pinkbell

Prayers to all that are injured. Please don’t let the perp be a “Bubba”. The press will have a field day with that.


30 posted on 08/05/2012 10:08:58 AM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: risen_feenix

Sikhs are mistaken for Muzzies quite often, and there have been several fatalities due to this confusion.


31 posted on 08/05/2012 10:12:05 AM PDT by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: Pinkbell

UPDATE per original link:

We are getting reports that 20 to 30 people have been injured in a shooting before 11 a.m. Sunday at the Sikh Temple, 7512 S. Howell Ave., in Oak Creek.

Two shooters are possibly still inside with children as hostages, according to someone who sent a text message to a Journal Sentinel reporter.

Flight for Life has been called.

Oak Creek police are not giving out any information at this point.

Oak Creek police, the Milwaukee County Sheriff’s Department and other law enforcement agencies have responded.

There are reports that the head priest was locked inside a restroom with a cell phone and said there was as many as 30 victims in temple.

As of about noon, the Milwaukee County Medical Examiner’s Office said it had not been called to the scene.

Meanwhile, Brookfield police officers were dispatched to the Sikh Temple at 3675 N. Calhoun Road as a precaution in the aftermath of the Oak Creek shooting.

At least three squads were at the temple in Waukesha County.

About 50 people were at the Brookfield temple for a morning service and many of them went outside after they learned of the shooting in Oak Creek.

We will update frequently.


32 posted on 08/05/2012 10:12:25 AM PDT by Pinkbell
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To: Pinkbell

WISN 12 News reporter Abe Lubetkin is on the scene, and people in the area told him that people remain inside the building and are hiding.  The people inside believe that a gunman may still be inside the building.


33 posted on 08/05/2012 10:14:10 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: James C. Bennett
I thought it was Sikhs who assassinated Indira Gandhi.Looks like I'm wrong.Guess I'll have to pay closer attention in future.
34 posted on 08/05/2012 10:14:10 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Word Is Out,Harry Reid's A Child Molester)
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To: crazydad
Prayers for the Sikh community.

Amen! Did it have to get to 28 posts before prayer was called? :-(

35 posted on 08/05/2012 10:14:24 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: creeping death
My thoughts exactly. After Aurora is this the next asset being ‘activated’ by his handlers. The more BHO fears November the more of these events are going to occur and they will escalate in level of violence and number of casualties.
36 posted on 08/05/2012 10:14:35 AM PDT by robowombat
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To: Pinkbell

CNN providing live coverage.


37 posted on 08/05/2012 10:14:35 AM PDT by Pinkbell
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To: Pinkbell

Milwaukee County Fire reports 8 victims

Scanners links:

http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?mid=47

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Per local TV web pages, shooter may yet be unidentified.


38 posted on 08/05/2012 10:14:59 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Pinkbell

TMJ4 TV reports

As of 12:10 p.m., JSOnline reported at least 20 people who were shot, and shooters possibly inside as hostages.


39 posted on 08/05/2012 10:16:37 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Pinkbell

WISN 12 News spoke to a man whose father was inside during the shooting.  He was told by police that 20-25 people may have been shot inside.  The man also said his mother is hiding inside as she believes the gunman is still inside.

The man said that the priest picked up his father’s cell phone and called him, saying many people were shot and that ambulances were needed at the temple.


40 posted on 08/05/2012 10:19:11 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: crazydad
"Prayers for the Sikh community. "

I agree...prayers are needed.

41 posted on 08/05/2012 10:19:51 AM PDT by blam
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To: COBOL2Java

No kidding. My coworker and friend is a great guy and the Sikhs i have met in my life have been kind and gentle people. They want to live the American dream.


42 posted on 08/05/2012 10:20:43 AM PDT by crazydad (-` sd)
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To: TomGuy

Prayers for everybody, but especially those poor hostages and their families .


43 posted on 08/05/2012 10:21:31 AM PDT by livius
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To: Pinkbell

Okay, I’ll say it just to get it out there.

Manchurian Candidate...groomed in DC.

Gun Control working under the radar.


44 posted on 08/05/2012 10:24:40 AM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: Pinkbell

Police Scanner just told dispatch to contact TV stations and tell them to TURN OFF THEIR DAMN LIVE FEEDS of the scene.


45 posted on 08/05/2012 10:24:47 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Daus

I just heard an officer request if suspect info was available and dispatcher said Negative. The white guy thing could be early speculation as usual. Also, they’re going to ask Channel 12 to cut their helicopter feed.


46 posted on 08/05/2012 10:25:11 AM PDT by creeping death
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To: creeping death

Yeah, the idiots showed the armored vehicles moving into place.


47 posted on 08/05/2012 10:28:06 AM PDT by Daus
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To: Gay State Conservative

No, you are right about the assassination. India Gandhi ordered the Indian military into the Golden Temple to expunge the Pakistan-supported militants who has holed themselves into the Sikh shrine. The man who lead this campaign to rid the temple of the militants was Sikh Indian military officer. Indira Gandhi’s body guard, a Sikh, assassinated her for ordering the military action which damaged the facade of the shrine.

The Golden Temple is the most important shrine to Sikhs.


48 posted on 08/05/2012 10:28:24 AM PDT by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: Pinkbell

WISN12 TV live stream:

http://livewire.wisn.com/Event/Oak_Creek_Temple_Shooting


49 posted on 08/05/2012 10:29:17 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Pinkbell

Sikhs are neither Muslims nor from the Middle East. Sikhism is a religion of India. The roots of Sikhism lie in Punjab (India). Sikhs make up 60% to 70% of the total population of Punjab, which is the only region in the world where Sikhs are in the majority.

quote from Wikipedia


50 posted on 08/05/2012 10:29:51 AM PDT by Wisconsinlady ("When injustice becomes law, then resistance becomes duty." Thomas Jefferson)
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