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At least four shot at Sikh Temple, SWAT team helps people out (Oak Creek WI)
Milkwaukee Wisconsin JS Online ^ | August 5, 2012 | Mike Johnson

Posted on 08/05/2012 9:50:55 AM PDT by Pinkbell

Edited on 08/05/2012 10:46:48 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: 3Fingas

Yep and the two will turn out to be John Doe #1 and #2, and it will all be blamed on the “down” shooter.


151 posted on 08/05/2012 11:43:19 AM PDT by Chipper (You can't kill an Obamazombie by destroying the brain...they didn't have one to begin with.)
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To: concerned about politics

Thanks for the info.


152 posted on 08/05/2012 11:43:19 AM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: risen_feenix

BTW, folks, while I imagine it’s “fun” to speculate on who the shooter might be, the reality is we just don’t have much solid evidence, just hearsay. The only reliable, consistent report I’ve heard is a bald, bulky white male.

Lets settle down and wait for facts coming through. People are still believing that there was a demand for hamburgers.

And we need to face the fact that there’s a strong chance that it was some dumb neo-nazi who either just hated light brown people, or couldn’t figure out how to Google the term “Sikh” and thought he was taking down Muslims.


153 posted on 08/05/2012 11:43:41 AM PDT by risen_feenix
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To: Secret Agent Man

Totally agree. It is going to be Islamists shooters. A targeted operation. The reports of shooters being ‘bald’ also a dead giveaway.


154 posted on 08/05/2012 11:43:41 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR!)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Not necessarily. I think it will probably turn out to be aryan brotherhood types, but the fact that there were apparently several of them (from what we know now) could also mean Russian Islamists. Ths is their modus operandi.


155 posted on 08/05/2012 11:45:08 AM PDT by livius
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As of 11:39 Pacific, the only consistent information is that there was one shooter who was taken down by a police officer. There are either 3 or 4 people shot, though no reports of fatalities.

There is conflicting information as to whether or not there may be an additional shooter(s) inside the temple. My guess is there are not. More likely, given that it’s a 17,000 sq ft bldg and there are at least dozens of terrified temple members hiding in closets, bathrooms, basement and wherever, it’s going to take law enforcement an enormous amount of time to sweep, clear and secure the bldg.

I could be wrong, but based on not seeing any snipers stationed on the roof or perimeter of the bldg, and given that the area surrounding the building hasn’t been evacuated, my guess is the on-scene law enforcement doesn’t believe there’s any further danger, there are no hostages, and there are no additional shooters.

We don’t know if the motivation of the shooter was personal, political, religious, or just a random psycho guy. My guess is the latter, but we’ll know soon enough.


156 posted on 08/05/2012 11:45:51 AM PDT by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: risen_feenix

Neo nazi’s are in simpatico with Islamists. That makes no sense that it would be neo nazi.


157 posted on 08/05/2012 11:45:51 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR!)
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To: penelopesire

It was a hit job. going after that visiting high-level sikh priest.

I feel better now that BATFE is going to be on site shortly to drive tanks through the building and burn it to the ground. God what would we do without F-Troop?


158 posted on 08/05/2012 11:47:10 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: snippy_about_it

Thanks. Yeah, let’s invite Obama The Oppressive to weigh in here/NOT.


159 posted on 08/05/2012 11:47:52 AM PDT by Dysart (You didn't post that. Someone else made that happen.)
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To: penelopesire

Police cheif on Fox News:

So far 7 dead, including the shooter. So 6 innocents dead.

So far.


160 posted on 08/05/2012 11:47:52 AM PDT by risen_feenix
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To: lonevoice

The only problem with the lone shooter theory is that more and more fire trucks are coming in and the terrorist joint task force has been called in along with FBI and ATF.


161 posted on 08/05/2012 11:49:51 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR!)
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To: concerned about politics

I think he’s criticizing broad Western liberalism in his quote, not specifically modern leftist liberalism. He’s saying that the West is reluctant — too reluctant — to fight for its democratic ideals, because Westerners believe they are self-evident and inevitable. He’s saying we need to be more willing to fight. And I’d almost bet that if we could see the whole quote we’d see he means fighting external enemies like radical Islam.

I agree they sound like thugs, and fat white bald guys sounds like Bubbas. What if this is revenge for their kid getting beat up by a Sikh kid or something?

I sure hope that’s not the case. I sure hope it turns out to be Muslims victimizing their old enemies the Sikhs. The fact that it was timed to coincide with the visiting priest — a guy who very likely sees radical Islam as a threat to be fought — makes me think the latter is more likely.


162 posted on 08/05/2012 11:49:51 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Pinkbell

at least seven dead (4 inside & 3 outside), including one shooter outside.

Police officer, 20 year veteran is in surgery.
another wounded at hospital, but hospital says they have three.

more emergency vehicles arrriving, but they now believe there was likely only one shooter.


163 posted on 08/05/2012 11:50:44 AM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: penelopesire

SOP


164 posted on 08/05/2012 11:51:49 AM PDT by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: lonevoice

7 dead on scene including shooter - more at hospital.


165 posted on 08/05/2012 11:52:51 AM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Yep..if anybody can screw up this operation it will be the ATF. 8 people dead so far.

God please be with these poor people.


166 posted on 08/05/2012 11:53:26 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR!)
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To: penelopesire

Where does it say police have to tell media or anyone else the truth as to what they are doing? Disinformation on purpose.


167 posted on 08/05/2012 11:53:35 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

We are getting reports that 20 to 30 people have been injured in a shooting before 11 a.m.


20 to 30 INJURED and no one killed?

What was he shooting? A .144 pellet gun?


168 posted on 08/05/2012 11:55:12 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: Brown Deer

Yes, just heard the press statement. Also that they believe at this point there was only one shooter. I’m thinking it’s going to take them many hours to find everyone hiding in the building, identify them, debrief them, take witness statements, etc.


169 posted on 08/05/2012 11:55:36 AM PDT by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: Pinkbell

..... Just watched “Smokin’ Aces 2: Assassins’ Ball” last night and am left wondering about the origins and intent of this incident.


170 posted on 08/05/2012 11:55:42 AM PDT by R_Kangel ( "A Nation of Sheep ..... Will Beget ..... a Nation Ruled by Wolves.")
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To: Secret Agent Man

CNN still showing aerial shots even after police asked them not to. Go figure.


171 posted on 08/05/2012 11:57:35 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR!)
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To: Oldexpat

Latest Pd report 7 dead including the shooter. Three in hospital include officer who was in a shoot out with the perpetrator .


172 posted on 08/05/2012 11:58:29 AM PDT by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right)
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To: concerned about politics

I had a look over at DU - idiots.


173 posted on 08/05/2012 11:58:45 AM PDT by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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To: penelopesire

Says “Earlier”


174 posted on 08/05/2012 11:59:04 AM PDT by Chipper (You can't kill an Obamazombie by destroying the brain...they didn't have one to begin with.)
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To: Pinkbell

You can be sure Present Zero’s handlers have him gagged and the TOTUS triple-strapped to his face.

(Otherwise: “This is a stupid thing carried out by individuals who could not look like my sons, but I hope to have a beer with everyone soon and ....... “)


175 posted on 08/05/2012 11:59:13 AM PDT by tumblindice (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: DH
20 to 30 INJURED and no one killed?

The PIO just reported 7 dead so far.

176 posted on 08/05/2012 11:59:13 AM PDT by brewcrew (Life is tough. It's tougher if you're stupid. --John Wayne)
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To: risen_feenix

>You’d really have to be blindingly ignorant to mistake Sikhs for Muslims.<

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Don’t be so condescending — we have plenty of people in this country who think that islam is a ROP and that Obama is an upstanding Christian.


177 posted on 08/05/2012 12:01:17 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: Chipper

Just saw that but it still should not matter. They should not be showing any of those shots after being asked not to.imho.


178 posted on 08/05/2012 12:01:54 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR!)
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To: TomGuy

I heard that as well as a request that news copters stay away. Good! Let LEO’s do what they have to do.

Prayers up for the victims and their families!

In a way...oh I may get flamed for this but... it seems like that attack on an Amish school a few years ago.

Of the few Sikhs I have encountered they all seemed like peaceful people except for the ghurkas that could be used anytime for defense. Kinda like open/ccw.


179 posted on 08/05/2012 12:02:24 PM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt the Constitution together as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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To: Pinkbell

Cue the gun control nuts in 3...2...1....


180 posted on 08/05/2012 12:03:57 PM PDT by Tzimisce (THIS SUCKS)
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To: penelopesire
CNN still showing aerial shots even after police asked them not to. Go figure.

It's CNN.

Maybe, just maybe, it's not live camera feed.

181 posted on 08/05/2012 12:03:57 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1293 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...)
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To: null and void

Boy the CNN reporter on the ground sounds flaming gay.


182 posted on 08/05/2012 12:06:19 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR!)
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To: Winstons Julia

A lot of violent rhetoric came out of that city from Union thug bosses not so long ago.

Dem Rep to unions: “Time to get ‘bloody”

“Nothing wrong with throwing a coffee cup at someone if you’re doing it for human rights.”

Then there was James Hoffa’s violent talk 11 months ago to the day


183 posted on 08/05/2012 12:06:55 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: tsowellfan

Ya gotta love it.......most people despise CNN, but they are at least covering this tragedy...FAUX news on the otherhand is showing re-runs of Journal Editorial Report......good grief!


184 posted on 08/05/2012 12:12:00 PM PDT by MagUSNRET
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To: penelopesire

CNN’s claiming it’s “earlier videotape and not live”. I just joined the live TV coverage at 3:05pm EST, so I don’t remember what had been aired before.


185 posted on 08/05/2012 12:16:09 PM PDT by carriage_hill (Harry Reid [PERVERT-NV] has Vickie-the-goat in lingerie and stiletto heels, tied-up in his office.)
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To: risen_feenix
"FoxNews reporting ATF on the way."

Are they looking for Holder's weapons?

186 posted on 08/05/2012 12:17:09 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: UB355

Hmm, 7 dead and a lone shooter, probably a white guy. And I guess the hamburgers thing was bogus.

Sounding more like a Bubba or a psycho.


187 posted on 08/05/2012 12:18:12 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Pinkbell
Milwaukee police scanner link.

http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?action=wp&feedId=9840

188 posted on 08/05/2012 12:19:43 PM PDT by fso301
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To: carriage_hill

Thanks. I am watching it but listening to police scanner. The CNN reporters hack me off most of the time lol.


189 posted on 08/05/2012 12:21:34 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR!)
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To: Secret Agent Man

A very good friend of mine is from Afghanistan. Been here since the Russian invaision. His family was royalty and he escaped...not so much the rest of his family. He is an American citizen. Great guy.

But the first time I met him I thought he was...Mexican, LOL!

I started speaking espanol and he responded. He is fluent in several languages. Yo habla espanol muy poco...muy poco!

It was embarassing.


190 posted on 08/05/2012 12:22:04 PM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt the Constitution together as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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To: Yardstick

The three hundred hamburgers were ordered by the Fire department canteen to feed the first responders. There were two full MCI alarms on the fire side and massive police response.


192 posted on 08/05/2012 12:25:06 PM PDT by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right)
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To: MagUSNRET

Babbling Bobble Head Boobs.

Speculating on so many things, they’ve already skewed the story into 3+ different scenarios, which hasn’t even begun to be factually told, and probably won’t be for some time, until the LEOs put all the many pieces together.

Just “filling” air time.


193 posted on 08/05/2012 12:26:34 PM PDT by carriage_hill (Harry Reid [PERVERT-NV] has Vickie-the-goat in lingerie and stiletto heels, tied-up in his office.)
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To: DH
20 to 30 INJURED and no one killed?

SEVEN DEAD on the scene, including the shooter!

What was he shooting? A .144 pellet gun?

That hasn't been reported yet.
194 posted on 08/05/2012 12:27:42 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: concerned about politics

The food was ordered by the Fire Department canteen to feed first responders.


195 posted on 08/05/2012 12:27:42 PM PDT by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right)
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To: Kleon

“So are these the “good” Muslims?”

So there ARE idiots on FR who don’t know the difference between and Sikh and a Muslim.

How’ bout that.


196 posted on 08/05/2012 12:28:22 PM PDT by risen_feenix
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To: Kleon

you are an ASS!


197 posted on 08/05/2012 12:28:58 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Kleon

As Clinton would say, “It depends on what your definition of “good”, is.”


198 posted on 08/05/2012 12:29:12 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: UB355

Okay, that makes sense.


199 posted on 08/05/2012 12:30:12 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Secret Agent Man

To clarify I thought he was referring to the shooter, who I believe was muslim, NOT the Sikhs.


200 posted on 08/05/2012 12:30:32 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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