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Rumsfeld: Israel shouldn't tell the US before striking Iran
Israel Hayom ^ | 8/5/12 | Eli Leon and Israel Hayom Staff

Posted on 08/05/2012 1:02:52 PM PDT by BCrago66

Former U.S. defense secretary tells Fox News that international sanctions have had no impact on the Iranian regime • Given leaks at White House, Rumsfeld says he would not notify U.S. of Iran plans if he were in the Israeli government.

(Excerpt) Read more at israelhayom.com ...


TOPICS: Israel; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iran; israel; russia; waronterror
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1 posted on 08/05/2012 1:02:56 PM PDT by BCrago66
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To: BCrago66

The article is pretty short, but if you click the link, there’s an associated 16 minute video interview of Rumsfeld.


2 posted on 08/05/2012 1:05:11 PM PDT by BCrago66
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To: BCrago66

Given that the US military will be picking up the pieces and paying in blood and treasure for any attack, I think they damn well should inform us.


3 posted on 08/05/2012 1:05:41 PM PDT by Natufian (t)
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To: BCrago66

Israel might not have any choice. Depending on the various agreements between the two countries, Israel might have to tell us when they are going to attack another country. That is what happens when you take our welfare money. What Israel should do is stop taking our aid so they can be independent and do what they want. STOP TAKING OUR AID ISRAEL AND YOU WILL BE BETTER OFF!!!


4 posted on 08/05/2012 1:12:54 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Attention Republican National Convention voters....Santorum/Bachmann 2012! Dump liberal Romney NOW!)
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To: BCrago66

We give Israel over $3 billion a year in military aid.

They better inform us about what they are going to do.


5 posted on 08/05/2012 1:13:42 PM PDT by moonshot925
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To: Natufian

I think what he may be saying is that we won’t take Iran out with this administration in office; Iran needs to be taken out, and this administration would likely warn them to torpedo the mission rather than help it happen.


6 posted on 08/05/2012 1:14:38 PM PDT by Lakeshark (I don't care for Mitt; the alternative is unthinkable)
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To: BCrago66

Actually, I think Israel would be well advised to let the US administration *think* they were just about to attack Iran, to see what Oboloney would do.

Definitely keep an eye out to see if someone in the administration would send a message to Iran or other nations; or if Obama would try to use the US military to interfere with the attack.

Almost anything he did, or didn’t do, would be extremely vital to know, strategically. And after a few hours they could call Obama back to say they had to postpone the attack for [insert b.s. reason here].


7 posted on 08/05/2012 1:16:22 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Natufian

Yeah, they should just lie down and die. Is that what you mean?


8 posted on 08/05/2012 1:19:04 PM PDT by Dogbert41 ("...The people of Jerusalem are strong, because the Lord Almighty is their God" Zech. 12:5)
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To: Lakeshark

I agree that’s a genuine worry but my priority is the well being of members of the US military.


9 posted on 08/05/2012 1:19:21 PM PDT by Natufian (t)
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To: Natufian

“Given that the US military will be picking up the pieces and paying in blood and treasure for any attack, I think they damn well should inform us.”

I think it’s unlikely that Israel will overtly attack Iran while Obama is in office. Obama has shown every indication that he’d punish Israel and probably help, at least covertly, Iran. I think that Israel has focused all its energies on collapsing the Iranian regime from within. They will continue in that direction until the moment before they feel they have no other option than to strike at an actual nuclear weapon that is ready on the launch pad.

Also, I believe that Iran supplies 20% of the world’s oil. Any attack would necessarily stop that supply as that is the only target available to the Israelis. The nuclear facilities are too spread out and too deeply buried and protected for an attack on the facilities to have any real effect. That leaves only the oil. Such an attack would cause world-wide starvation and economic collapse. Israel does not want to be the “cause” of that.


10 posted on 08/05/2012 1:19:49 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: BCrago66

The Israeli government would be wise to listen. Any heads up given to the current U.S. administration would be instantly forwarded to the iranians.

obama and co. would happily betray Israel to the muslim horde.


11 posted on 08/05/2012 1:19:55 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (With (R)epublicans like these, who needs (D)emocrats?)
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To: Natufian

The Obamists can not be trusted to keep a secret, so I sympathize with Rumsfeld’s remark. But any open attack will lead to open war and we will be in it up to our elbows like it or not. So while they may not want to give up every detail, for their own sake they need to give us a heads up, time to get our own chess pieces into position.

Though, I get the impression we are already moving pieces into position.

I’m of the opinion that war is coming regardless. The nutcases in Iran are going to trigger it if the Israelis don’t do it first. So, regardless, we need to be preparing for what is most assuredly coming and probably soon.


12 posted on 08/05/2012 1:20:18 PM PDT by marron
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To: Dogbert41

Yeah, members of the US military should be put in harms way. Is that what you mean?


13 posted on 08/05/2012 1:21:35 PM PDT by Natufian (t)
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To: marron

Agree. A surprise attack on Iran that surprises us as well would be potentially disastrous.


14 posted on 08/05/2012 1:23:05 PM PDT by Natufian (t)
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To: Gen.Blather

Iran produces 4.8% of the world’s oil. Not 20%.


15 posted on 08/05/2012 1:23:58 PM PDT by moonshot925
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To: Natufian
I understand. Let's just say if they get their nukes, a whole lot more of the US military (not to mention US civilians) will likely get destroyed than collateral damage from Israel taking their nuke program out.

A conundrum, and likely the thinking of the ex SecDef.

16 posted on 08/05/2012 1:26:17 PM PDT by Lakeshark (I don't care for Mitt; the alternative is unthinkable)
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To: napscoordinator

I don’t think Israel is taking much of our damn money, at least not in the form of outright grants (unlike, e.g., Egypt & Pakistan.) These are loans, and Israel never defaults. Additionally, the military cooperation between the USA and Israel is a two-way street. Israel provides valuable intelligence & other assistance.


17 posted on 08/05/2012 1:29:47 PM PDT by BCrago66
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To: Lakeshark

A good point well made. I’m not convinced that the IDF has the capability to do the job properly on their own. A half assed attack that excludes us could make the entire situation a lot more dangerous.

It is a difficult situation, no doubt about it.


18 posted on 08/05/2012 1:31:57 PM PDT by Natufian (t)
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To: Natufian

I’m actually of the opinion that a successful attack on Iran is not possible without our complicity. We’re the ones with air bases on three sides and fleets sitting just off shore. A successful attack on their nuclear facilities would require a sustained air campaign that I don’t believe Israel is capable of maintaining from such a distance.

We’re the ones who can break an Iranian blockade of the Gulf and we’re the ones that can blockade Iranian ports, which is the real “nuclear” option, since they live by their oil exports and gasoline imports.

Israel keeps dropping hints but I don’t think it will happen without us. I’m not entirely convinced Obama wouldn’t launch for his own reasons.


19 posted on 08/05/2012 1:33:09 PM PDT by marron
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To: BCrago66; nuconvert; FARS; Jeff Head; Squantos; ntnychik

ATTACKING IRAN--SURE, TELL HIM--THE NEXT DAY

20 posted on 08/05/2012 1:33:28 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Fakistan)
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